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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThey are preparing us for stopping Social Security
https://www.alternet.org/trump-official-social-security/I sure hope people stop saying they wont do this and prepare for it and decide now what are we going to do about it?
Skittles
(169,636 posts)seriously
LoisB
(12,374 posts)is toward that end.
Dave says
(5,330 posts)That won't stop them. In fact, that is what may be intended. Then they swoop in and buy up assets at fire sale prices.
Skittles
(169,636 posts)if there is ANYTHING that may wake up people out of their fucking cult, that may be it
TheBlackAdder
(29,981 posts)badhair77
(5,082 posts)Its mentioned in your link but I saw it on video about 10 times yesterday. It also points out Lutnick paid $25 million cash for his latest house. Hes not even on the same planet as we peons. None of them are.
JanMichael
(25,725 posts)William769
(59,147 posts)Boy are they reading the room wrong.
NCDem47
(3,326 posts)Uses every cent for living expenses. Yeah, she has savings, but would burn it up in two years if SS went away.
Lovie777
(21,783 posts)right now are not happy campers.
C_U_L8R
(48,892 posts)Because stealing our retirements will create a very motivated 71 million person Rambo army. There is no place on earth they'll be able to hide without a walker or a cane being crammed up their asses.
hlthe2b
(112,835 posts)Those I see daily can barely scrape enough money for their monthly medications and skimp on food. So, do they staple their stomachs somehow so that they can eat less? Many already halve the medications prescribed for them--much to their detriment.
So, please tell me how to tell these people/patients/acquaintances to "prepare." I am at a total loss.
Eliot Rosewater
(34,282 posts)Of people here and elsewhere assuring me how they simply will never do this, and Im trying to get those of us who could react in one way or another to wake the fuck up to the fact that they are going to do this and soon.
Having said that yes you are right, they are counting on most of us doing really nothing, losing our homes and then as one other person here said the vulture fucks will buy our homes at $.20 on the dollar.
hlthe2b
(112,835 posts)the point. They are DEFINITELY intent on stealing our money and closing down the entire system. Our Dem Congresspeople know. But if any here are represented by R's you need to get every single person you know to call, snail-mail, and show up at their local offices. DEMAND they act and act NOW.
I really do not want to give voice to what is going to happen if we don't, but it won't end with foreclosures and devastated families. We will see morbidity and all-cause mortality rates skyrocket like we have never seen in peacetime. And yes, that includes death from hopelessness--something that the elderly patients I see are already experiencing.
thought crime
(1,229 posts)As a party, republicans have wanted to destroy Social Security since it was created. I think there must be some special GOP prize for the one who actually does it. Maybe that person will go to Republican Heaven (a special place in hell). If trump can destroy SS or privatize it (same thing) he will go down as the Greatest and Grandest republican president ever and probably the last one, too.
XanaDUer2
(15,769 posts)Skittles
(169,636 posts)they seem to be doing anything they want
XanaDUer2
(15,769 posts)He'll be all technical about the reasons they can't end it and i say they seem to be doing everything they want w no one stopping them
Skittles
(169,636 posts)this kind of stuff SHOULDN'T be happening and WOULDN'T be happening if repukes, and some Dems, DID THEIR JOBS
The Madcap
(1,758 posts)I am going to get a taste of freedom. I DON'T CARE...they aren't taking that.
TheBlackAdder
(29,981 posts)That's my money and I'm not eating cat food because someone STEALS it from me.
The employer funds are part of an employee's total compensation package.
The Madcap
(1,758 posts)I want it all NOW with the compounded interest. One TAX-FREE payment on demand.
Yeah, I know they won't do that, but if they're going to kill the program, they might as well refund everything all at once, preferably extracting a good bit from the billionaires.
Baron2024
(1,492 posts)Mass uprising and a riot in DC that would make J6 look like a garden party.
flashman13
(2,040 posts)If you can physically and financially do it, you should be thinking about joining us. We will go and represent all of those that can't make it.
Eliot Rosewater
(34,282 posts)What I am trying to figure out is we know they dont give a shit about protest, we know they will use the military to shoot us dead in the streets, so how do we do it is my question?
My cousin and I were just discussing on our daily walk how many in the military will be willing to shoot protesters and my estimate is half, the leadership has already been replaced with people who will not say no when the piece of shit orders them to shoot protesters.
flashman13
(2,040 posts)You need to understand that going in.
kacekwl
(8,887 posts)further than D C . every state needs to be represented.
flashman13
(2,040 posts)The grass roots ad hoc town halls that are happening across the country makes me think that can happen.
rzemanfl
(31,143 posts)I don't know how it will play out.
thought crime
(1,229 posts)Its part of the long-time Republican strategy to hamstring government by making it unreliable and unfair. Its designed to cause more mistrust of government programs. They are setting up privatization as a better solution. So when the private system (i.e. market) fails, as it often does, you can only blame yourself for your bad investment choices.
rzemanfl
(31,143 posts)competent. I have seen some privatizations happen and the results were another word that starts with "c"-clusterfucks. They hire the worst of the public sector people for less pay and benefits. The best and brightest go elsewhere. I understand the strategy and the lies they will tell. It will be a hard sell.
GarColga
(175 posts)within a couple months millions will become homeless, and the disappearance of billions of dollars from the economy will be a mega disaster. And what happens to the money already in the system?
RandomNumbers
(19,070 posts)neverforget
(9,512 posts)Viva la revolution
dweller
(27,858 posts)
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cbabe
(6,218 posts)thought crime
(1,229 posts)I think Plan 2025 includes increased use of the Insurrection Act (ironic). Trump is already asking the Supreme Court for special help to squash court actions. They are approaching the Rubicon.
anciano
(2,196 posts)the same basic idea currently in process of transitioning Original Medicare participants to Medicare Advantage plans (although this is now optional, it may quite likely soon become mandatory). But we shall see.....
Eliot Rosewater
(34,282 posts)thought crime
(1,229 posts)Yes, they will damage and degrade SS, then offer privatization to "save" it.
Eliot Rosewater
(34,282 posts)Theyre just gonna take it all and not a goddamn thing well be able to do about it other than, well thats for another day 🤬
PoindexterOglethorpe
(28,459 posts)have a mother or grandmother who lives on SS.
kacekwl
(8,887 posts)communication skills is preparing to bring us together for mass protests and good trouble if and when this happens. I am not on any social media but am more than ready to participated. We need to set up mass disruption in every state every county hopefully within 50 miles of each other so as many as possible can attend. We will need to hit the streets in mass. If they want a fight we have to give it to them.
flamingdem
(40,794 posts)We have to do it. They have no power. It's up to us. If not now when?
50501 has protests planned for April 5th. Join them!