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LuckyCharms

(22,490 posts)
Mon Mar 10, 2025, 06:58 PM Mar 2025

I believe strongly that there are very powerful, non-fascists in this country, in fact, in the world,

that are NOT sitting around with their thumbs up their asses just watching all of this unfold without a plan to do something other than protest this nonsense.

People with ways and means to put an end to this.

People who understand the gravity of all of this tripe.

People who take history seriously.

And that's about all I am allowed to say here.

Interpret this post however you want.

Bookmark this post if you like.

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I believe strongly that there are very powerful, non-fascists in this country, in fact, in the world, (Original Post) LuckyCharms Mar 2025 OP
I so hope you are right Horse with no Name Mar 2025 #1
Someone HAB911 Mar 2025 #2
OMG is this the best message or what???? n/t birdographer Mar 2025 #11
This! Joinfortmill Mar 2025 #13
WE are the people we are waiting for. . . . h2ebits Mar 2025 #19
I'm going to call it a day on the internet with this one (except maybe to read it one more time before bed). Alice B. Mar 2025 #3
I believe there are many in this country's military who will rzemanfl Mar 2025 #4
like invade cilla4progress Mar 2025 #15
I am wondering about this as well. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #5
He already has BonnieJW Mar 2025 #21
It's a nice fantasy ZRB Mar 2025 #6
Except they aren't saving us birdographer Mar 2025 #16
I hope you're right ZRB Mar 2025 #31
"Allowed to say" WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2025 #7
Yeah. Any civil acts that would provide a speedy solution Aussie105 Mar 2025 #24
I find myself wishing there really was a "deep state" alarimer Mar 2025 #8
Out of 340 million people, there must be some with a will and a way. milestogo Mar 2025 #9
OMG I say this every morning birdographer Mar 2025 #17
Yesterday I said in a comment that the yorkster Mar 2025 #22
The MIC is being threatened - hmmmmm. NoMoreRepugs Mar 2025 #10
My prayer. Joinfortmill Mar 2025 #12
I wish this were true angrychair Mar 2025 #14
Agree malaise Mar 2025 #18
Unfortunately, Escape Mar 2025 #20
why do you believe that? what is not allowing you to say more? nt orleans Mar 2025 #23
See post 24. Aussie105 Mar 2025 #26
there is no post 24. if you see it please provide the link nt orleans Mar 2025 #33
This is why this is a global conflict. There are rich and powerful people on both sides of this issue, wiggs Mar 2025 #25
Unfortunately no oldtime dfl_er Mar 2025 #27
Agree canetoad Mar 2025 #28
hhrrrallly? nilram Mar 2025 #29
Clearly they aren't very foresightful nilram Mar 2025 #30
Protests, and only protests, shut down the fucking War Machine many moons ago. GreenWave Mar 2025 #32

Alice B.

(727 posts)
3. I'm going to call it a day on the internet with this one (except maybe to read it one more time before bed).
Mon Mar 10, 2025, 07:06 PM
Mar 2025

And yes, I absolutely am bookmarking it.

rzemanfl

(31,331 posts)
4. I believe there are many in this country's military who will
Mon Mar 10, 2025, 07:09 PM
Mar 2025

honor their oath and refuse to obey illegal orders.

birdographer

(2,937 posts)
16. Except they aren't saving us
Mon Mar 10, 2025, 09:32 PM
Mar 2025

they are saving our allies, they are saving Ukraine, they are saving the world from economic collapse. This is not just one single country crying out for help. This is Nazi Germany happening again and guess what? The world does not want that. It’s centered here, but it is not contained here. It is everywhere. Gaza is not to be transformed into another failed trump enterprise after ethnic cleansing. Canada and Greenland are not up for grabs. This is global. We aren’t looking for aliens to solve this, we aren’t fantasizing. Citizens of the world have a stake in this. Look at the bigger picture.

Aussie105

(7,822 posts)
24. Yeah. Any civil acts that would provide a speedy solution
Mon Mar 10, 2025, 10:02 PM
Mar 2025

requiring acts of violence and law breaking, would be unacceptable unmentionables on this forum.

I've had to bite my tongue a few times.

 

alarimer

(17,146 posts)
8. I find myself wishing there really was a "deep state"
Mon Mar 10, 2025, 07:45 PM
Mar 2025

Some shadowy cabal somewhere, maybe with pissed off CIA agents or some kind of operatives anyway, willing to do the right thing.

birdographer

(2,937 posts)
17. OMG I say this every morning
Mon Mar 10, 2025, 09:33 PM
Mar 2025

when I check my phone before getting out of bed to see if it’s over.

yorkster

(3,782 posts)
22. Yesterday I said in a comment that the
Mon Mar 10, 2025, 09:56 PM
Mar 2025

fact that Trump got re-elected made talk of a deep state seem pretty empty. If there were one, how could they let the Russian asset take power again.
What I left unsaid is that, like you, and Lucky, I hope that somewhere there are
strategic, high level communications taking place. Almost can't fully grasp the
potential for disaster, here and abroad, if that's not the case.

angrychair

(12,164 posts)
14. I wish this were true
Mon Mar 10, 2025, 09:28 PM
Mar 2025

But all those people are helping TSF too.

The American people are the only and last line of defense and most of them will sell this country out for $500 check.
Bookmark this comment: TSF will flip most Americans to supporting him by sending out check for just a couple hundred bucks. Most Americans will let him do whatever he wants to them for not much more than a fancy night out for a family of four.

Escape

(443 posts)
20. Unfortunately,
Mon Mar 10, 2025, 09:46 PM
Mar 2025

it will have to be the Republicans in the House and Senate who will join the Democrats in impeaching and removing Trump from office.

Are there any powerful non-fascist Republicans who will help us save the country?

wiggs

(8,772 posts)
25. This is why this is a global conflict. There are rich and powerful people on both sides of this issue,
Mon Mar 10, 2025, 10:03 PM
Mar 2025

from countries all over the globe who have a stake not just in the economy but in global corporate and national alliances.

IMHO this realignment with Russia, China, Iran, North Korea, and other authoritarian states is a shield against non-support from traditional alliances and traditional seats of power. He's all in with brutal oligarchs who won't stop him...he's immune to pressure from western seats of power.

He can tell everyone to f*ck off, except those who have offered to divide up the world with them and become history's richest and most powerful rulers.

oldtime dfl_er

(7,174 posts)
27. Unfortunately no
Mon Mar 10, 2025, 10:23 PM
Mar 2025

if this was true, they would never have let him get in for a second term. We are on our own against a world that is beginning to despise us, and will never trust us again.

nilram

(3,534 posts)
30. Clearly they aren't very foresightful
Mon Mar 10, 2025, 10:37 PM
Mar 2025

and/or their "power," "ways and means," or influence doesn't extend to elections.

GreenWave

(12,556 posts)
32. Protests, and only protests, shut down the fucking War Machine many moons ago.
Mon Mar 10, 2025, 10:49 PM
Mar 2025

The protests proliferated into the hearts and minds of many and spread like wildfire. A counter culture was emerging and the squares couldn't keep up with it. How to counterattack it? Drugs and squash/silence the messengers.. Suddenly even record companies had to behave like fascists; e.g. telling CSNY what to do, as songs were very powerful with their messages.
People are protesting now in many places and there is a chance the experience will radicalize them in the true sense of the word "radical" (the root) not this bullshit term for reactionaries wrongly applied.
Yes other things sprang up. Earth Day was a wonderful example.
When we heard things such as I did "The United States today owns and controls 2,270 foreign military outposts, stations and bases." NYT quoting the GAO back in the 60's, you do not have to be of Macedonian ancestry to know the USA long ago ceased to be a nation and has been an empire for over 125 years. And those stats do not even include clandestine operations or undeclared war operations.
Still many opposed those fucking undeclared wars merely so they could not be placed in harm's way. Soon the RW war mongers would switch this huge anti-war movement into pro POW sympathy by constantly pounding that drum. (End of rant, sorry!)

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