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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums2024 election results: Trump 77 million, Harris 75 million, DID NOT VOTE 90 million!!!
Given that Trump started running for the presidency the day he left office in 2021 and that today he still has that 47%, we can safely assume that his voters are locked in. They're happy with him and MAGA. So, this idea that we can somehow reach out to them and flip them is preposterous.
Instead, look at that 90 million which represents 36% of the American electorate. Let's do an analysis as to why they didn't vote and what it will take to get them to vote. Has anyone done that? Is anyone looking into that? Is Gavin putting non-voters on his podcast? No.
We need a comprehensive effort to understand the non-voter. Is it voter suppression? Is it unhappiness over policy? Is it apathy? Is it difficulty with actual voting? Put some resources into that effort for crying out loud.
Because: THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND MAGA ARE ONE. WE ARE NEVER GOING TO FLIP MAGA VOTERS. NOT NOW. NOT IN THE FUTURE. NOT EVER. MAGA IS HERE TO STAY AND WILL LIVE ON LONG AFTER TRUMP.
Non-voters link: https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2024-11-15/how-many-people-didnt-vote-in-the-2024-election
ibegurpard
(17,075 posts)Are brain-dead.
Assuming that activating them is going to swing things against fascism is naive.
There's going to have to be an insane amount of effort to counter the right-wing propaganda that permeates every facet of public discourse before things change.
Yavin4
(37,182 posts)There could be several reasons why they didn't vote. You do know that voter suppression is real. You do know that just getting a photo ID is difficult for a lot of people. You do realize that it's difficult for some folks to get off work to vote.
I would start with the non-voters that have voted for Democrats in the past. Reach out to them. If successful, we can craft a message that counters right wing propaganda.
ibegurpard
(17,075 posts)But the vast majority of the 90 million that didn't vote are uninformed and disengaged. Again, it's going to take an enormous amount of work to counter the rightwing propaganda that pervades every inch of public discourse.
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Yavin4
(37,182 posts)The party needs to become a presence in their lives. Hold meetings. Attend rallies. Help them get the government assistance that they may need. Help them register to vote. Help them get to the polls.
IOW, instead of being a fundraising machine, the Democratic party needs to become a service oriented party. They need more people in the field helping every day Americans with their needs.
ibegurpard
(17,075 posts)But that's not the same thing as assuming we just need to get the 90 million that didn't vote to get out and vote.
Yavin4
(37,182 posts)But is there enough to take power away from MAGA? Yes.
Think. Again.
(22,456 posts)the_liberal_grandpa
(265 posts)they were thrown off the voting rolls and their votes were not counted.
https://www.gregpalast.com/the-voting-trickery-that-elected-trump/
Yavin4
(37,182 posts)This is what we should be doing instead of this reaching out bullshit.
themaguffin
(4,912 posts)Yavin4
(37,182 posts)Think. Again.
(22,456 posts)Trying to get a portion of the rightwing voteis a waste of time, money, and effort. Magats are a lost cause.
Dems need to start clearly showing to the masses what is at stake and why we are headed toward losin our Democracy to fascism.
We need to show the non-voters that this isn't a competition between Dems and republicans anymore, this is an effort to save our Democracy, we don't care what party they're registered with or if they're not registered with any party at all.
This fight is a fight for all Americans to join against those who are very close to takng our America away from all of us.
Bettie
(19,285 posts)they won't be as powerful. Some of them will go back to not voting, then there will be a vicious fight over who his successor is.
Cults fall apart when their leader dies and when this one goes...it will be ugly, but it will also fracture the magat base.
whopis01
(3,908 posts)It just can't happen soon enough.