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Nevilledog

(54,730 posts)
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 04:33 PM Mar 2025

Trump and Musk Are Running a Disinformation Campaign on Social Security

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2025/03/trump-musk-doge-disinformation-campaign-social-security/

Donald Trump keeps saying he has no intention of slashing Social Security, but…he and his mini-me, Elon Musk, won’t stop making outlandish claims about the program and appear to be setting the table for cuts that they will try to call something other than “cuts.”

Just about every time they mention the program and entitlement spending, they lie. Musk recently denigrated Social Security as a “Ponzi scheme.” It isn’t, but if it were, shouldn’t you whack away at it? And during an interview with Fox Business, he claimed there’s $500 to $700 billion in annual waste and fraud within entitlement spending—when there is no evidence of that (as Forbes notes). Moreover, he and Trump have falsely insisted there are a gazillion dead people on the rolls, implying checks are going out to ghosts.

This duo of deceit is doing all they can to raise doubts about the most popular and arguably the most important government program. Meanwhile, Musk and his dodgy DOGErs have moved to shitcan or force out thousands of employees at the Social Security Administration, perhaps as many as 10,000. (Good luck reaching someone there on the phone.) The downsizing that has already occurred at the agency has led to “a significant loss of expertise,” according to one former employee. If things go to hell at the SSA, older voters might get truly get pissed.

Unlike ideologues of the right who have long salivated at the thought of shrinking entitlements and privatizing Social Security, Trump realizes such a move could be political suicide. So he has repeatedly vowed not to reduce the program. But should his promise be believed? (That’s a rhetorical question.) After Musk uttered an inartful statement this week about eliminating purported waste and fraud within entitlement programs—which some people interpreted as an expression of his desire to kill these programs—the White House rushed out a press release declaring, “The Trump Administration will not cut Social Security, Medicare, or Medicaid benefits. President Trump himself has said it (over and over and over again).” But here’s the tell that the White House cannot be trusted on this front: The statement was full of lies about entitlement spending.

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Trump and Musk Are Running a Disinformation Campaign on Social Security (Original Post) Nevilledog Mar 2025 OP
They are hell bent on stealing it. dalton99a Mar 2025 #1
Be prepared to have to DEFEND your benefits, they ARE going to steal them, what will we do? Eliot Rosewater Mar 2025 #2
... Solly Mack Mar 2025 #3
My Cuban-American FIL (who voted for Harris) says we will need to fight to save America or lose it forever. OrlandoDem2 Mar 2025 #4
By cheating elders of their SS money, the G.O.P. will gain more tax cuts for the rich BoRaGard Mar 2025 #5
fb is full of Russian bots praising Eloon. louis-t Mar 2025 #6
How can they get their hands on the cash? flamingdem Mar 2025 #7

Eliot Rosewater

(34,282 posts)
2. Be prepared to have to DEFEND your benefits, they ARE going to steal them, what will we do?
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 04:38 PM
Mar 2025

I hope MILLIONS will go NUTS and STORM (no violence) the places these FASCISTS live and work. Nothing else will work.

How about being in their face ANYTIME they leave their house, at least 500 of us at all times being where they are. That might work.

Who has the money to coordinate this, also peaceful of course.

OrlandoDem2

(3,190 posts)
4. My Cuban-American FIL (who voted for Harris) says we will need to fight to save America or lose it forever.
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 04:42 PM
Mar 2025

He says that Cubans didn’t fight Castro hard enough.

We may need a French-style revolution.

History is at hand. I see troubled waters ahead. The world will be talking about America in the 2020s for a very very long time.

BoRaGard

(7,591 posts)
5. By cheating elders of their SS money, the G.O.P. will gain more tax cuts for the rich
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 04:43 PM
Mar 2025

This is the republicon wet dream.

louis-t

(24,578 posts)
6. fb is full of Russian bots praising Eloon.
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 04:50 PM
Mar 2025

They are sickening. I have been responding like a crazed person, insulting the bots, asking if being a Russian bot pays much, telling them they 'worship' him, insulting their fake AI photos of him with 12 kids that look like they are all the same age, yet claiming they are his kids and 'what a great family man he is', questioning their authenticity "If that's REALLY your name", etc.

flamingdem

(40,824 posts)
7. How can they get their hands on the cash?
Wed Mar 19, 2025, 04:58 PM
Mar 2025

I'm sure they'll delay the retirement age.

What a fricking pain that we can't apply online now.

Right when I'm getting ready to apply but to do it now (by March 31) would cost me
by making it just a bit too early. Dang.

Why is the end of online application accepted now? It was rejected last week.

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