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Eliot Rosewater

(34,282 posts)
Fri Mar 21, 2025, 04:06 PM Mar 2025

They are preparing us for stopping Social Security

https://www.alternet.org/trump-official-social-security/

I sure hope people stop saying they won’t do this and prepare for it and decide now what are we going to do about it?
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They are preparing us for stopping Social Security (Original Post) Eliot Rosewater Mar 2025 OP
they would crash the economy IMMEDIATELY if they did that Skittles Mar 2025 #1
That is so true but I am not sure they care. It seems to me that everything they are doing LoisB Mar 2025 #4
And... ? Dave says Mar 2025 #6
I didn't say they wouldn't do it Skittles Mar 2025 #10
They want seniors to lose their homes, so the PE firms can buy them up wholesale. TheBlackAdder Mar 2025 #16
Lutnick said yesterday he didn't think his 90+ MIL would miss her check. badhair77 Mar 2025 #2
Fucking monsters JanMichael Mar 2025 #3
"Trump Cabinet official doubts seniors would be upset over missed Social Security payments" William769 Mar 2025 #5
My 82 year old aunt... NCDem47 Mar 2025 #7
Families and friends of the senior............ Lovie777 Mar 2025 #8
They need to go watch Rambo C_U_L8R Mar 2025 #20
Are WE as clueless as everyone else? How the hell can MOST people on SS "prepare for it?" hlthe2b Mar 2025 #9
I asked the question that way because I am fucking sick and tired Eliot Rosewater Mar 2025 #23
Well, the stunts and comments made today--especially by the "Acting Director" of SS should drive home hlthe2b Mar 2025 #25
Ongoing GOP war on SS thought crime Mar 2025 #40
My so keeps saying they can't XanaDUer2 Mar 2025 #11
yeah well, we've been saying that about a lot of things Skittles Mar 2025 #12
I keep saying that XanaDUer2 Mar 2025 #15
well technically you are both correct Skittles Mar 2025 #17
True XanaDUer2 Mar 2025 #18
When they do this, I IMMEDIATELY quit working The Madcap Mar 2025 #13
Am I going to ignore the 45 years and over $700K my employers and I paid in with interest? I think not. TheBlackAdder Mar 2025 #14
Exactly! The Madcap Mar 2025 #19
Mass Uprising Baron2024 Mar 2025 #21
We are already planning our trip to DC. This is where We the People must stand up and say no. flashman13 Mar 2025 #22
Very happy to hear that, and you are doing something which is great Eliot Rosewater Mar 2025 #24
I've certainly considered what you have to say. Bad things could happen. flashman13 Mar 2025 #37
It has to spread kacekwl Mar 2025 #35
There will have to be mass demonstrations in every city and town. flashman13 Mar 2025 #36
It is all part of the psyop. rzemanfl Mar 2025 #26
Promoting mistrust thought crime Mar 2025 #39
This plan would require the private sector to be at least minimally rzemanfl Mar 2025 #44
If Social Security payments are stopped, GarColga Mar 2025 #27
I'll bet they don't forget to take it from my paycheck though. RandomNumbers Mar 2025 #28
Beware of people with nothing left to lose neverforget Mar 2025 #29
. . . dweller Mar 2025 #30
Next step after uprising: martial law. Coup complete. cbabe Mar 2025 #31
Will they cross the Rubicon? thought crime Mar 2025 #41
FWIW, I personally think the end game is privatization... anciano Mar 2025 #32
I understand but not anymore, they're just gonna steal it Eliot Rosewater Mar 2025 #38
Damage SS, then privatize thought crime Mar 2025 #42
If we're lucky they will do that, at least then we will get something but I think Eliot Rosewater Mar 2025 #45
I gather that none of those Republicans PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2025 #33
I hope someone or group with kacekwl Mar 2025 #34
Do not wait for the Democratic Party to stop this flamingdem Mar 2025 #43

LoisB

(12,374 posts)
4. That is so true but I am not sure they care. It seems to me that everything they are doing
Fri Mar 21, 2025, 04:18 PM
Mar 2025

is toward that end.

Dave says

(5,330 posts)
6. And... ?
Fri Mar 21, 2025, 04:20 PM
Mar 2025

That won't stop them. In fact, that is what may be intended. Then they swoop in and buy up assets at fire sale prices.

Skittles

(169,636 posts)
10. I didn't say they wouldn't do it
Fri Mar 21, 2025, 04:31 PM
Mar 2025

if there is ANYTHING that may wake up people out of their fucking cult, that may be it

badhair77

(5,082 posts)
2. Lutnick said yesterday he didn't think his 90+ MIL would miss her check.
Fri Mar 21, 2025, 04:16 PM
Mar 2025

It’s mentioned in your link but I saw it on video about 10 times yesterday. It also points out Lutnick paid $25 million cash for his latest house. He’s not even on the same planet as we peons. None of them are.

William769

(59,147 posts)
5. "Trump Cabinet official doubts seniors would be upset over missed Social Security payments"
Fri Mar 21, 2025, 04:18 PM
Mar 2025

Boy are they reading the room wrong.

NCDem47

(3,326 posts)
7. My 82 year old aunt...
Fri Mar 21, 2025, 04:25 PM
Mar 2025

Uses every cent for living expenses. Yeah, she has savings, but would burn it up in two years if SS went away.

C_U_L8R

(48,892 posts)
20. They need to go watch Rambo
Fri Mar 21, 2025, 05:09 PM
Mar 2025

Because stealing our retirements will create a very motivated 71 million person Rambo army. There is no place on earth they'll be able to hide without a walker or a cane being crammed up their asses.

hlthe2b

(112,835 posts)
9. Are WE as clueless as everyone else? How the hell can MOST people on SS "prepare for it?"
Fri Mar 21, 2025, 04:31 PM
Mar 2025

Those I see daily can barely scrape enough money for their monthly medications and skimp on food. So, do they staple their stomachs somehow so that they can eat less? Many already halve the medications prescribed for them--much to their detriment.

So, please tell me how to tell these people/patients/acquaintances to "prepare." I am at a total loss.

Eliot Rosewater

(34,282 posts)
23. I asked the question that way because I am fucking sick and tired
Fri Mar 21, 2025, 06:57 PM
Mar 2025

Of people here and elsewhere assuring me how they simply will never do this, and I’m trying to get those of us who could react in one way or another to wake the fuck up to the fact that they are going to do this and soon.

Having said that yes you are right, they are counting on most of us doing really nothing, losing our homes and then as one other person here said the vulture fucks will buy our homes at $.20 on the dollar.

hlthe2b

(112,835 posts)
25. Well, the stunts and comments made today--especially by the "Acting Director" of SS should drive home
Fri Mar 21, 2025, 07:39 PM
Mar 2025

the point. They are DEFINITELY intent on stealing our money and closing down the entire system. Our Dem Congresspeople know. But if any here are represented by R's you need to get every single person you know to call, snail-mail, and show up at their local offices. DEMAND they act and act NOW.

I really do not want to give voice to what is going to happen if we don't, but it won't end with foreclosures and devastated families. We will see morbidity and all-cause mortality rates skyrocket like we have never seen in peacetime. And yes, that includes death from hopelessness--something that the elderly patients I see are already experiencing.

thought crime

(1,229 posts)
40. Ongoing GOP war on SS
Fri Mar 21, 2025, 11:58 PM
Mar 2025

As a party, republicans have wanted to destroy Social Security since it was created. I think there must be some special GOP prize for the one who actually does it. Maybe that person will go to Republican Heaven (a special place in hell). If trump can destroy SS or privatize it (same thing) he will go down as the Greatest and Grandest republican president ever and probably the last one, too.

Skittles

(169,636 posts)
12. yeah well, we've been saying that about a lot of things
Fri Mar 21, 2025, 04:37 PM
Mar 2025

they seem to be doing anything they want

XanaDUer2

(15,769 posts)
15. I keep saying that
Fri Mar 21, 2025, 04:51 PM
Mar 2025

He'll be all technical about the reasons they can't end it and i say they seem to be doing everything they want w no one stopping them

Skittles

(169,636 posts)
17. well technically you are both correct
Fri Mar 21, 2025, 05:01 PM
Mar 2025

this kind of stuff SHOULDN'T be happening and WOULDN'T be happening if repukes, and some Dems, DID THEIR JOBS

The Madcap

(1,758 posts)
13. When they do this, I IMMEDIATELY quit working
Fri Mar 21, 2025, 04:38 PM
Mar 2025

I am going to get a taste of freedom. I DON'T CARE...they aren't taking that.

TheBlackAdder

(29,981 posts)
14. Am I going to ignore the 45 years and over $700K my employers and I paid in with interest? I think not.
Fri Mar 21, 2025, 04:49 PM
Mar 2025

That's my money and I'm not eating cat food because someone STEALS it from me.

The employer funds are part of an employee's total compensation package.

The Madcap

(1,758 posts)
19. Exactly!
Fri Mar 21, 2025, 05:09 PM
Mar 2025

I want it all NOW with the compounded interest. One TAX-FREE payment on demand.

Yeah, I know they won't do that, but if they're going to kill the program, they might as well refund everything all at once, preferably extracting a good bit from the billionaires.

flashman13

(2,040 posts)
22. We are already planning our trip to DC. This is where We the People must stand up and say no.
Fri Mar 21, 2025, 06:54 PM
Mar 2025

If you can physically and financially do it, you should be thinking about joining us. We will go and represent all of those that can't make it.

Eliot Rosewater

(34,282 posts)
24. Very happy to hear that, and you are doing something which is great
Fri Mar 21, 2025, 06:59 PM
Mar 2025

What I am trying to figure out is we know they don’t give a shit about protest, we know they will use the military to shoot us dead in the streets, so how do we do it is my question?

My cousin and I were just discussing on our daily walk how many in the military will be willing to shoot protesters and my estimate is half, the leadership has already been replaced with people who will not say no when the piece of shit orders them to shoot protesters.

flashman13

(2,040 posts)
37. I've certainly considered what you have to say. Bad things could happen.
Fri Mar 21, 2025, 09:18 PM
Mar 2025

You need to understand that going in.

flashman13

(2,040 posts)
36. There will have to be mass demonstrations in every city and town.
Fri Mar 21, 2025, 09:08 PM
Mar 2025

The grass roots ad hoc town halls that are happening across the country makes me think that can happen.

thought crime

(1,229 posts)
39. Promoting mistrust
Fri Mar 21, 2025, 11:41 PM
Mar 2025

It’s part of the long-time Republican strategy to hamstring government by making it unreliable and unfair. It’s designed to cause more mistrust of government programs. They are setting up privatization as a “better solution”. So when the private system (i.e. market) fails, as it often does, you can only blame yourself for your bad investment choices.

rzemanfl

(31,143 posts)
44. This plan would require the private sector to be at least minimally
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 10:02 AM
Mar 2025

competent. I have seen some privatizations happen and the results were another word that starts with "c"-clusterfucks. They hire the worst of the public sector people for less pay and benefits. The best and brightest go elsewhere. I understand the strategy and the lies they will tell. It will be a hard sell.

GarColga

(175 posts)
27. If Social Security payments are stopped,
Fri Mar 21, 2025, 07:50 PM
Mar 2025

within a couple months millions will become homeless, and the disappearance of billions of dollars from the economy will be a mega disaster. And what happens to the money already in the system?

thought crime

(1,229 posts)
41. Will they cross the Rubicon?
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 12:09 AM
Mar 2025

I think Plan 2025 includes increased use of the Insurrection Act (ironic). Trump is already asking the Supreme Court for special help to squash court actions. They are approaching the Rubicon.

anciano

(2,196 posts)
32. FWIW, I personally think the end game is privatization...
Fri Mar 21, 2025, 08:08 PM
Mar 2025

the same basic idea currently in process of transitioning Original Medicare participants to Medicare Advantage plans (although this is now optional, it may quite likely soon become mandatory). But we shall see.....


thought crime

(1,229 posts)
42. Damage SS, then privatize
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 12:13 AM
Mar 2025

Yes, they will damage and degrade SS, then offer privatization to "save" it.

Eliot Rosewater

(34,282 posts)
45. If we're lucky they will do that, at least then we will get something but I think
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 10:47 AM
Mar 2025

They’re just gonna take it all and not a goddamn thing we’ll be able to do about it other than, well that’s for another day 🤬

kacekwl

(8,887 posts)
34. I hope someone or group with
Fri Mar 21, 2025, 08:32 PM
Mar 2025

communication skills is preparing to bring us together for mass protests and good trouble if and when this happens. I am not on any social media but am more than ready to participated. We need to set up mass disruption in every state every county hopefully within 50 miles of each other so as many as possible can attend. We will need to hit the streets in mass. If they want a fight we have to give it to them.

flamingdem

(40,794 posts)
43. Do not wait for the Democratic Party to stop this
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 02:07 AM
Mar 2025

We have to do it. They have no power. It's up to us. If not now when?

50501 has protests planned for April 5th. Join them!

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