That those voters are evil, lack morality, and must be shamed for being unAmerican.

Our Tribe is better than them.

remember at the rally where Trump stated several times that "I love the un-educated".

But the biggest thing is how lazy a lot of people are, and want information spoon fed to them.

And Fox News, RW Radio, and Rush Limbaugh knew that, and performed magnificently at delivering it to them.

The RepubliCONs Also knew to go after a huge segment that were part of an existing flock that had a need to follow without thinking...............The evangelicals and Religious fanatics.

It didn't just happen, it was all a part of a Republican Psy-ops operation......

If you wonder why so much of what they are doing is similar if not exactly the same as Hitler and Naziz.......IT IS
Hitler/Goebells said if you say some lie, over and over again, it becomes truth in peoples minds. The KGB conducted an experiment decades ago, and proved it true and started using it on their State Media PRAVDA......

same playbook as so many of the evil regimes of history. Including the Taliban. Having BLM plaza in DC destroyed by bulldozers really drove home that point. Even worse, it was DC government that did the work, under fascist duress.

Trump voters are ignorant, incoherent, babbling idiots who are frightened, hateful racists, bigots, and misogynists too stupid and blind partisan to understand Trump is unfit to be president.

Last November was a catastrophic failure of democracy exposing democracy’s greatest flaw: the voters.

They vote for fetus rights. The woman be damned, and the fetus be damned when it's born and becomes a child.

That is just a better talking point than advocating for controlling the sexual behavior of women and protecting the rights of men to have their way with women. Having grown up in Mississippi and seen the sexual abuse of women when totally controlled by theats of reputation, morality and loss of a future, I know how a society can make the threat of rape a mind-destroying total imprisionment without bars for women, while ignoring men who rape of their own children. Despite the stories from women who grew up in the 50s, I never once saw a man questioned, much less prosecuted, for abuse of his daughter or granddaughter but I saw many a woman shunned for sexual behavor with a boyfriend. Even the rapist would call the raped names like slut and whore. That made it all OK.

Women are treated as 2nd class!! Is that mindset worse in the South???

than vote for a competent black woman

racist, sexist assholes indeed

It’s depressing. And many are young people, probably suffering from culture inbreeding.

It was pointed out today that social media "news" outlets lean like 95% conservative, and the highest rated and most subscribed to are heavily conspiracy theorist, like Alex Jones, Joe Rogan, and Jordan Peterson. We need to get to work fixing this or the next elections are going to get worse. Nothing will ever be a "sure thing" ever again. The blue wave of 2018 - 2020 - 2022 is gone.

put out stories that the subscribers like to hear. They were all ready "brainwashed" before they subscribed.

Fox didn't create its audience. It tapped into one that was already there.

Meanwhile, liberal outlets struggle because their targeted pool of likely viewers or listeners is much, much smaller

Sick bastards. Lying as a way of life. If only it was just snake oil.

To fall into the RW/CT blogosphere & podcast world and it begins to make a lot of sense. I've been watching the series of debates that Sam Seder had with young voters and it's astounding just how brainwashed they have become.

I keep saying that 2020 really fucked up some folks for life. They really couldn't handle masks and lockdowns. They weren't mature about it, they handled it with the fineness of a screaming toddler who wants a shiny new toy.

The SBC conditions them from birth with: "Democrats are baby killers."

There are just a lot of unengaged, racist, ignorant, and downright dumb people in this country.

It's like George Carlin said, "Think about how stupid the average person is, and then realize that half of them are stupider than that".

Original of the name is that I discovered Free Republic 20+ years ago first…I got zotted immediately as “Lucifer Himself.” I came back as a series of mobsters that all got kicked off the site immediately as well and they told me to back to DU. That’s how I discovered DU actually! My last name on their site was Lucky Luciano…and here we are!

I know George C. didn't mention that, but when the number of people who didn't vote or threw away their vote outnumber the people who did choose to vote, it makes me pause.
I'm don't have a college degree, yet even I could see the terrible threats from a group that is authoritarian and wants to establish a theocratic dictatorship. But, it appears like that is too arcane of a principle for a large number of people to grasp.
I know that the election was not really about the price of eggs, but how do we get the unengaged to see that their welfare depends on being informed and just plain showing up by voting?

And half thought they were being "cool".

They live in their little hometown bubble of similarly minded people. They are like zombies, or pod people, they just shut down when I challenge their beliefs.

Had nothing to do with race or ethnicity, had nothing to do with sexism or "hatred", my folks lost money under Biden and they wanted him gone because they wanted their money back.

Wanna know what? They got what they wanted. They were tied up in the DOW, and they rode the rebound off the 500 point swing, sold, and won't ever have to worry about money again.


It sucks. It sucks to know that my folks voted for the felon, but they voted in their interests and they're profiting. And they'll vote for him a third time if given the opportunity, despite my protestations. According to them, they're secure now, and they've also secured MY future regardless of where that security comes from.

It has nothing t o do with racism, sexism, or any other ism. Money talks. Other bullshit walks. It's that simple, and if someone can't or refuses to understand that, well... Not much anyone anywhere can do.

It's brutal, but the people that voted for him, at least some of them, got what they wanted. And they'll vote for him again. Something we all need to be prepared for.

On Inauguration Day 2021, when Biden took office, the Dow was at 31,188.38. On Election Day 2024, it was at 43,729.34.

If it was they would be in a fetal position. He is tanking the economy and he has no clue how to handle the country or its business interests. The people he is allowing Musk to fire didn’t vote for him because they were rich, they just thought he was going to hurt other less worthy people.

You just can't believe anything they say. They'll lie about anything, no matter how ridiculous, no matter how obvious the lie, and the other Trumpers in their lives will bob their heads up and down and pretend to believe them.

I love how in that story, "they rode the rebound off the 500 point swing, sold, and won't ever have to worry about money again." 500 points is less than a 2%.gain. Some people are awfully gullible - or they think we are.

But if I say it here I will be kicked off DU, I will say there is a mean streak that fuels MAGA.

Unless you're advocating for evil, advocating for violence, or claiming MAGAts are that way because of Democrats.

Some people are a bit sensitive.

Inflation was the highest it had been for a few decades. People are going to hold those in charge responsible when everything costs them 20+% more than it did.

The claim was very specific, and it pretty much can't be true as it was written.

Inflation was the top issue in poll after poll

Many of the people that voted for him could afford the egg farm and thousands of chickens. When they are sorry they voted for a felon they said he would hurt the people they felt were unworthy. No DEI, deport the criminals not hard working Americans, close the border and shrink the government, just not my job. They will never say the real reason. Lee Atwater taught them well

Day before election in 2020 ^DJI 26925.05 11/04/2020
Close day before taking office 2021 ^DJI 30930.52 01/19/2021
Day before election in 2024 ^DJI 41794.60 11/04/2024
Close day before leaving office 2025 ^DJI 41794.60 01/17/2025
So someone 100% in the DOW would have made a lot of money under Biden.

If they were older, perhaps they were invested in something else lighter in equity and higher in bonds.

My retirement account showed a large gain in the four years Biden was president.

I just don't get it

The one thing all Trump voters share is a deep hatred of Democrats. They have been conditioned to reject the Democratic party, even though they approve of most of the things Democrats stand for.

stupid one. They are proud of their ignorance.

Most cannot read above the fifth grade yet vote.

It's Fox "News" and all the other vile, anti-American propaganda outlets. It's everywhere. You buy a TV --- it's already pre-loaded with right-wing propaganda channels. Nothing objective or left-leaning. It's all right-wing, fascist propaganda everywhere.

Yes, she wanted to make their lives better, but she also wanted to make the lives of people they hate better. That is the reason they chose not to vote for her.

She was speaking to the kind of people who come here with nothing, or are born into poverty here (me), and spend their lives trying to educate themselves and build wealth and security. That’s not them.
Down payment assistance? They’re not buying homes. It takes more than a down payment. It takes a reasonably steady income and a decent credit score.
Help for small businesses? They’re not starting businesses, unless it’s cooking meth.
Student loan forgiveness? No way. They HATE that idea. They despise education, and certainly don’t want any more educated people looking down on them.
She had nothing for them.

the part of the brain that contains empathy.

The same here.

Sadly, I believe the key words in your lament are "intelligent" and "woman".

If we add the words "of color", or "ethnic", or simply "brown", it may not be understandable but it may begin to explain "America in 2025".

It's like voting for a long lost brother.

A racist, under educated, willfully ignorant electorate, under the influence of Fox news, et al.

Evidently, enough people are tired of having to be decent.

I don't think there's more to it than that.

They resent that they can’t say what they really think about women and minorities in the most vile language possible, anywhere they want.
They want the whole world to be a good old boys club, and resent the hell out of the fact that others have rights too.

It is the end result of what began in 1980 with the coming of the sainted Ronny. He started the Biggest of the Big Lies. He said that if you had problems, it was the fault of your government. The government was the enemy. He said that if you wanted your problems to go away and enter into heaven on earth, make your government go away. Of course that doesn't include the parts that keep rich people safe and comfortable.

Rinse and repeat relentlessly for 45 years. Add in a shrinking government commitment to financial support for all levels levels of education (adios Dept. of Ed.) which has resulted in an inferior quality of education and the simultaneous creation of a class of indebted collage graduates. You end up with a huge number of poorly educated people that have never learned how to reason and think for themselves. They don't have the ability to tell fact from propaganda. Echo and amplify the lies endlessly in the right-wing media sphere.

Add in a massive disparity between the super haves and the mostly have nots. The roots of that disparity can be traced directly to Ronny's other Big Lie, known as Trickle Down, or make the richer richer and they might occasionally throw you a bone. The end result is a serious hollowing out of the middle class and the creation of multi-generations of frustrated and bitter people.

Eventually a demagogue shows up and promises a golden age, and all of your enemies will be vanquished. Trump is truly the greatest con artist of all time. He recognized that the there was a large number of poorly educated and/or naive people that would buy into (literally) his big con. He rallied a large base while the opposition couldn't get its act together. No one can say that he didn't tell everyone who he was. The true believers loved him for it. The truly naive wanted change, but didn't believe him. On election day the MAGAts showed up and voted. And the truly naive on the opposition side also didn't believe him. They stayed home, nursed their petty grievances, while ignoring the onrushing disaster, and gave us Trump.

This is the result of a long term plan by the financial backers of the Republican party. First they put enough idiots in both houses of congress to establish control even when in the minority. Then they straight up bought SCOTUS. Finally, they hired Trump to administer the coup-de-grace to the administrative state. The Democrats never did see the threat clearly. Many still don't.

Effectively the super rich were able to buy the U.S. government lock, stock and barrel at a bargain basement price.

Just looked up one example

"Michael Savage's net worth is estimated to be between $18 million and $80 million, primarily from his career as a radio host and author. He is best known for his show "The Savage Nation" and has published several books promoting conservative nationalism."

There's a lot of money to be made spouting hatred of a true nation of immigrants.