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Demovictory9

(37,113 posts)
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 02:48 AM Mar 2025

Portugal rules out buying US fighter jets: "the predictability of our allies is a greater asset"

https://www.politico.eu/article/portugal-rules-out-buying-f-35s-because-of-trump/

Portugal rules out buying F-35s because of Trump
The country’s air force has recommended buying the jets, but the outgoing defense minister said “the predictability of our allies” must be taken into account when making procurement decisions.

Portugal ruled out replacing its U.S.-made F-16 fighter jets with more modern F-35s because of Donald Trump — in one of the first examples of the U.S. president killing a potential lucrative arms deal.

The country's air force has recommended buying Lockheed Martin F-35s, but when outgoing Defense Minister Nuno Melo was asked by Portugese media Público whether the government would follow that recommendation, he replied: “We cannot ignore the geopolitical environment in our choices. The recent position of the United States, in the context of NATO ... must make us think about the best options, because the predictability of our allies is a greater asset to take into account."

With the dramatic realignment taking place under Trump — who said again today he would annex Greenland and threatened Canada — there are fears the U.S. government could decide block access to software updates and spare parts needed to make the F-35 fully operational.
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Portugal rules out buying US fighter jets: "the predictability of our allies is a greater asset" (Original Post) Demovictory9 Mar 2025 OP
It's a crap plane.nt Phoenix61 Mar 2025 #1
If by "crap" you mean "the best," then yes, it's crap. JoseBalow Mar 2025 #4
Nope. Crap as in massively expensive, frequently grounded Phoenix61 Mar 2025 #10
F-35 continues to disappoint as politicians pick contractors over taxpayers Celerity Mar 2025 #11
Also, markodochartaigh Mar 2025 #2
Exactly. Russia will be given all classified weapons information. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #6
That's okay F-Elon will just genius up something better... Hugin Mar 2025 #3
The US military can... littlemissmartypants Mar 2025 #5
No one can trust the US. sinkingfeeling Mar 2025 #7
I'm sure Canada is having second thoughts on the F-35. Swede Mar 2025 #8
Thanks a stinking crapload, republicons BoRaGard Mar 2025 #9

Phoenix61

(18,702 posts)
10. Nope. Crap as in massively expensive, frequently grounded
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 08:16 AM
Mar 2025

It was a great idea to design a base model that could be customized for each branch but like most fits all things it doesn’t.

Celerity

(53,655 posts)
11. F-35 continues to disappoint as politicians pick contractors over taxpayers
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 08:32 AM
Mar 2025
https://www.myjournalcourier.com/opinion/article/commentary-19513451.php

At a congressional hearing last month, Air Force Secretary Frank Kendall shockingly claimed that fewer than one-third of F-35s are operationally capable.

However jarring that number may seem, it should be familiar to everyone paying attention.

The F-35 has been a taxpayer-funded boondoggle for decades. The price tag is approaching $2 trillion. It is long past the point where taxpayers stop being responsible for the mistakes of government and big military contractors.

For most of the last two years, military contractors have been clamoring for a new engine program for the F-35. This came amid several problems with the current engines. The proposal rightly stalled out because of the many issues with the idea. The new adaptive engine transition program would have taken years to integrate, and, even then, it would not have been fully functional with the Navy and Air Force’s variant of the fighter jet.

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markodochartaigh

(5,015 posts)
2. Also,
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 03:50 AM
Mar 2025

if any country that has bought US weapons goes up against Russia, they have to consider that the US may have turned over all the information about those weapons to Russia.

Irish_Dem

(79,741 posts)
6. Exactly. Russia will be given all classified weapons information.
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 05:40 AM
Mar 2025

And US can refuse to repair or help maintain weapons used on the battlefield.

Hugin

(37,420 posts)
3. That's okay F-Elon will just genius up something better...
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 03:51 AM
Mar 2025

The “Craptoplain F-47” made of only the worst choice in stainless steel. “Hey, it looked better in my mind.”

It looks as if the world is looking for an alternative to US subs, too. That’ll leave a mark on the Defense sector.

littlemissmartypants

(31,616 posts)
5. The US military can...
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 05:24 AM
Mar 2025

No longer be trusted. Likewise our industries, manufacturers, food supply, research institutions, medical support information and more. We have President Psychopath and his current Republican political prisoners in congress to thank for that.

It's a daily struggle for me to stop myself from being physically ill and violently aggressive as a result of his influence on our society.

No one should be surprised by this.

❤️

BoRaGard

(7,591 posts)
9. Thanks a stinking crapload, republicons
Fri Mar 14, 2025, 07:32 AM
Mar 2025

You magat repubes blew this deal. No one wants to do business with liars and cheaters. Check your Bibles; your standard BS schtick happens to be thoroughly SINFUL and fundamentally untrustworthy.

Pssst - lots of people are noticing.

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