Aside from the Tourist industry suffering, I think that Americans buying only necessities will have an impact. As soon as Trump was put into Office I’ve quit buying anything except what I need. Helps my saving too .

Bought some of Costco’s emergency food bins and am stocking up on non-perishables.

I don’t know what’s going to happen, and I’m not willing to let my kids starve if s#it really hits the fan.

I'm hunkering down at home this year.

Aside from chocolate, of course, but we're cutting back on that, too. Stay home and hunker down. Hey, maybe it'll help me drop a few pounds!

and coffee!

AND coffee as well. Especially in the morning. Used to keep me standing up straight when I worked the morning drive news shift.

and my sisters in Kentucky. At least I am still able to make those drives by myself. I am going to be a bit fearful of flying for a while. Meanwhile, I will accumulate miles on my airline cards in other ways

I enjoy a road trip on my own; my 2019 Rogue has a CD player so I can still play my favorite road music, plus I have the correct system to play podcasts etc from my phone.

Of course, Mr YD may go along with me, which will be fun. We have friends in Kentucky he has not seen in a long time.

I would not want to come here. It’s too dangerous.

I’m right there with you.

But that was before Trump's EO's and, as Digby so accurately put it, "Trump won't shut his trap".

I can't see regular people from other countries wanting to visit the US.

Most of our National Parks will be understaffed and possibly being converted to oil fields.

Walking in some of our iconic cities will come with the dangers of being whisked into a black van without reason.

Of course, if you are a wealthy billionaire from a country such as Saudi Arabia, you don't have to worry.

For one thing, we have tons of oil already and there is plenty of domestic production. Also, it costs a LOT to prospect for and complete a new wellsite and when we have plenty, there will not be enough profit to bother. In addition, there are already many leases acquired by Big Oil which have not been touched and may never be.

There are a lot of production sites which had slowed down and were producing a much smaller amount of oil. Many of these are being reworked using the horizontal drilling techniques which allow the rig to hit the secondary pool. These could not have been tapped previously because there has to be a certain amount of distance between rigs.

Actually, I am more worried about the woods/forests in the National Forests and on National Park Lands. That to me is likely to occur much sooner than oil. Some of the last original forests are on those properties.

Even if tfg doesn't lease the land to the timber companies we could become like the Amazon with rogue operators coming in and doing clear-cutting. No Park Service staff to stop them.

They're so cluelessly happy to have the fat liar back in the WH. I can't imagine blowing ANY $ now. I need to start putting some away for my granddaughter's college.

of last year, while there was still sanity in the country?

I should've been more specific. My bad

Too old, sadly.

Pretty sure Canadians will be boycotting tex-ASS and flori-DUH this year.

Just being stopped by one of those state troopers. No thanks.

After being on the flight from hell.

that is the quandary these fucking fascist repukes have put us in

FUCK EVERYONE who voted for that POS, you DISGRACED America

She has a book tour scheduled there, happening now to the end of the month. She's told me she would have cancelled, but she decided her readers mattered, and so she's now there.

My Son The Astronomer is almost done with his PhD. He's beginning to look at astronomy jobs out there. I keep on telling him to get a job in another country. I'd like it if he'd go somewhere that Mom can move to, but that's not the important part.

My oldest got his PhD in engineering in August and has a job that is federal-adjacent. Funding is a mix of public and private so it’s probably ok for now.

But he’s looked. He said that PhDs are in demand in New Zealand and if you get a job, the process to move there is like 2 months.

I think it’s totally worth looking at options, just in case.

He is, no surprise here, on the spectrum, so he's not as good about these things -- realizing he needs to get a job overseas, stuff like that -- as I wish he were.

I, the proud mom, think he's brilliant, likely to win a Nobel Prize eventually, you all get this. I have told him that if he does win the Nobel Prize, and I'm still alive, I get to go to the awards ceremony. And whether or not I'm around, he needs to say at some point, "I owe this all to my wonderful mother."

One is from Scotland, I was looking forward to seeing her, and she won't come. And she's not alone. A lot of people she knows have chosen not to come.

I had hoped to attend this year and signed up with them. I would LOVE to go, but that probably won't happen. Sigh.

However, you could PM me about other cons and various science fiction things, if you'd like

US. I am making this suggestion because re-entry to the US has now become riskier. If you meet up with a Customs agent who decides they have a problem with you, you may find yourself being detained for spurious reasons.

While I understand why people want to visit family and friends in their other country, I have long thought that wasn't always a good idea.

and I’m a white American. It was bad enough coming back in after 9/11. I saw things I wished I hadn’t, and was powerless to do anything about. Not putting myself through that again.
Anyway, Americans are not popular right now. Better to stay home in my tourist dependent neighborhood and spend my money locally. Since the tourists won’t be coming this year.

to wake so many American cretins the hell up. We'll see.

The bellweather will be advance bookings. Trips already paid for may well happen. I suspect (almost hope) is that new bookings decline drastically. But some vacation travel is to shop as our sales tax is much lower than the typical VAT and retail prices are lower than lots of Europe, so that demand will remain.

travel plans. In my specific case, I'm wanting to do a cross country trip on Amtrak, from New Mexico to Chicago, then on to Seattle, and after that to Los Angeles, and on the final leg, back to New Mexico.

I've taken Amtrak in the past and I absolutely love it.

For me, it will happen.

and loss of business for being American corporations. It is hurting all of us but it was their money and support that got him re-elected. They lost what was once a respectful reputation on the global commerce stage and are now the piranhas of global commerce.

Now they can look forward to the Trump rescissionm they bought.

Whether from outsiders visiting the dictatorship, or their subjects traveling to other countries.

There is a reason North Korea is called the hermit kingdom.

And, I've been to Canada several times myself as a tourist.
Tourism is a major industry all along the Canadian/US border. All that's in jeopardy now.
When you look along the length of the border, you're looking at a multi-billion dollar industry that may just crash this summer.
Not to mention the fact that Canadian tourists travel all the way down to the Gulf Coast in winter time.

The collapse of the tourist industry is just one aspect of the incredible shit storm the Trump administration is inflicting on both countries.
But what do Trump and Musk care? They're going to get all the money and power they could ever want.

I grew up north of Utica, and relatives rented a place in Lake George. We visited them there. Wonderful experience.

A simple pleasure that left me with so many fond memories.

This is a pretty darn red area of NY, too.

Spent 4 days in Central Vancouver Island a few weeks ago. Planning at least 2 trips to Victoria, and maybe one to either Whistler or Sun Peaks.

(On our last trip when Canada Customs/Immigration asked what the purpose of our visit was I told him, "To tour around Nanaimo and spend money in Canada." He waved us right through. We got through the border headed north in under 5 minutes. Coming back - it was exactly 2.5 HOURS in the backup to the border from 1km away, but only about 2 minutes when we finally got to the checkpoint.)

A priest(!) in a Nanaimo bookstore recommended it to me as a way of understanding that part of the country. Outstanding!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Curve_of_Time

and why isn't the tourism industry pushing back against this idiotic behavior? Our economy is losing money in many areas and we're heading for recession fast.

A drop of only 5% is magical thinking.

American brands demand/status/sales will also drop globally….this is blind spot of those that think making Canada and others trade enemies is a good idea…

Show some personal responsibility.

I for one would rather visit hell itself then dare to book a holiday in the US. Which is a pity as I used to live there for a while.

Something we do every 3 to 5 yrs. We've been paying on that for the past 2 years. Not sure how it's going to work out, but I told the family that this is probably the last big family vacation we're taking for awhile. We were looking forward to doing a cruise together the next time, but that next time might not be until we get rid of a lot of these 'royal commands' and the asshole-in-chief. With the exception of my MIL & SIL (both FL MAGAts), we all live within a 25min drive of each other.

of the USA. Good job, geniuses!

And the cruise industry will be taking a big hit. A lot of international travelers come to Florida for cruises and Disneyworld. And if you’re a senior who gets social security and have savings would you chance going on an international vacation?

it be any different Visiting here?

It's a long flight from the west coast. But taking a cruise is even longer (and more expensive.)

Enjoy your tourist-free life there, Cha!

(One of my ex's used to be a mucky-muck with American Hawaiian Cruises so I had a chance to spend some good time there. Unfortunately my northern European skin is now paying me back....)

from here to visit his dad.. who btw is a "fox screws Truther". Wonder how brainwashed he still is?

I hope Hawaii doesn't lose our Visitors.. it would be devasting. for all of us. We sure have a lot for Spring Break.

were packed today. People were bagging rays, lots of impromptu singing in the Montmarte Square. Pepple drinking at outdoor tables. Spring and summer will be huge money makers in France.

The joie-de-vivre is of the essence. Enjoy life while we can.

I'm NOT a tourist from another country, but I feel this shame rather intensely. If this is allowed to continue and we DON'T fight it and fight it HARD, it'll be no one's fault but ours if the economy suffers noticeably, and things start falling apart.
This:
“You’re looking at a much weaker economic engine than what otherwise would’ve been, not just because of tariffs, but the rhetoric and condescending tone around it.”

The BAD GUYS (ie: trump and friends) are hellbent on tearing it all down. WE have to do everything we can think of to make sure they can't.