Panic mode to mobilize and come out in protest.
It hasn’t quite hit them personally as yet.

SS benefits late or worse, food shortages and inflation on top of massive unemployment. Gonna be a domino effect, I think

The question is how much will we take until it finally stops. You know it will stop. Ya just don't know when. I have this feeling this one isn't going to last 4 years.

Massive protests, then we will see if the military is willing to kill Americans citizens in Trump's name.

Hot tempers and hotter temperatures are a volatile combo.

this budget passes with major cuts to Medicaid, SNAP and a 4.5 trillion dollar tax cut to the richest, there will be hell to pay. Already the GOP House Representatives that are doing townhalls with their constituents are on record denying that they were going to vote for this bill.
Soon, this will be more than the cost of eggs, this will be about survival.

After all,consider how much less cholesterol intake!
And with reduced Medicare/Medicaid benefits ,be glad we are looking out for you.

Much of his Maga base continues to make excuses for him. For them to see and judge him objectively will take a lot more time if ever.

But the damage is just starting.

Because that's exactly what's going on.

All of the inexplicable behavior of Trump and Musk can be explained by the premise, "They literally want to destroy the country."

They believe that they will get richer by bankrupting all of us.

for not giving him the respect he thinks he deserves.

He lost an election. Imagine that!

When will we start being charged for the air we breathe?

... that respirators are required to get a breath of clean air. And that ain't far off; it's already true in third world countries that have to pick through our trash to survive.

misinformation and lies. Fox is the obvious one, but it occurs on other outlets also when they present "both sides".

There is no "both sides" who invaded Ukraine, and when they present a view that pushes that distortion it creates ambiguity among the many ignorant people who live in a bubble that it is a "legitimate point".

In some respects it is even worse because it entertains the issue as actually debatable, WHEN IT IS NOT.

as this propaganda is too deep- 4 decades in the making. Always ignored by liberals and democrats in urban areas. Never listening to those of us in the sciences working in rural areas.

is leave it to Tr**p to topple them.

This is equivalent to his bankrupy's and all his failures.

LTDI = Let Tr**p Do It

It is only a matter of time that he'll take himself out.

My prediction? The total destruction has to come from within the GOP. Lisa Murkowski understands it. Hey, it's a beginning.

But until we get 10 or more GOP members to stop him, nothing will change for the better. It will continue to get worse. Especially with his lawless executive orders.

Aligning with North Korea and Russia, against many decades of policy bares the debt Trump owes, and his fealty to Putin.

Hard to spin this, however they try, when combined with the destruction of jobs and services.

Powerful sociopaths want to "have it all" but it's overreach to have both of these.

There are those times when a swollen ego that feels no sympathetic pain in others for their actions is its own undoing, that even the propaganda machine can't whitewash.

Because it hits home. Try buying eggs without a job, or hiding from the gazpacho police.

In our government or politics

That being said I'm not sure a majority of Americans are happy with all the chaos. Let's see what happens if inflation doesn't abate, a recession ensues, and things still are expensive and jobs are scarce.

US voters couldn't be bothered to vote against an actual authoritarian Strong Leader who wouldn't commit to accepting the election results if he lost.
About one third don't really care one way or the other as long as they get their hamberders and sportsball. They don't know where we are now, how we got here, or how we can get out of this mess. And they don't really care.

But when the end product of the digestive process hits the oscillating electrical appliance and their hamberders and sportsball are interrupted they may become engaged enough to participate in the electoral process.
They will be largely ignorant of what has happened. Let's hope that the Democratic leadership has a vigorous educational program to counter the firehose of lies and misinformation that the Republicans will spew.

... your variation on the proverbial substance hitting the fan! Good one!

it will be a full blown depression. This whole trump admin is repeating all the errors of the 1930's. Why wouldn't he repeat the Great Depression? Tens of thousands of Americans out of work (and the least), food at an all time cost, energy at an all time high cost. We'll have the 30's bread lines and daywork will be all that's available. The Hoovervilles will make a comeback. Musk is our Herbert Hoover... thinking isolation and negligent government is the way to prosperity. Who will be our FDR? Only when we can identify this person, IMO, will be able to be mobilized as a force to be reckoned with. JMO.

everything that they are doing is to create a depression.

An the Supreme Court is in on the gig.

In addition, I had a real problem with what they did teach when I was in school a million years ago (lol). Not so much WHAT they taught or didn't teach, but they the entire emphasis was on dates and places instead of understanding reasons, context, conflicts, etc. of the history.

Now that I'm older, and especially after reading some of the history course lessons from the college, I'm totally enamored with history and she sociocultural and political implications in situations. This is lost on our kids, I'm afraid. Schools have been too afraid to teach real history. I never heard about the Tulsa "riots" until I learned about it here on DU. And I lived and went to school in Kansas!

To Paraphrase: Ignore the past and why it happened, and be doomed to repeat it.

I think instead of the cutesy names trump gets called on the 'Net, someone ought to start a real movement to name him "Mr Hoover". Even if rump doesn't know what that's about, he'll be flattered someone called him "mister" and then when the R's (who WILL remember Hoover) tell him what it truly means, he'll blow his top!

I know of three young men born in 1986 that are resigned to the fact that they will never have a decent paying job in a long long time. One of them is my son, an IT Security Tech, worth $90,000-125,000. He has been looking for a job since November. Since January 20th, the opportunities are drying up. The other two are high school friends of my sons. One works at a video game company under the Sony umbrella. The company has been warned that shutting down in imminent. The independent small video game companies are gone, the video game industry is collapsing. The other friend of my son is retired army, but is now working for the federal government as a property manager. He is waiting for his email from the muskrat. That is three people I know personally whose lives will be destroyed by Krasnov - the orange magat and the muskrat. I am sure there are many many more....

We just keep waiting for the hammer to fall on them. Daughter doesn't think being female is DEI. Told her to think hard about that and read what's happening to women in everything from companies to high level military positions.

Our closest friends are a couple... one who worked with me when I was on post (and is still there for now), and another who works for the IRS. So far, they still have their jobs but they have no idea for how long or how the work they do (which is highly specialized) will be done if cuts hit their departments.

Also found out the administration has cut the CMS/LMS contract we had. That was our learning center for the military officers... Active Duty, Reserve, and National Guard. Military can't go Open Source, but damned they're looking to move down to Moodle. Moodle won't handle the kinds of online tests we created, tho... and it IS Open Source! They're looking at throwing a web page up on Sharepoint and letting the students download instruction material from there... and maybe assign only essays as tests. But before we went this LMS plagiarism was really bad when they did essays. And who's going to read all those? There won't be enough teachers. This is a dire hollowing out of the military war colleges. IMO, the military will end up fighting two types of wars at the same time... the usual war against an outside aggressor(s)... Russia and China... and a covert, counter warfare model against Americans, themselves. The military has not been taught to do this before. One of these at a time, yes... but both at the same time? And while we're in an economic depression? I mean...if you can bankrupt casinos, you will surely bankrupt a country.

Musk, trump, vance, stephen miller, and the others should be taken out back of the white house, drawn and quartered and then hung as a warning against treason.

Does that convey a message?

Wow.

my daughter, not so much. She's so much like her father (that I divorced 40 years ago). In a lot of ways, she's like trump. She inherited my mother's narcissistic, manipulative nature and is completely a transactional person. For example, she bought a house I told her I recommend her to think hard about before signing the paperwork. She had to have both hers and my grandson's income in order to qualify, and he's co-owner now. It's caused all kinds of hassle because she's insisting HE pay her... for what I'm not sure. She's basically thrown out both boys and, while they're old enough to be on their own, emotionally even I can tell they're not ready. But she has a new boyfriend and is living with him. The "kids" are just in the way.

I raised this child on the old "Our Bodies" book from the 60/70's. Nothing I tried to teach seemed to "take." Her father has money, so he's much favored in her view (although she can only borrow money from him... and repay it with interest). My family has always just seen what one of us needs and passes on something we've got to fill the need. No money, no hassles, no bartering. Family takes care of family. And that's going to an important phrase to remember as we get further into trumps reign.

Talk about being disappointed!!! I've been telling my daughter since she moved here she should update and send out her resume for overseas employment. She just always thought I was batty. You know... even at 49, the child still doesn't think Mom knows anything! (LOL)

I've got the tech background, experience, both narrow and wide-ranging, but at 69, no one's going to hire me.

At first, I noticed a lot of right wingers expressing dismay with some of these actions, including the incident on Friday, but they’re sucked right back in within hours. I’ve been noticing this for years, they have their own opinion until someone tells them what it should be. It used to be after Limbaugh gave them their talking points and now it’s Piss Wig.

They want to be told what to do and think. All they care about is making the right people upset. They’re sadistic, mindless people.

They’re never going to get it.

This is going to end poorly.

where the hodden Hispanics USED to hang out, looking for work, and some untreated illnesses are just short of KoolAid.

Too bad they all have guns. You don't aim well in a faint.

I got to feel what it'll be like when my hubs fell for a scam and gave the scammers every penny in our bank account. We had no money for a month, the bills were coming in, there was very little food in the house, and we were basically living on the good intentions of friends. I never want to experience that again. As a young person with a little child, I hit hard patches... including one time when we lived in the car. But at nearly 70 for one of us and over 70 for the other, there's not a damned thing we can do to bring ourselves out of that kind of a situation, especially with me being disabled and hubby already having had 3 heart attacks. It scares me to death... literally.

I couldn't believe it when musk called SS a Ponzi scheme. Does he not know how insurance works? Or is he so rich he just pays cash if something breaks in his car, in his home, in his health, in his life? The r's have never accepted SS as a retirement insurance policy because it keeps them from taking the money and giving it to their rich donors. I wish more than anything both trump and musk could crash and burn bad... and maybe learn a thing or two from it. But that's not going to happen. People as evil as them just keep on keeping on. Heaven is closed to them, and Hell doesn't want them.

For the rest of us, it'll be so many early deaths it'll be reminiscent of the Morgue trucks in the early days of Covid.

In an esoteric sense, they are masters of temporal power - old souls who have become so distorted that nothing satisfies them but squeezing out the uttermost blood from their prey. Blood sacrifice.

I believe that Trump-Bannon-Miller are the personification of the power of chaos - Leviathan the sea beast.

Thiel-Vance, Bezos, Musk and the rest of the billionaire parasites are the personification of tyranny - Behemoth, the bronze bull. You will note that this idol exists as we speak on Wall Street and has since it mysteriously appeared there one morning in 1989. It is the idol America has worshipped since then and into this century. A few people whose lust for economic and temporal power has made our entire system into a pump funneling money from the treasury into their already bulging pockets.

Then we have Zuck, Musk, Bezos and Vought (the guy who wrote Project 2025 and said the 'coup' would be bloodless IF the left lets it be. They are the monsters of distraction, the night bird who cries in desolate places. This is Wall-Street profit-biased media reporting, talk radio and social media trolls who have rendered most of us incapable of discerning truth from lies. This 'demon' is called Lilith in esoteric writings.

But these aren't really 'demons' are they? They are agents of collective forces such as xenophobia, racism, greed, chaos and the rest. These forces have existed throughout human history, and tend to be abated through cataclysmic things like plagues, famines and wars. The Second World War is an example - the collective energies of anti-Sematism, racism, and greed were defeated at the cost of 60 million lives, and these forces slept uneasily until the constant drumbeat of wedge issues such as misogyny, homophobia, xenophobia, anti-Sematism, greed (remember Gorden Gecko?), envy and so on sapped our decency and kindness as a people.

The plan was formed in 1971 by Lewis Powell in his "An Attack on American Free Enterprise" which he wrote at the behest of the US Chamber of Commerce. It set forth the methodology for the corporate takeover of this republic. Now Project 2025 is the plan for what to do to consolidate power after the coup has taken place.

No one wants to live in these kind of times, but larger forces are at work. Trump is literally and purposefully dismantling the American Empire which we inherited from Britain at the end of the Second World War, but which we had been steadily building since the late 19th century. We are entering an age where the giant centralized government set up by FDR in the New Deal is disintegrating of its own weight and yes, corruption. Now, we must reach out to neighbors and build community - micro-lending to help people form cottage industries, community and individual gardens, and transforming our local and state economies to become more self-sufficient.

It is the exact fear of suffering, deprivation and death that has created the sense of dread that powers these three collective forces - chaos, tyranny and distraction. Once we realize that this life is but a compressed learning experience held within the parentheses of birth and death, then we may free ourselves of these fears and attachments and act to help one another.

Because the real truth is that we have been lied to about scarcity. Those who feverishly amass wealth and temporal power have created great distortion in the basic survival needs all of us have on this plane. Eleven people a minute die of starvation so people such as Thiel, Trump, Musk, Bezos and others can have 'just a little more.'

To paraphrase a proverb, it is good to have enough each day. Any more and you will begin worrying about losing what is ephemeral in the first place, and any less and your needs in this realm, constrained as they are by space, time and the physical needs of your body, cannot be met. I am in your boat - disabled and a caregiver for my spouse. I too experienced homelessness at one point in my life.

We may lament living in times such as these, but we are living in them and so must do what is necessary to battle these forces, again by building community. Will we suffer? Surely yes. Will some die? Again yes, but in the end this applies to all. But what if we are approaching a species awakening - a realization of connectedness between each of us and all life on this Earth?

Anyway, I sincerely wish us all the best, but it is for us to do the best we can - nothing more or less - and none of us are as powerless as these forces would like to have us believe.

Lots of food for thought here, and I'm bookmarking to come back and read it again when it's quiet in the house and I won't be disturbed. Very Jungian, yet you also touch on Maslow's hierarchy of needs. The esoterica of Jung, IMO, can't be reached the individual unless Maslow's Law has been achieved. But again, I've got a cacophony around me at the moment, so I want to come back and re-read. Would love to get in more discussion if you're interested!

even if bennies are a week late, it will send shock waves out to maga land.

also, i've always been told it generally takes 18 months for a potus's policies to be fully felt. It may not take that long, but just wait for economic meltdown to really kick in.

Massive protests leading to Martial Law--with the full support of the MAGA Morons and the Republican Party.

Within 30 to 60 days.

Will the government, set by our forefathers, save itself? It is worth it? Will we confront the king and stop him? Or do what Carville suggests, and lay low and let them self destruct? I say, don't take the chance and take control of the situation NOW!! And the GOP has to lend a helping hand. Our democracy must preside.

... God help HIM, 'cause nobody else will.
He wanted to burn down the house, but it is he who will go down in flames, and take Musk with him. They are both insanely evil. But then, that describes every conservative that Satan ever defecated.

Our strength doesn't depend on their weakness. Quite the opposite. It's a fact of history that nothing is too evil or insane for a Republican to get away with, but also a fact that they shatter like glass when Americans stand up to them.

Refuse all false premises, ignore all force-fed distractions, and speak to the real point rather than the rigged language they want you to help spread. There's no "government" there: They are a hateful, treasonous, insurrectionist criminal mob with no legal authority.

America's destruction is their goal. Show them that goal is out of their reach, in everything you say and do.

The April jobs report is going to be horrific
We are headed to a deep deep recession.
Hang on cuz it's gonna get ugly

"If" that were to happen, Islam would possibly be top religion. Let Trump and the Magabillys choke on that!

A lot of his supporters from two months ago are actively working against him in the here and now, and his only responses have been doubling down, pissing on an electrified third rail, and playing surrender monkey to Moscow, frustrating even more of his support.

The wagon's are still gathering, but a circle is slowly forming.

democracy, rapid change. TSF has always envied the richest and most powerful men in the world..and on top that pile is the former KGB officer, now dictator. Is there any evidence to suggest this isn't what TSF wants at any cost to the rest of us?

They can't turn back now. Yes, collapse of many things the US and the world has gotten used to over the last 80 years. Collapse of this grand scheme to divide up the world among the richest and most powerful? Unclear....

I found polls on the economy under Biden really odd. People would say the economy was bad and they were worse off when asked basic general economic poll questions. But if they were asked more specific questions about their own financing they'd say things like, "Yeah, I make more money and am doing better." Joe Biden presided over the best economy in the US in 60 years, but propaganda got people to ignore their own improving situations and say the economy is bad.

I think the reverse will now be true. People will be losing their jobs, their homes, and their savings, but they'll say, 'Well, the economy is good and I'm better off because of that in the long run."