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Evolve Dammit

(21,499 posts) Sun Mar 16, 2025, 02:40 PM Mar 2025

France asking for return of Statue of Liberty. Don't blame them

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-statue-of-liberty/

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France asking for return of Statue of Liberty. Don't blame them (Original Post) Evolve Dammit Mar 2025 OP

Might as well; we're not using it. Ocelot II Mar 2025 #1

certainly no "huddled masses yearning to be free".... Evolve Dammit Mar 2025 #4

That would be us, unfortunately. Ocelot II Mar 2025 #5

Yeah. Good point Evolve Dammit Mar 2025 #14

So sad pattyloutwo Mar 2025 #2

I hope we do return it, because Magats will just want Drumph's face on it like Mt. Rushmore (bill introduced yesterday) Evolve Dammit Mar 2025 #3

Good. Passages Mar 2025 #6

Need to change the poem... Wounded Bear Mar 2025 #7

part of the article: Celerity Mar 2025 #8

I would think the Magats would be more than happy to let them have it. GoodRaisin Mar 2025 #9

It's not France HereForTheParty Mar 2025 #10

While I agree with the sentiment, no, "France" ISN'T asking for the return of the Statue of Liberty, Emrys Mar 2025 #11

Thank you. progressoid Mar 2025 #18

You're welcome, but in this case Raw Story's headline was accurate, the OP's blatantly edited version isn't. n/t Emrys Mar 2025 #20

That seems to be true in other places. Wonder Why Mar 2025 #29

No. I want this still here, to remind Americans (especially those that seem to have forgotten the SWBTATTReg Mar 2025 #12

no Afrocat Mar 2025 #13

Never. It is our forever symbol of hope. Not just freedom. We should remind them of that. ancianita Mar 2025 #15

Maybe we could just add some lipstick - and tears. dchill Mar 2025 #16

Trump would do it too Figarosmom Mar 2025 #17

Shady title lies. Why lie? It's not true. One person, not in the government Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2025 #19

To be fair though. progressoid Mar 2025 #21

Was thinking Rebl2 Mar 2025 #22

Trump would replace it with a gold statue of Ayn Rand n/t AntiFascist Mar 2025 #23

To French PM Glucksmann: ReRe Mar 2025 #24

The statue represented American values for a good part of its history and may do so again. 99MainSt Mar 2025 #25

It's been renamed: Statue of Ivanka JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2025 #26

Near the end of the article, he said "we're going to welcome them" Justice matters. Mar 2025 #27

Please... BurnDoubt Mar 2025 #28

Take it away France! BidenRocks Mar 2025 #30

Ocelot II

(129,076 posts)

1. Might as well; we're not using it.

Reply to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Sun Mar 16, 2025, 02:45 PM

Mar 2025

And we seem to have no use for the plaque on its base with the Emma Lazarus poem either, since we clearly don't want the tired or the poor any more - so France can have that, too.

Evolve Dammit

(21,499 posts)

4. certainly no "huddled masses yearning to be free"....

Reply to Ocelot II (Reply #1)

Sun Mar 16, 2025, 03:14 PM

Mar 2025

Ocelot II

(129,076 posts)

5. That would be us, unfortunately.

Reply to Evolve Dammit (Reply #4)

Sun Mar 16, 2025, 03:15 PM

Mar 2025

Evolve Dammit

(21,499 posts)

14. Yeah. Good point

Reply to Ocelot II (Reply #5)

Sun Mar 16, 2025, 04:03 PM

Mar 2025

pattyloutwo

(506 posts)

2. So sad

Reply to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Sun Mar 16, 2025, 02:59 PM

Mar 2025

And the MAGAs still think he’s wonderful. SOS for democracy

Evolve Dammit

(21,499 posts)

3. I hope we do return it, because Magats will just want Drumph's face on it like Mt. Rushmore (bill introduced yesterday)

Reply to pattyloutwo (Reply #2)

Sun Mar 16, 2025, 03:03 PM

Mar 2025

and spray painted gold.....
I really hate Nazis and I really hate Magats (hard to differentiate anymore)...

Passages

(3,986 posts)

6. Good.

Reply to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Sun Mar 16, 2025, 03:30 PM

Mar 2025

Wounded Bear

(63,837 posts)

7. Need to change the poem...

Reply to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Sun Mar 16, 2025, 03:32 PM

Mar 2025

to something that reads: "Now open to anybody rich enough to pay."

Celerity

(53,688 posts)

8. part of the article:

Reply to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Sun Mar 16, 2025, 03:32 PM

Mar 2025

France should take back the Statue of Liberty because the US no longer represents the values that led France to offer the statue, a French Euro-deputy said Sunday.

"Give us back the Statue of Liberty", centre-left politician Raphael Glucksmann said at a convention of his Place Publique centre-left movement.

"We're going to say to the Americans who have chosen to side with the tyrants, to the Americans who fired researchers for demanding scientific freedom: 'Give us back the Statue of Liberty,'" he told cheering supporters.

"'We gave it to you as a gift, but apparently you despise it. So it will be just fine here at home,'" he added.

GoodRaisin

(10,732 posts)

9. I would think the Magats would be more than happy to let them have it.

Reply to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Sun Mar 16, 2025, 03:34 PM

Mar 2025

HereForTheParty

(915 posts)

10. It's not France

Reply to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Sun Mar 16, 2025, 03:35 PM

Mar 2025

It's a French politician. Not that I'd blame them.

Emrys

(8,930 posts)

11. While I agree with the sentiment, no, "France" ISN'T asking for the return of the Statue of Liberty,

Reply to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Sun Mar 16, 2025, 03:41 PM

Mar 2025

and the actual headline on the linked article reads:

French deputy asks for return of Statue of Liberty

That's one French Member of the European Parliament, "centre-left politician Raphael Glucksmann", and this post title is blatant clickbait.

progressoid

(52,584 posts)

18. Thank you.

Reply to Emrys (Reply #11)

Sun Mar 16, 2025, 04:17 PM

Mar 2025

Rawstory tends to veer to the overly dramatic click-bait headlines.

Emrys

(8,930 posts)

20. You're welcome, but in this case Raw Story's headline was accurate, the OP's blatantly edited version isn't. n/t

Reply to progressoid (Reply #18)

Sun Mar 16, 2025, 04:26 PM

Mar 2025

Wonder Why

(6,552 posts)

29. That seems to be true in other places.

Reply to progressoid (Reply #18)

Sun Mar 16, 2025, 05:49 PM

Mar 2025

SWBTATTReg

(26,039 posts)

12. No. I want this still here, to remind Americans (especially those that seem to have forgotten the

Reply to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Sun Mar 16, 2025, 04:00 PM

Mar 2025

American spirit of freedom and individual freedoms that make this Country so great. It's certainly not what this orange moron does in his office, making a filthy mess of everything he touches. What makes this Country so great is us.

Plain and simple, it's us.

Afrocat

(2,808 posts)

13. no

Reply to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Sun Mar 16, 2025, 04:01 PM

Mar 2025

It's in NYC and it has and continues to stand for what Lady Liberty stands for.

ancianita

(42,896 posts)

15. Never. It is our forever symbol of hope. Not just freedom. We should remind them of that.

Reply to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Sun Mar 16, 2025, 04:04 PM

Mar 2025

dchill

(42,660 posts)

16. Maybe we could just add some lipstick - and tears.

Reply to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Sun Mar 16, 2025, 04:12 PM

Mar 2025

Figarosmom

(9,750 posts)

17. Trump would do it too

Reply to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Sun Mar 16, 2025, 04:15 PM

Mar 2025

I think.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)

19. Shady title lies. Why lie? It's not true. One person, not in the government

Reply to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Sun Mar 16, 2025, 04:20 PM

Mar 2025

Why do you put a fake title on your OP? It is false. It is not the truth.

progressoid

(52,584 posts)

21. To be fair though.

Reply to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Sun Mar 16, 2025, 04:27 PM

Mar 2025

Last edited Sun Mar 16, 2025, 05:04 PM - Edit history (1)

I doubt the French want pedastal with the added plaque:

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.

"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,

The French are very protective of whom they allow into their country.

Rebl2

(17,402 posts)

22. Was thinking

Reply to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Sun Mar 16, 2025, 04:29 PM

Mar 2025

the other day if France might take it back.

AntiFascist

(13,726 posts)

23. Trump would replace it with a gold statue of Ayn Rand n/t

Reply to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Sun Mar 16, 2025, 04:30 PM

Mar 2025

ReRe

(12,172 posts)

24. To French PM Glucksmann:

Reply to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Sun Mar 16, 2025, 04:44 PM

Mar 2025

Over my fucking dead body, buddy!

99MainSt

(70 posts)

25. The statue represented American values for a good part of its history and may do so again.

Reply to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Sun Mar 16, 2025, 04:55 PM

Mar 2025

I choose to optimistically assume this period of US history won't last long. Let's fight for the values Lady Liberty represents.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(24,594 posts)

26. It's been renamed: Statue of Ivanka

Reply to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Sun Mar 16, 2025, 04:58 PM

Mar 2025

Bow down as you pass by

Justice matters.

(9,390 posts)

27. Near the end of the article, he said "we're going to welcome them"

Reply to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Sun Mar 16, 2025, 05:10 PM

Mar 2025

That is a great idea, if the unduly-fired Scientists can't find new jobs in the US, I hope France will accomodate them, somewhere in France!

Great idea!

BurnDoubt

(1,472 posts)

28. Please...

Reply to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Sun Mar 16, 2025, 05:46 PM

Mar 2025

Save Her Before the Yahr Null Celebration!!!!!

BidenRocks

(2,773 posts)

30. Take it away France!

Reply to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Sun Mar 16, 2025, 06:05 PM

Mar 2025

Few will care.
Now if it were a statue of Jefferson Davis there would be protests and death threats.
Never again will I say a pledge of allegiance. Never to a dictator!
The national anthem is meaningless and the flag is flying upside down.
My Marine Corps service during the cold war was for nothing. We gave it away.
It's all the citizens (?) who are butt hurt and listen to the shyster.
Go ahead, what do you have to lose?
War Powers Act against America?
Take the Statue. We dishonor it.

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