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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThere were a lot of Dem protests in the House chamber last night. All need to be respected
...and not dragged with projections of people who have far less political chops than elected officials in office, legislators who ran and won actual political campaigns of opposition to Trump and republicans, dedicated pols who have exercised far more opposition to republicans than their detractors.
I'm glad some walked out, and happy others stood their ground to call out Trump as he spoke, But so many have misinformed here about the opposition Dems waged last night, and just demagogued people for not filling out these critic's own projections.
It wasn't just Al Green that walked...
Jake Sherman @JakeSherman
Democrats now walking out in droves. Huffman, Omar, Jayapal, Raskin, Lofgren all just walked out.
Chris Van Hollen out now too.
Pocan and Doggett out now.
More Democrats are leaving as Trump talks about Ukraine. Takano, Castro.
Bernie Sanders just walked out of the House chamber.
House Democrats are now yelling "Jan. 6" as Trump talks about standing up for law enforcement.
...a number of House Democrats are now holding up signs that say "false"
Pennsylvania Democratic Rep. Madeleine Dean has been in a number of conversations with sergeant at arms staff, pointing at the Republican side of the aisle.
Rashida Tlaib is holding up a whiteboard that appears to say "That's a lie"
...some Democrats are holding signs that say "Save Medicaid"
...now a number of House Democrats are standing with their back toward Trump. some are wearing tshirts that say "resist."
A number of them just left the House chamber.
... missed this earlier. Democrats did not join the escort committee to bring Trump into the chamber.
Brian Tyler Cohen @briantylercohen 10h
The Democrats are now walking out of the chamber en masse.
Harry Sisson @harryjsisson 10h
Democrats are currently walking out of Trumps speech en masse
Cassie Semyon @casssemyon 10h
.@RepKamlagerDove was one of the Democrats who walked out of the Presidents address to Congress tonight. She was wearing this shirt as she walked out of the chamber in protest. In a statement, Kamlager-Dove said theres only so much bullshit that a person can tolerate.
David Smith @SmithInAmerica 11h
Jasmine Crockett and several other Democrats walk out of the chamber in protest. Some have "Resist" written on the back of their clothes.
Maxwell Alejandro Frost @MaxwellFrostFL 10h
We just walked out of the state of the Union. My shirt showed Trump an important message: NO KINGS LIVE HERE.
In the spirit of student protestors from the Civil Rights Movement, Im proud to have protested and walked out with many of my colleagues.

...more.
Callie1979
(1,140 posts)Also not standing for ANYTHING that was said was also a mistake. I mean how do you NOT applaud a child cancer survivor.
I wish those along the entrance row wouldnt have ignored Trump as he entered. They shouldve been asking him about his russian money, why does he hate democracy, why is he supporting Putin, why did he get the Tate brothers (sexual predators) released
DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)MTG and Bang Bang Boebert standing up and screaming LIAR repeatedly during Biden's Speech........
I loath the fact that Bang Bang is from Colorado. We may be a bright Blue state, but all of Rural Colorado votes bright red.
Think about how Boebert got the name, Bang Bang. It wasn't from her carrying a gun strapped all the time to her hip.
She literally got thrown out of packed audience at the Denver Center for Performing Arts, during a play one night.
There is amazing quality security video of her and her most recent boy toy, vaping an unknown substance, and giggling like school children, and laughing out loud during the performance......Then it conclusively shows her groping him and him groping her like a couple of teenagers in the back row of the balcony in a small town movie theatre......
Security members, during the performance, escorted her and her boy toy out of the theatre and the video of that shows her giving the finger to the security team on the way out of the theatre.....Check the internet for the video if you don't believe it and think I am embellishing their "Performance".........
Callie1979
(1,140 posts)Lovie777
(21,717 posts)Think. Again.
(22,456 posts)...while your brother-in-arms gets removed from the room for standing against fascism.
How mortified they must be this morning.
Oopsie Daisy
(6,670 posts)Paladin
(32,267 posts)But I've got my doubts. The Democrats shouldn't have shown up at all, last night; instead, they delivered a wimpy-assed gift exhibition to trump and his scumbag republican cheerleaders. When or if another trump SOU rolls around, the Democrats better show a lot more principled anger and courage than they did last night---the era of competing for good conduct medals ended some time ago. Rep. Green's actions ought to serve as a template.
Farmer-Rick
(12,470 posts)And both tactics are very useful.
There were some Dems who didn't show up at all.
And there were those who walked out or protested where the cameras were.
What we need now, is a list of Dems who did Nothing.
W_HAMILTON
(10,055 posts)Think. Again.
(22,456 posts)....I will be sure to represent my constituents with the strength of integrity they have every right to expect from me as their elected representative.
W_HAMILTON
(10,055 posts)Some because of a difference of opinion, some because they are simply misguided, and some because it benefits their true politics by driving wedges between Democrats.
Think. Again.
(22,456 posts)....some if they see me being weaker that I should and could be.
mr715
(2,674 posts)NT
Think. Again.
(22,456 posts)mr715
(2,674 posts)Consider it. We should elect us.
bluesbassman
(20,372 posts)They looked like an anti-depressant ad. IYKYK.
bigtree
(93,337 posts)...is actually advocacy against republicans.
bluesbassman
(20,372 posts)They were outmaneuvered and out played last night. If THAT performance was the best "advocacy against Republicans" our team could muster, we're in for a long four years of ass whoopings.
Farmer-Rick
(12,470 posts)It was just a start. It wasn't meant to be the ultimate protest. You need something like occupy for that.
No one thinks one protest is going to stop all the oligarchs and fascists.
Think. Again.
(22,456 posts)....will be what turns public opinion, as it always does.
Farmer-Rick
(12,470 posts)They were fine. Any and all protests against fascists are very useful.
Ridiculing protests are a way of suppressing protest.
If you are going to criticize other's protests. Tell us what you have done.
bluesbassman
(20,372 posts)NOTHING they did last night was the least bit effective and you know it. The only effective thing they did was hand the MAGAts a whole bunch of memes to use.
I've marched in the streets of Austin, written and called my deep red congressman and Senators, and more. What have YOU done besides provide cover for scared little rabbits?
Farmer-Rick
(12,470 posts)They had done nothing.
Seems to me if you get sooooooo upset over the Dems doing this small amount of protesting, are you going to have a heart attack when they increase their efforts against the fascists? If you want more and stronger protests, you are not going to get it if you bash the little amount they do.
They at least did something. Which is better, an improvement. It's a beginning.
If you scream and hollar about liberals protesting you are suppressing liberals protesting. Who cares about stupid right wing memes? Mostly stupid right wingers. There are going to be a lot more memes before the US military parade for Putin begins.
Yeah, this is far too little but it's a start. Do we need a lot more? yeah! But squashing the first attempts to even clap back is not going to get you the huge protests you claim you want. Occupy started as a small sit in and look at what evolved.
And yes, I have marched in protests too. I was there with occupy. I have written my Congress critters too. Me and my fellow protesters in TN were surround by motorcycle gangs trying to stop us. They kept driving around us yelling and holding up Nazi symbols. They didn't stop us though. And I suspect the gang got paid by pedo Trump supporters.
I'm not against what you claim to want. And I will and have joined in such protests....but ridiculing the little that gets done won't get you more of it.
druidity33
(6,869 posts)what absolutely devastatingly effective move they could have made. Do you? Why don't you tell us what stunning spectacle you would have arranged...at the SOTU...as a Congressperson/Senator.
Please, let them know how they went wrong and why Democrats are so weak.
bluesbassman
(20,372 posts)That would've been a massive show of protest and if Johnson tried to have them all removed, that would've made an impact.
I answered you're question, now answer one for me. What is the Democratic leadership doing that makes you think they're so strong? Who exactly are they influencing with their actions?
druidity33
(6,869 posts)There are Reps and Senators. Each their own person. Nobody in leadership is telling Democratic politicians, "This is what you must do... or else!". That's not how Democrats work. You know, big tent, herding cats... all that jazz. We're not all going to agree on tactics. For instance, i disagree with yours.
Let's get to your suggestion. How do you suppose standing "in unison" would've worked in that venue? Ever practice dance in a group or synchronized swimming? Well neither have our Reps. So yeah I think that would've been thoroughly ineffective. By the time the cameras veered anywhere near a Democrat they would've already been walking out the door... I'd rather they interrupt his speech a dozen times than just the once. And if you think dragging Democrats out one at a time by the Sgt at Arms is a good idea...wel i don't know what to say then.
I would like to have seen Democrats hold their own SOTU at a different venue entirely. But i can see how logistically that would have been improbable... in part because i'm sure some Dem politicians felt the need to protest at the actual SOTU. In different ways of course.
bluesbassman
(20,372 posts)Good luck with that.
617Blue
(2,189 posts)Their mere presence legitimizes his presidency.
bigtree
(93,337 posts)...these are dedicated pols who ran successful campaigns against republican opponents.
They don't deserve being associated with Trump just because they didn't fill out someone else's projection of what opposition looks like to them.
NNadir
(37,289 posts)...in the right direction!
mcar
(45,661 posts)He thought what the Democrats did was effective and thinks they got under FOTUS' skin.
At this point, some on social media who claim to be Democrats or Progressives don't seem to have our best interests at heart. They just like to complain.
Think. Again.
(22,456 posts)....strongly stating the need for effective, dynamic responses from our elected representaives to the fascist takeover of the U.S. is more than just complaining.
mcar
(45,661 posts)Others are offering productive ideas.
Think. Again.
(22,456 posts)....those aren't the only 2 options.
MrSkunkB
(83 posts)Stop skirting and speaking in code.
Think. Again.
(22,456 posts)Maeve
(43,336 posts)The devil can't stand ridicule and right now it's one of our better tools. And all tools are needed right now.
I understand the desire to make a grand gesture, but this war isn't going to be won overnight.
Cha
(316,710 posts)by "they got under flotus' skin"?
Mahalo!
Scubamatt
(253 posts)who has strongly voiced a desire for action, not passivity, in our leadership, I couldn't agree with this post more. While I would have preferred a unified tactic, it was heartening to see our leaders not approach this passively, out of a false, one sided sense of civility and decorum. We must fight this tyrant in any/every way we can and last night was a good start! Now we need to build on it!
AmericaUnderSiege
(777 posts)I'd probably try to do more out of ego, but it wouldn't matter. This is the best thing.
the_liberal_grandpa
(264 posts)They took the spotlight off of the felon and likely some of the media attention.
I wanted more of this not less.
Anyone saying they thought it was disrespectful is either a repub or they are living in a different reality.
Go Dems! Fight Hard!
Wild blueberry
(8,129 posts)Thank you.
et tu
(2,387 posts)you can't resist or make a statement
if you don't attend- more good trouble is
needed bigly~
Think. Again.
(22,456 posts)...holding a townhall, or booking a live media fact-checking session, or doing any number of more worthwhile actions than waving cute signs, would be resisting AND making statements.
nolabear
(43,847 posts)I heard so much criticism and literally no answers as to what would have been satisfactory. Theres no point in doing anything if youre attacked by both sides.
PortTack
(35,811 posts)keepthemhonestO
(628 posts)Thank you for giving us a full list of everything that happened. I'm glad the ones went rogue that felt like they could do what they could.
I'm glad they didn't normalize him cuz these are not normal times.
Oopsie Daisy
(6,670 posts)The chorus of wailing, the cacophony of gnashing teeth, and all this hand-wringing would lead me to incorrectly assume that the Democrats were complicit, or cheering-him-on with great fanfare.
I guess anything short of an Ides of March attack would leave the harshest critics disappointed and feeling hostile toward Democrats.
orleans
(36,667 posts)those of us interested in reading/seeing "more"
happy feet
(1,258 posts)For posting this.
Hekate
(100,132 posts)Nanjeanne
(6,506 posts)was made as they made their way out. No disruption was made. No notice was given. No camera picked it up. No security was needed. No microphones met them outside. Im pleased they eventually got disgusted enough to leave. Thats nice. Its not protest. Its not doing something. Now Im a huge fan of Frost. I wish he had made good trouble. I like Mark Pocan but I wish he had stood as Trump denigrated trans people, said Shame on you and had to be escorted out. Everyone has different mileage on what constitutes doing something. Some are satisfied with reading that some walked out. Some wish for more Al Green energy.
wryter2000
(47,940 posts)The problem is do-nothing Dems. If they just fought, they could fix things.
mountain grammy
(28,676 posts)I'd be happier if they all walked out, but let's applaud those who did..
orangecrush
(28,282 posts)And I am pushing 70.
My S.O. works 6 days a week cleaning other people's houses.
She relies on Medicaid for diabetes and heart condition treatment. Insulin and heart meds.
The Nazis on the wrong side of that aisle, and their coup leaders, want to take it all away.
If they succeed, I will be living in the street, begging for food, clothing and shelter.
My S.O. would probably die a miserable death.
THIS IS NOT A GAME OR HOBBY FOR ME.
wryter2000
(47,940 posts)Dems have no message. They aren't doing enough to fight Trump. They have no passion.
iluvtennis
(21,467 posts)orangecrush
(28,282 posts)I.am very proud of and grateful to the handful of Democrats who stood heads and shoulders above the rest.
RandySF
(81,092 posts)arguing over what Dems did on a night every president dominates.
bucolic_frolic
(54,010 posts)So let them be, there is no one size fits all magic bullet to prick the Trump bubble.
LeftInTX
(34,013 posts)It's their job to :
Refute the lies
Communicate our strategy to combat his strategy.
That is our only obligation....
If they want to protest, that's great. If they don't, that's also their decision. If their protest is lame, it's lame. If it's good, it's good. They are not professional protesters. It's not going to make or break anything.
HereForTheParty
(915 posts)5% of the delegation walking out sporadically is not "en masse".