Canada so I did not. I'm also chicken.

As a Canadian you have every right to speak out here. TSF doesn't run this board. Fact though, he is f++kin you and us.

I ❤Canada.

I love that you BOOED this Prez at the hockey game,

I know you don't hate us all, you hate the Prez as do we.

against the snakes and win. May Trump be a burp in the history of America (and in this history of Canada)

For a moment I thought this was Antidemocratic Underground. Too bad some rather bash democrats than Republicans. But some just want to sit on their high horse to feel they are morally superior to feed their egos.

fight? There are many ways to do that.

Some walked out, some held signs saying false, others wore shirts with messages, some scrawled messages on white boards, none clapped or justified trumps lies.

Most seem to want feel good performance art that will accomplish nothing.

Greene was escorted out. The criticism, everyone should have walked out!!!!! They held up silly silly silly signs! That was a Dems suck comment.

Please explain to all of us, NHL how you want us All to fight.

I want to know, we all want to know. You have a plan? I will be with you to fight in a NY minute! Tell us the plan!!!!

Because they have no idea. All they can do is shout “do something.” It’s a joke.

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Nevertheless, I am still proud of the resistance they showed against the traitor.

If only Dems could have had a few more seats, orange menance would be removed from power.

Nevermind about the walk out, they would have filled the seats with Republicans.

Whether right or wrong to do it, there's going to come a time when there is no other choice. Unless, of course, we are willing to allow the bullies to kill us.

I’ve been to other Democratic site and the trashing with same talking points.

Makes me wonder.

It's all good. Fun and games, yeah?

person repeating this BS.

I support my party. I want my party to win.

All I can do is offer my perspective and I feel critical because, well, I'm a constituent - I have every right to be critical.

I'm worried for my party, and I'm going to bed tonight sadder than when I woke up.

were trained on the liar most of the evening, vs. Democrats.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/why-congresswomen-wearing-pink-trump-speech-2025/
"Pink is a color of power and protest," she told the magazine. "It's time to rev up the opposition and come at Trump loud and clear."

But we should learn how to take the cameras off of Trump.

My soul hurts after this, and I didn't even watch it. I'm consuming secondary and tertiary sources.

response on MSNBC. Tune in if you care to.

I think the ambien is winning so its sleepy time.

take back congress in 2026.

Sleep well!

WATCH LIVE: Democratic response to Trump's address to Congress - MSNBC
https://democraticunderground.com/132143116

when they are controlled by the corporate media?

Doubt it's the minority party.

This ish is so fucking stupid. Obviously the cameras were not showing all the walk outs and signs. I mean seriously- DUH!!!

Some people never learn.

right moment when they may best, and most effectively, launch a counterattack. You can only fall on your sword once -- so time it right and make it count!

into this mess in the first place.

Someone walked us to me last week and said, "Sir, your powder is the driest I've ever seen" It was incredible...he was crying when he said it.

edt:sp

That is not an attack. It is a fact. We are losing our democracy and I demand they do more.

Signs???? Really?? They should have walked out with Al Green or not attended. Signs were respectful of that disgusting spectacle.

Why are they being respectful of this? They are not reading the room correctly.

I am putting myself out there and it is a fucking scary environment. If i can do it. They can do it.

They reminded me of a bunch of old ladies at church in the summer with their fans. Dems want to know why we are losing voters? This! This is why we are losing the voters. They want a leader with fire in their belly and passion in their heart not stupid signs in their hands.

would Dems have accomplished by walking out?

Trump is wrong. Vance is wrong. Fox News is wrong. We need to kick their asses. The Dr. Strange "one solution" scenario isn't working at all. We need to come fighting hard.

That nobody seems to be doing anything about what’s happening in our country

to our Congress critters. They're there to represent us. So tell them what we want them to do rather than just saying "you suck." And yeah, I get the frustrations but the people who deserve the blame are getting far less of it than Democrats at the moment.

Your OP gave me the best place to say it.

I have joined a couple of them in my area and I’m in a red state, but there are a number of ideas that we all have on how to do things better and we all have to stand up and use our voices

And to be very honest, grassroots protests will be much more meaningful than politicians protesting. When they get the average guy pissed off enough to get off the sofa and get out with signs, they start to realize they've got a problem.

and numerous democracy-supporting civil rights organizations are doing a lot. Tonight many Dems used signs on their shirts or hands to make statements that bypassed media censorship and even possibly caused a few of those who don't follow politics but happened to tune into this to wonder about what's going on with Medicaid.

Could they be talking more clearly and forcefully in many cases? Probably yes, but some really aren't naturally effective communicators. Few have the verbal gifts of an AOC, Jasmine Crockett, and some others, or the presence.

Are the media giving them a platform to speak? Quite often, media doesn't unless maybe local media when they're back home. But a lot of local TV stations are owned by Sinclair and others with a conservative agenda, and I suspect they don't get a platform there either.

BTW, Elissa Slotkin's response to the president's speech was terrific. Clear, and made the point that this administration's change has been chaotic, that Elon Musk called Social Security a Ponzi scheme when it was most American's retirement plan that they'd earned.

We, as Democrats, still continue to uphold our democratic traditions, which means -- having been essentially voted completely out of federal power -- there is little """to do""" about any of this under our system of government.

They can speak out, which they have done.

They can file lawsuits, which they have done.

They can help organize and protest, which they have done.

So, unless resorting to violent and/or undemocratic means, what else do people expect them to do?

We, as a nation, voted to not give the Democrats power at the federal level, which means we, as a nation, have no right to bitch and moan now that Democrats have no real power to stop any of this.

EVERYONE WAS WARNED THIS WOULD HAPPEN.

I don'i.

I am as upset as everyone else here. I don't have kids of my own to worry about, though I do have nieces and nephews and seven grands that I adore.

I am at a loss. If this rhetoric continues and intensifies, I do not want to be a part of it.

Sometimes it's hard to know if you're really looking at a post from a Democrat.

Yes, you have AOC, Jasmine Crockett, Al Green and several others, but many feel that other ones haven't stepped up to the plate. I even heard people say that Hakeem Jeffries isn't pushing back hard enough. Whatever it may be, the Democratic leadership has to step it up, all gloves are off.

I am having a real hard time being here these days.

When feeling "pearls before swine" becomes overwhelming then it's time to leave the farm. That farm isn't going to do well with the pigs in charge, they really don't know anything.

On all fronts.

"Constructive criticism", hell yes! But, like you, and others, have stated, in many cases that is NOT what is happening. The number of threads TRASHING Elise Slotkin as the choice for response to the lies of Trump, and she hadn't uttered a word. Seems many have changed their tune.

The number of people who DEMAND the democrats DO THIS or they are WEAK, DO THAT or they are a DINO is getting fucking OLD! This is uncharted, unprecedented times and there are going to be a variety of tactics. As someone who is well versed in gay history, I can say the road to where we are was because many different roads were taken. Some worked well, some not as well, and some flat-out failed. But we have to try a variety of ways. There isn't always JUST ONE WAY!

We need to understand there will have to be multiple attacks, some blatant and direct, some long-term and slow. This isn't a drive-thru. We aren't going to get instant results. We just have to be prudent, intelligent, committed, and persistent, and we have to know who REAL friends are and cull the false ones. Lest the donkey drown in the river...

“The Man, the Boy, and the Donkey”

A Man and his son were once going with their Donkey to market. As they were walking along by its side a countryman passed them and said: “You fools, what is a Donkey for but to ride upon?”

So the Man put the Boy on the Donkey and they went on their way. But soon they passed a group of men, one of whom said: “See that lazy youngster, he lets his father walk while he rides.”

So the Man ordered his Boy to get off, and got on himself. But they hadn’t gone far when they passed two women, one of whom said to the other: “Shame on that lazy lout to let his poor little son trudge along.”

Well, the Man didn’t know what to do, but at last he took his Boy up before him on the Donkey. By this time they had come to the town, and the passers-by began to jeer and point at them. The Man stopped and asked what they were scoffing at. The men said: “Aren’t you ashamed of yourself for overloading that poor donkey of yours and your hulking son?”

The Man and Boy got off and tried to think what to do. They thought and they thought, till at last they cut down a pole, tied the donkey’s feet to it, and raised the pole and the donkey to their shoulders. They went along amid the laughter of all who met them till they came to Market Bridge, when the Donkey, getting one of his feet loose, kicked out and caused the Boy to drop his end of the pole. In the struggle the Donkey fell over the bridge, and his fore-feet being tied together he was drowned.

“That will teach you,” said an old man who had followed them:

“Please all, and you will please none.”

And that story, is perfect.

I am so tired and need to sleep. I am angry and so frustrated with the trashing of Democrats. I felt the need to log off and log in again to see if I was on Democratic Underground. Much to my dismay, I am still here and it hasn't gotten any better.

I love you my dear and I thank you.💙

who are frustrated.

the Democratic Party in their heads is a fictional enemy based on disinformation.

Hair on fire screaming that Dems were going to leap up and give Trump standing ovations and clap clap clap clap blowing kisses, they just know it. Long threads of how horrible Democrats are, how horrible "Dem leadership" is, about the horrible job Slotkin would do, DEMOCRATS SUCK.

Oh wait, any of that turn out to be true? No. Will anyone apologize and admit they were wrong and think twice about mindlessly believing what other people tell them about Democrats? No.

Just another day on Democratic Undermine.

We don't need to make things harder than they already are, yet here we seem to do just that.

Easy to understand why right-wingers hate Democrats, but others? Something psychological. No wonder they're always whining about needing leaders. Is everyone authoritarian now?

but the optics from tonight are horrible!! Regrettably you will see all this again right before the midterms.

I do not think, based upon some of the comments I've read recently, that some of our friends understand how government works. That includes the three federal branches, as well as the role state governments can and do play. At this point, Democrats are a minority in both houses of Congress. There is not a great deal they can do. However, in states where Democrats are in control, they can file the federal court cases that frustrate the felon's destruction of democracy and human decency. There are also a few non-government groups -- such as CREW -- that at important times can file. Hence, I recently posted a brief essay on this topic.

Note: I will admit that on some level, I would enjoy seeing the Obamas, decked out in black leather jackets and mirror shades, ride Harleys into the White House, and engage in the actions of the prophet Jesus in the temple.

A woman as Governor, Lt. gov, AG etc. We elected women all across the board in the last election.

Fact. Women will be the ones that change this world and make it a great place for us all. I hope it is in my lifetime, but mark my words it will happen.

They see the country sliding away from democracy and toward fascism. We're powerless. Our elected leaders are not. I can understand why so many are angry that the Democrats seem to be sleepwalking to an autocracy.

Mark Warner was on FOX News today saying that he didn't agree with Trump but respected the office so he owes him his due - and then praised his handling of the border.

Warner is one of the more senior Democratic senators. That is not helpful. The sanewashing of Trump from some in the party does suck and it's a big reason we're in this mess.

Exactly.

One post I've seen on DU (copied from a social media post) that was constructive was the suggestion that Democrats schedule their own daily press briefings like the ones we used to expect from the WH. Perhaps it's not feasible at this point, but at least someone was imaginatively invested in strategy. Most of the complaints against Democrats here are void of anything but hostility.

Is dreaming. The only people going to save us are....
us.

We must ban together and stop the lies!

It sure as Hell does "Go Beyond Constructive Cristtism"..

Nothing "constructive" about it... Not Helping Anything. Boom.

Thank You!

Thank you, Cha.

I am so upset with what I have been reading here. I am at a loss for words. I just don't know what to say anymore . I don't.

reading your Title.

I am too. and so are many others and glad you Verbalized it so passionately and Succinctly.

Brava!

People will argue for one, or another, or yet another approach.
We are between elections.
Many are also frustrated and need a place to vent.
We are not in an active election season (except a few scattered special elections). NOW is the time to get behind the directions we think this party should go in.
The umbrella is broad. 2 senators in our coalition are in fact independents.
We need to support the democratic candidates in primary season (when little or no options on a given slate) and in the main elections.
This board has been opened up to more criticism at this time by EarlG and any other powers that be.
And I am very glad for it.
For the really "out there" and mean postings, or people you don't want to hear from at this time, there are alert and block functions respectively. Use your agency on this board, too.

The Democratic Party has been the implementer of all political progress in America for generations.

Independents and third parties can take credit for plenty of grassroots success, but they have never, ever managed to implement a single thing on the federal level, and done quite a lot of damage to their own alleged causes in the meantime.

I will never forgive Naderism for what they did to the first decade of this century, and I won't forgive dumb, egomaniac bastards who refused to join the team this time around over some single issue that is now infinitely worse thanks to them.

It creates a false narrative.

And I could not agree with you more.

I understand, but I also believe that more should be expected of the Democratic party in these trying times. I am mad and angry, and I have many justified reasons for being that way. So, I will always call out Democrats when i feel like it's appropriate to do so. If that's too much for you (or anyone here), then I invite you to put me on ignore or trash any threads that I have.

I, and many others here, were barraged over our early-on criticism of Merrick Garland. "Oh, just give him time..." was my favorite excuse. Well, how did that work out for ya? We ran out of time, and we are in the freaking mess of our lifetime. I will not coddle a Democrat just because they are a Democrat. They are elected to do a job, and I expect them to do that job.

I vote and support Democrats FOR A REASON. That reason is for them to represent me; not turn a blind eye to what is happening.

I was SO VERY PROUD of Al Green for standing up. I don't give a rat's ass about decorum. I care about someone fighting for the people, standing up, and making their ideals heard in contrast to all of the shitshow that is the GOP.