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Eliot Rosewater

(34,282 posts)
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 12:39 PM Mar 2025

My nephew's been a republican for many years and he now just told me

He is a Democrat.

He is a Civil War reenacter etc. huge gun guy etc. just told me that Donald Trump is the most dangerous “animal“ in the world and he is now a Democrat.

Of all the people I know and of all my relatives the last person I would expect to do this and say this is him, I hope that means we have hope but I don’t know that it does.

He said that for the short time he was a police officer he took an oath to defend the Constitution and that’s why he’s now a Democrat.

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My nephew's been a republican for many years and he now just told me (Original Post) Eliot Rosewater Mar 2025 OP
Little glimmers of hope. GoneOffShore Mar 2025 #1
Dems are the genuine conservatives. Safe as Milk Mar 2025 #3
The GOP has become extremist, radical, no longer conservative. CaptainTruth Mar 2025 #6
They are NOT "radicals", the original meaning of which is to search for the "root" niyad Mar 2025 #9
The word 'Anarchist' comes to mind. Aussie105 Mar 2025 #63
That, or terrorists. niyad Mar 2025 #75
That is the popular meaning but... IbogaProject Mar 2025 #86
They stopped being conservatives a long time ago MadameButterfly Mar 2025 #69
I was always taught that conservatives were always "Status Quo". But the point they want to be in NOW is in the 1860's. LiberalArkie Mar 2025 #82
Yes creon Mar 2025 #21
Left a word out Attilatheblond Mar 2025 #31
Nihilist Celerity Mar 2025 #65
I don't get this thread. 'Consevative' IMO has always been a pejorative term. brush Mar 2025 #80
huh? Skittles Mar 2025 #46
I Think That You Are Right Baron2024 Mar 2025 #52
There is nothing Conservative about today's GOP or Trump Falcon101 Mar 2025 #76
This is not a little glimmer Chi67 Mar 2025 #29
He is not a democrat, he is a republican that got his ass handed republianmushroom Mar 2025 #2
Yeah, but I'll take it. It's better than a maga cult boy. Scrivener7 Mar 2025 #12
Leopards don't change their spots very easily. republianmushroom Mar 2025 #24
There is that old saying hadEnuf Mar 2025 #35
that *must* be an old saying because i'm getting old and i never heard that before. orleans Mar 2025 #59
A neighbor told me he wouldn't vote Republican again because Trump is "un-American." sop Mar 2025 #4
Yes, and contrary to what another poster here said, who I will NOT respond to, Eliot Rosewater Mar 2025 #15
There certainly used to be some, soldierant Mar 2025 #51
I hope he means that. The problem goes beyond just Trump; it truly is the GOP itself now. n/t Beartracks Mar 2025 #25
That's the next problem down the road... slightlv Mar 2025 #27
The 'new generation' of republicans think laws are for others and they can do anything they want anytime they want Attilatheblond Mar 2025 #33
That is the best PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2025 #61
Good point, what jumped out at me was on Facebook in front of all of Eliot Rosewater Mar 2025 #45
THAT is probably bigger than anything else!!!! Callie1979 Mar 2025 #53
The town halls were flipping the narrative gab13by13 Mar 2025 #5
Notice Schumer's posture? More and more like a vulture every day Attilatheblond Mar 2025 #34
Yeah, Schumer is really gross LymphocyteLover Mar 2025 #38
Daughter read article about his 'book tour'. Was amazed at prices to attend! Attilatheblond Mar 2025 #41
That's insane! What an asshole. Though I bet there are a bunch of people willing to pay LymphocyteLover Mar 2025 #58
A bit over $55, can't recall exact amount. And that's for the cheap seats. Attilatheblond Mar 2025 #67
So sick of politicians writing books. Falcon101 Mar 2025 #77
Guessing it's a way to launder $. Various RW groups bulk buy books by GOP pols. Figure same is true for Vichey Schumer Attilatheblond Mar 2025 #84
That is disingenuous MorbidButterflyTat Mar 2025 #91
He should be WAY more upset about those incidents than he expressed LymphocyteLover Mar 2025 #95
I wish lindalou65 Mar 2025 #7
Lots of Trump voters are now regretting their votes DeeDeeNY Mar 2025 #8
Lots of Civil War reenactors are Democrats NutmegYankee Mar 2025 #10
I apologize for implying that to be a civil reenactor you are probably a right winger or a Republican. Eliot Rosewater Mar 2025 #11
No Problem! NutmegYankee Mar 2025 #13
Dearest Hubbie once did research into Napoleonic and Civil War uniforms and hand-painted many Backseat Driver Mar 2025 #66
This is the group that will destroy Slobfather Donvict and his MAGATs malaise Mar 2025 #14
My Marine veteran son became more conservative when he was in the Marines and from being around other veterans. mommymarine2003 Mar 2025 #16
I pray he has a circle of influence that will make him the first of many JMCKUSICK Mar 2025 #17
More dangerous than Trump PatSeg Mar 2025 #18
You nailed it on the head, AFAIC! slightlv Mar 2025 #28
Oh absolutely PatSeg Mar 2025 #37
The 'welfare queen' jab was Reagan Republican's distracting all the union members they screwed from the real problem Attilatheblond Mar 2025 #40
Amen, Attila! slightlv Mar 2025 #93
For your example, they used linguistic judo misanthrope Mar 2025 #92
And they do this will all language... English is one of the hardest slightlv Mar 2025 #94
as madam razz would say, welcome to the right side deary. AllaN01Bear Mar 2025 #19
how i wish i would get a call like that barbtries Mar 2025 #20
All the trump stuff stoned Mar 2025 #22
When one is presented with a convert like this, it's important to lock it in Salviati Mar 2025 #23
Trump showed his true colors after pulling the wool. usonian Mar 2025 #26
A good sign. If enough Republicans come to their senses, we would win big in the midterms and take back Martin68 Mar 2025 #30
It is possible the next elections could end up being a Roosevelt style realignment of the electorate. Demsrule86 Mar 2025 #32
Sounds like your nephew deserves kudos for changing his mind based on observation and wiggs Mar 2025 #36
My brother and his wife were third-party voters wryter2000 Mar 2025 #39
Did he vote for djt? eom AKwannabe Mar 2025 #42
I don't know if he did this time or not I'm assuming he did the first time Eliot Rosewater Mar 2025 #49
Hallelujah luvallpeeps Mar 2025 #43
People are waking up LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2025 #44
I say better late than never... Dem4life1970 Mar 2025 #47
Thank you Eliot Rosewater Mar 2025 #48
My nephew just sent me this Eliot Rosewater Mar 2025 #50
sounds like he is a fairly intelligent guy -- certainly not the type of person trump loves... orleans Mar 2025 #62
Good to hear Meowmee Mar 2025 #54
I hope this happens a lot alarimer Mar 2025 #55
KnR n/t Alice Kramden Mar 2025 #56
Proud to contribute the 250th rec! calimary Mar 2025 #57
So, to clarify, please - he voted for Trump in 2024? Or he figured Trump out before the election? hamsterjill Mar 2025 #60
I will always always always remember! AKwannabe Mar 2025 #68
Voted Kamala, even had a Harris bumper sticker Eliot Rosewater Mar 2025 #74
Bumper sticker material? Aussie105 Mar 2025 #64
This message was self-deleted by its author flying-skeleton Mar 2025 #70
Just 1 question flying-skeleton Mar 2025 #71
Kamala Eliot Rosewater Mar 2025 #73
Wait?? I thought the Democratic Party was more unpopular than pond scum?? LeftInTX Mar 2025 #72
Tell your nephew it is a wise choise. riversedge Mar 2025 #78
One at a time... WinstonSmith4740 Mar 2025 #79
The people we have to turn are the social media/podcast influencers ecstatic Mar 2025 #81
Grudging compliments to your nephew. Paladin Mar 2025 #83
I guess that's good. Too bad the epiphany didn't come on November 4. catbyte Mar 2025 #85
Did he reach this "moment of Zen" back in November? Montauk6 Mar 2025 #87
Talk to him yesterday apparently in 2020 Eliot Rosewater Mar 2025 #90
I'm so glad someone you care for has seen the error of their old views & even more, admitted it! CrispyQ Mar 2025 #88
He is not alone!!! MyMission Mar 2025 #89

Safe as Milk

(219 posts)
3. Dems are the genuine conservatives.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 12:52 PM
Mar 2025

And I'm not experimenting in pejoratives.

Dems defend the Constitution. You see it everywhere. They defend the judiciary, the military, the traditional aspects of the DOJ, on and on. They uphold their oaths of office.

GOPers desecrate the Constitution. Led by Trump, they are NOT conservatives. They are ripping apart the Constitution. They are counter revolutionaries, not conservatives.

niyad

(130,299 posts)
9. They are NOT "radicals", the original meaning of which is to search for the "root"
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 01:23 PM
Mar 2025

("radis", latin), they are reactionaries. They offer no solutions, they knee-jerk react and destroy..

Aussie105

(7,706 posts)
63. The word 'Anarchist' comes to mind.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 11:01 PM
Mar 2025

'Anarchist', as in . . . plunder, destroy, burn it all down, have a good laugh about it all.
Then stand back, admire the ashes, and wait for someone - not you - to start the reconstruction.

IbogaProject

(5,683 posts)
86. That is the popular meaning but...
Mon Mar 17, 2025, 11:51 AM
Mar 2025

That was created in the 19th century to besmirch collectivists. The word simply means without hierarchy. Fascist or Despotic are the words for the GOP now. Anarchy dates to Plato's Republic at least.

noun: anarchy
1.
a state of disorder due to absence or nonrecognition of authority or other controlling systems.
2.
the organization of society on the basis of voluntary cooperation, without political institutions or hierarchical government; anarchism.


LiberalArkie

(19,449 posts)
82. I was always taught that conservatives were always "Status Quo". But the point they want to be in NOW is in the 1860's.
Mon Mar 17, 2025, 09:17 AM
Mar 2025
 

brush

(61,033 posts)
80. I don't get this thread. 'Consevative' IMO has always been a pejorative term.
Mon Mar 17, 2025, 08:44 AM
Mar 2025

Perhaps some here are confusing it with the word patriot — one who defends the Constitution and the rule of law.

Consservative in my book has always been associated with republicans, often racist, anti-LGBTQ+ ones.

 

Baron2024

(1,492 posts)
52. I Think That You Are Right
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 05:52 PM
Mar 2025

The MAGA Republicans are not conservatives. They are destroyers and counter revolutionaries, as you say. And anti-democratic authoritarians. Anyone that really loves America and democracy should oppose them. I am glad that this guy's relative became a Democrat. We need to welcome and encourage all Trump defectors if we are to dislodge Trump and his gang of criminals from power. If we can get 5 percent or 10 percent of them, we should have a strong majority.

Falcon101

(75 posts)
76. There is nothing Conservative about today's GOP or Trump
Mon Mar 17, 2025, 07:57 AM
Mar 2025

The MAGA people throw around the term "conservative" without having any idea of conservative principles. They certainly have not read any of the writing of past conservative thinkers. That is why current conservative writers (e.g. George Will) do no support today's GOP. That is why true conservatives (e.g. Romney, Cheney, etc) are no longer in office. The Dems are closer to conservative writings and beliefs (in both foreign and domestic policy) than the GOP.

Chi67

(1,279 posts)
29. This is not a little glimmer
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 02:40 PM
Mar 2025

Things like this are huge. And I'm sure there are a lot more than just this person.

republianmushroom

(22,134 posts)
2. He is not a democrat, he is a republican that got his ass handed
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 12:51 PM
Mar 2025

to him and cannot understand why. He didn't listen as trump told him how it would be.

hadEnuf

(3,558 posts)
35. There is that old saying
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 02:54 PM
Mar 2025

A Democrat is often a former Republican who has been fired for no reason.

orleans

(36,720 posts)
59. that *must* be an old saying because i'm getting old and i never heard that before.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 09:39 PM
Mar 2025

did you just make that up???

sop

(17,827 posts)
4. A neighbor told me he wouldn't vote Republican again because Trump is "un-American."
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 12:56 PM
Mar 2025

The guy's retired military, flies the American flag, drives a big truck, owns guns...all the usual conservative stuff. Says Trump is dangerous. People are coming around.

Eliot Rosewater

(34,282 posts)
15. Yes, and contrary to what another poster here said, who I will NOT respond to,
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 01:35 PM
Mar 2025

My nephew did not have anything bad happen to him yet because of the piece of shit, and I think he may have been one of us for longer than I knew as we dont talk often, he just recognizes a criminal and piece of shit when he sees one, etc.

I want to believe there are GOP who have a soul and heart and will do the same.



soldierant

(9,301 posts)
51. There certainly used to be some,
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 05:48 PM
Mar 2025

even after 1964 - but they have been getting manipulated for a long time. Nixon did it, Reagan did it, and OMG Atwater and Gingrich took it to a fine art. Even now, there's been Kinzinger.

Beartracks

(14,435 posts)
25. I hope he means that. The problem goes beyond just Trump; it truly is the GOP itself now. n/t
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 02:23 PM
Mar 2025

slightlv

(7,529 posts)
27. That's the next problem down the road...
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 02:32 PM
Mar 2025

once we get rid of trump and his administrative minions... including Musk and all trump's kids. Plain old repubs have sold out their party and they did so a long time ago... long before Reagan was in office, but it really kicked into high gear then. We've got a whole new generation of repubs coming of age in Congress who know no other way of being a "conservative" except for this current republican era. That's a hard mindset to shake and change. I hope with the repubs who ARE changing their mind about trump, that they see the rot goes all the way to the core and out to the farthest edges of conservatism. It'll be another couple of generations before the ship of state gets righted the correct way, and back on course with people guiding it who are true believers in the constitution.

Attilatheblond

(8,479 posts)
33. The 'new generation' of republicans think laws are for others and they can do anything they want anytime they want
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 02:52 PM
Mar 2025

They are sociopaths at best and join GOP just because they think that imbues them with stay out of jail magic. Kiss the ass of the guy in front of you and the guy behind you will kiss yours seems to be their faith.

Eliot Rosewater

(34,282 posts)
45. Good point, what jumped out at me was on Facebook in front of all of
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 04:47 PM
Mar 2025

his republican buddies and right wingers he said “I am now a democrat.” This is even more surprising and wonderful because he didn’t just limit it to despising Trump but is changing parties and everything that comes with that.

gab13by13

(31,535 posts)
5. The town halls were flipping the narrative
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 12:59 PM
Mar 2025

People were wising up and then Schumer kneecapped us.

LymphocyteLover

(9,518 posts)
38. Yeah, Schumer is really gross
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 03:48 PM
Mar 2025

"In this interview Schumer says he agrees with Trump’s decision to pull $400 million from Columbia. A university in his own state. And he’s unconcerned about the unlawful arrest of Mahmoud Khalil, one of his constituents."

In this interview Schumer says he agrees with Trump’s decision to pull 0 million from Columbia. A university in his own state. And he’s unconcerned about the unlawful arrest of Mahmoud Khalil, one of his constituents.

He is a traitor who needs to resign.

Marisa Kabas (@marisakabas.bsky.social) 2025-03-16T14:19:31.123Z

Attilatheblond

(8,479 posts)
41. Daughter read article about his 'book tour'. Was amazed at prices to attend!
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 03:53 PM
Mar 2025

More than $55 for the cheapest seat to attend in L.A. Hope he and his book bottom out and publisher cuts him short.

LymphocyteLover

(9,518 posts)
58. That's insane! What an asshole. Though I bet there are a bunch of people willing to pay
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 08:37 PM
Mar 2025

$55 to pay to go to get to scream at him.

Attilatheblond

(8,479 posts)
67. A bit over $55, can't recall exact amount. And that's for the cheap seats.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 11:48 PM
Mar 2025

Hope publisher cancels his book tour and takes all advances back, pulls the book and tells him to bug off

Falcon101

(75 posts)
77. So sick of politicians writing books.
Mon Mar 17, 2025, 08:02 AM
Mar 2025

Do people really read books by current politicians? I do not get it. Who really cares about what Schumer says in a book? To top it off, people really pay to attend book signings? I did not know pay for a book signing was a thing. Do people really have the money to piss away like that? Usually people have limited time to read books so of all the choices in reading materials, one would read a book by Schumer?

Attilatheblond

(8,479 posts)
84. Guessing it's a way to launder $. Various RW groups bulk buy books by GOP pols. Figure same is true for Vichey Schumer
Mon Mar 17, 2025, 10:41 AM
Mar 2025

Just read his book tour is being 're-scheduled' due to security concerns. Reckon that means some DEM senate leaders find the kitchen too hot these days. He is hiding from us now? Guess he knows we do not approve of handing Trump more power.

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,271 posts)
91. That is disingenuous
Mon Mar 17, 2025, 05:38 PM
Mar 2025

and misleading.

"I don't know all the details," "...it's a little premature to make a decision," does not equal he is "unconcerned."

"He is a traitor who needs to resign." Inflammatory bullshit.

LymphocyteLover

(9,518 posts)
95. He should be WAY more upset about those incidents than he expressed
Mon Mar 17, 2025, 08:41 PM
Mar 2025

and the traitor remark is fair in the context of the Dem party... Agree not fair in terms of America.

lindalou65

(381 posts)
7. I wish
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 01:01 PM
Mar 2025

That my oldest grandson who is 32 would wake up. He thinks Trump and Musk are doing everything legally and by the Constitution. No way I can change his mind. Maybe something will.

NutmegYankee

(16,469 posts)
10. Lots of Civil War reenactors are Democrats
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 01:26 PM
Mar 2025

The reenactor community is made of up people who love history. As one myself (I also do Rev War), I know many who are horrified by Trump.

Eliot Rosewater

(34,282 posts)
11. I apologize for implying that to be a civil reenactor you are probably a right winger or a Republican.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 01:30 PM
Mar 2025

Backseat Driver

(4,671 posts)
66. Dearest Hubbie once did research into Napoleonic and Civil War uniforms and hand-painted many
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 11:39 PM
Mar 2025

miniature soldiers in the custom of Willliam Britains. He used to get whole small sets from a family friend.

malaise

(293,906 posts)
14. This is the group that will destroy Slobfather Donvict and his MAGATs
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 01:34 PM
Mar 2025

Watch the veterans as well.

mommymarine2003

(352 posts)
16. My Marine veteran son became more conservative when he was in the Marines and from being around other veterans.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 01:37 PM
Mar 2025

My husband and I as well as my other two kids are very strong Democrats. It has been difficult sometimes around him when he tries to defend conservatives, and there have been moments when my husband wanted to disown him. However, he is a great person, and over my dead body are we going to let Trump destroy our family. I don't think my son voted for Trump. I think he might not have voted for anyone at the top this last election. He calls me almost every day on his way home from work. Last week, he wanted to know why they were not using the 25th amendment to get rid of Trump. There is hope.

JMCKUSICK

(5,344 posts)
17. I pray he has a circle of influence that will make him the first of many
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 01:49 PM
Mar 2025

in his group to come to their senses. This will be a fight of many one on one conversations that will challenge each of us.

PatSeg

(52,461 posts)
18. More dangerous than Trump
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 01:52 PM
Mar 2025

are the millions of people who have blindly supported him without question. Their deep-seated hatred of Democrats and liberals seems to surpass any misgivings they might have about Trump or his policies. Without the willful ignorance of the masses, there would be no President Trump. He is a symptom of a much bigger problem.

That said, I'm so glad that your nephew has seen the light. I am hopeful that there are many, many more, though I'm inclined to believe that some of them aren't going to be quick to admit they were wrong.

slightlv

(7,529 posts)
28. You nailed it on the head, AFAIC!
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 02:37 PM
Mar 2025

This "deep-seated hatred of Democrats and liberals" comes from decades of brainwashing... and not just in the usual manner. Repugs had to take actual words and slant/change their meanings to dig it in deeper into these brains. Take "Entitlement" for example. And entitlement is something to which you are guaranteed as a quality of service or of money paid in. But the repugs took it during the time of the "welfare queen" back in Reagan's day and started turning it around to were the meaning inferred "being entitled to something you DIDN'T earn". They should be jailed just for what they did (and are doing) to the English language! They say a picture is worth a thousand words... but those thousand words repeated over and over and over again, especially in the media, have more impact on maga's brains than a mere picture.

PatSeg

(52,461 posts)
37. Oh absolutely
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 03:27 PM
Mar 2025

Then Roger Ailes created Fox News and brought propaganda to an entirely new level. These clueless Trump supporters have been listening to Fox News and right-wing radio for many years and the brainwashing is pretty thorough.

I agree. The way republicans use language is disgraceful and the deceit is definitely intentional. Then it is reinforced by Fox News and other right-wing outlets.

Attilatheblond

(8,479 posts)
40. The 'welfare queen' jab was Reagan Republican's distracting all the union members they screwed from the real problem
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 03:49 PM
Mar 2025

Keep those of lesser logic occupied hating someone they are told is getting more than them and they are so easy to manipulate. The GOP and their 1% bosses expanding the distraction and aimed the hate are more and more until our 'civil society' is a thing of the past. Wrap it all in a flag, brazenly carry a cross and the cult is easy to feed poison.

We are no longer 'one nation'. God isn't involved, just the white patriarchy. And there sure as hell is no 'justice for all'.

slightlv

(7,529 posts)
93. Amen, Attila!
Mon Mar 17, 2025, 06:08 PM
Mar 2025

The old phrase we had back when we were young... "No Justice... No Peace!" should be issued loud and hard these days.

misanthrope

(9,419 posts)
92. For your example, they used linguistic judo
Mon Mar 17, 2025, 05:56 PM
Mar 2025

They took the word "entitlement" and used it against itself.

From Dictionary.com:
entitlement
[ en-tahy-tl-muhnt ]
noun
1. the act of giving, or the state of having, a title, right, or claim to something:
She supported legislation to improve the lot of the elderly, including the entitlement of senior citizens to vote by absentee ballot.

2. a provision, amount, etc., to which one is entitled; a right:
A good education is the moral entitlement of every child.
Temporary teachers receive most of the entitlements of permanent teachers, including annual salary, on a prorated basis.


3. a government program, such as Social Security or unemployment insurance, that provides a benefit to eligible participants, or the benefit provided by such a program:
Eligibility for this insurance program will be affected if there is also a Medicare entitlement.

4. the unjustified assumption that one has a right to certain advantages, preferential treatment, etc.:
"Their sense of entitlement—I don't want to call it arrogance—makes dealing with some people difficult,'' said the senator.

All of the definitions above are correct. Republicans knew the fourth of those listed had a negative connotation and were more than happy to build an automatic association with that specific meaning into the public consciousness. Dishonest, but effective.

slightlv

(7,529 posts)
94. And they do this will all language... English is one of the hardest
Mon Mar 17, 2025, 06:09 PM
Mar 2025

languages to learn, in the first place, spelling especially. But then to utterly twist a word to fit a single definition instead of the multiples? Well... if you know there are multiple definitions, you may have to critical thinking to ascertain which is correct in the context used! Oh, my!!! /snark

barbtries

(31,197 posts)
20. how i wish i would get a call like that
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 01:55 PM
Mar 2025

from my brother. sigh

good on him. took too long. do you know who he voted for?

 

stoned

(334 posts)
22. All the trump stuff
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 02:07 PM
Mar 2025

is swinging the pendulum to the complete opposite side, which is going to move the overton window yet again.

Once again, common sense, no politics, must prevail.

Salviati

(6,059 posts)
23. When one is presented with a convert like this, it's important to lock it in
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 02:18 PM
Mar 2025

Keep pointing out how all repblicans lie, and how they are all falling in line to support trump. Point out how trump is really just the culmination of the republican trajectory over the last 50 years. Make sure that the blame and anger lands on the whole republican party.

Make sure that they stay engaged, and recognize that the best hope for turning this ship around is by mobilizing the Democratic party, that while many of them may disappoint us, there are many who are fighting as hard as we are, and there can be more if we encourage those who will fight, and replace those who won't.

usonian

(23,993 posts)
26. Trump showed his true colors after pulling the wool.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 02:25 PM
Mar 2025

Wannabe dictator
Above the law
Grifter extraordinaire
Putin asslicker
Self-centered above all concern for others, meaning the US
Infatuated with Bond Villains
Willing to starve, torture and murder anyone.

We saw these all along. He massively pulled the wool. Fascist playbook. Hypnotized people are slow to realize that they are the fools.



And they will take him out, not us. Third time's a charm. Too bad they missed the Ides of March.

Martin68

(27,270 posts)
30. A good sign. If enough Republicans come to their senses, we would win big in the midterms and take back
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 02:43 PM
Mar 2025

control of the country.

Demsrule86

(71,516 posts)
32. It is possible the next elections could end up being a Roosevelt style realignment of the electorate.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 02:51 PM
Mar 2025

thinks are bad...recession or depression...who the hell knows...war in Canada, Mexico or Greenland? Maybe the European Union? It is scary shit.

wiggs

(8,718 posts)
36. Sounds like your nephew deserves kudos for changing his mind based on observation and
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 02:58 PM
Mar 2025

not all of a sudden because a family member or friend happens to have been impacted. Shows empathy beyond his circle of friends...unlike many goprs.

wryter2000

(47,940 posts)
39. My brother and his wife were third-party voters
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 03:49 PM
Mar 2025

Now Democrats. They even went to party events.

Eliot Rosewater

(34,282 posts)
49. I don't know if he did this time or not I'm assuming he did the first time
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 05:24 PM
Mar 2025

But I have not asked him yet, I plan on having a long phone conversation with him soon and learning much more.

luvallpeeps

(1,273 posts)
43. Hallelujah
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 04:31 PM
Mar 2025

Too bad it took being on the precipice, but I know people who still believe the DOGE cuts will pay off, so…

Eliot Rosewater

(34,282 posts)
50. My nephew just sent me this
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 05:48 PM
Mar 2025

His entire campaign this time sent me over the edge. Project 2025? Are you serious? Both my grandfather's fought against Hitler

orleans

(36,720 posts)
62. sounds like he is a fairly intelligent guy -- certainly not the type of person trump loves...
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 10:23 PM
Mar 2025

"i love the poorly educated" (because they don't see what a dim-witted criminal i really am)
-donnie the orange asshole trump

 

alarimer

(17,146 posts)
55. I hope this happens a lot
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 06:53 PM
Mar 2025

I don't really even care if people register as Dems (although in some states they have to to vote in the primary) so long as they vote against the Republicans next time.

Good for him.

calimary

(89,240 posts)
57. Proud to contribute the 250th rec!
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 08:34 PM
Mar 2025

Thanks for sharing this, Eliot! Testimonials like this are VERY encouraging and GREATLY appreciated!

hamsterjill

(17,147 posts)
60. So, to clarify, please - he voted for Trump in 2024? Or he figured Trump out before the election?
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 10:07 PM
Mar 2025

I am happy to see some MAGA's come out and state that they've figured Trump out; however, if they voted for him in 2024, I still have reservations about them. Are some of them seeing all of the backlash and deciding that they want to be on the right side of history now???

As I keep saying -

For any bone they throw us, smile and be grateful. But always, always, always, remember who these people are. Because they are simply fundamentally different than we are.

Aussie105

(7,706 posts)
64. Bumper sticker material?
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 11:04 PM
Mar 2025

'Do you like what Trump is doing to your life?
(If you voted for him, you are part of the problem.)'

Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

WinstonSmith4740

(3,420 posts)
79. One at a time...
Mon Mar 17, 2025, 08:42 AM
Mar 2025

And one step at a time. Welcome him into the light with open arms ...but now he needs to make the phone calls to whoever his Rep is, and tell his conversion story. When enough Republicans have the word "former" in front of their party name, their congressperson will listen up. They've got a pretty thin margin & can't lose anyone.

ecstatic

(35,026 posts)
81. The people we have to turn are the social media/podcast influencers
Mon Mar 17, 2025, 09:10 AM
Mar 2025

Like Rogan, etc. turn them and you instantly turn millions of people.

putin and rethugs understand that.

 

Paladin

(32,354 posts)
83. Grudging compliments to your nephew.
Mon Mar 17, 2025, 09:46 AM
Mar 2025

Wish he and a few million other voters had caught on earlier, in time to prevent our current catastrophe---but compliments to him, nonetheless. Hope to hell he remains on our side.

catbyte

(38,799 posts)
85. I guess that's good. Too bad the epiphany didn't come on November 4.
Mon Mar 17, 2025, 11:32 AM
Mar 2025

I hope it's not too late for all of us.

CrispyQ

(40,778 posts)
88. I'm so glad someone you care for has seen the error of their old views & even more, admitted it!
Mon Mar 17, 2025, 12:38 PM
Mar 2025

I have a relative I've always been fond of &I think he would consider himself an old time conservative. He was the first to bring up politics & we've exchanged a couple of emails where he said liberals are too emotional & are overreacting to "the 2025 project." Honestly, I don't think he'd heard of it until I asked him. Fast forward to after the election, for the first year in many, I didn't send him a birthday greeting I'm just so angry with anyone who voted for the orange POS. My relative wasn't a full on trumper like some others in my family, but he's a die hard repub & now I'm not sure you can really distinguish old time republicans from the cult anymore.

Again, glad your nephew came to his senses!

MyMission

(2,009 posts)
89. He is not alone!!!
Mon Mar 17, 2025, 03:11 PM
Mar 2025

A friend was at our local democratic HQ one day last week and reported a number of republicon's came to change their registration, 4 or 5 of them. They've outnumbered us here 60/40, but maybe that will change.
Glad to hear your nephew has joined us.

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