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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIt's already happening
It is not some mysterious force grabbing people off the street, it's the military and federal law enforcement agencies that are rounding up legal residents and other people and transporting them to secret prisons in a different country.
According to some reports people are being disappeared around the country. No warrant. No trial. Just sent off to a secret prison.
There is nothing more important than stopping that. They are trying to make us afraid. To not speak up. Fear is our enemy. Unity is our strength.
Mike 03
(18,690 posts)stories are being aggregated?
This is a worst nightmare realized situation if this is happening. First though we have to have actual names of people going missing and try to connect their (political) sentiments and activities with their disappearances. Fuck. It's going to be hard to convince the legacy media to take this seriously because it's so out of the realm of what we are used to here.
MadameButterfly
(3,743 posts)ZDU
(1,113 posts)DBoon
(24,710 posts)and somehow hope that if they don't touch this, they will be spared.
Fools
C_U_L8R
(48,851 posts)Because, you never know, we may be on somebody's list. They are that Gestapo.
flashman13
(2,009 posts)eLoon and the Muskrats are busy compiling the largest data base ever that they can feed into the AI monster they are creating. That is actually quite terrifying.
No use worrying. I've been on the list since 1969.
C_U_L8R
(48,851 posts)They can cram it up their keisters. That goes double for Big Balls too.
flashman13
(2,009 posts)Neema
(1,181 posts)hope I can get out of the country on my one way flight in the upcoming months. I guess I should wipe my phone before I go.
flashman13
(2,009 posts)And I couldn't afford to go if I wanted to. So it's man the barricades. Once more into the breech as they say.
Neema
(1,181 posts)I have an opportunity get the healthcare I need so I plan to take it, because I'm no use here if I'm incapacitated or dead. I will do what I can from afar, such as providing a landing spot for others.
flashman13
(2,009 posts)Go get healthy. Then you can carry on the fight.
Neema
(1,181 posts)Cirsium
(3,358 posts)We are not safe here or anywhere else. The data aggregators know us better than we know ourselves.
I remember when so many were saying about social media "I'm not worried. I have nothing to hide." It is too late now.
Just reading this article could put you in danger
They see everything you like or forward. Theyre aware of who you follow. They know you are reading this article. And they can, and will, use all of this against you.
This sea of data represents a tremendous threat in the best of times. But these ... are not the best of times. The combination of Donald Trump, Elon Musk, and big data tools that are absolutely excellent at spotting the most arcane connections means that all this personal data isn't a ticking bomb; it's a bomb in the process of exploding.
That explosion is made infinitely worse by the access Musk and his DOGE bros have been given to data through a series of government agencies. That information includes not just the obligations that Social Security and Medicare owe to you, but bank account and fiscal information of everyone who ever accepted a paymentincluding an income tax refundfrom the government.
The information that Trump and Musk have available to them is already being used against people who have spoken out against Trump. Like a French scientist denied access to the U.S. because he made social media posts against cutting funds for research. Or a U.K. punk band held in detention and sent back to London because they made statements critical of Trump. Or a Brown University professor deported despite a court order for expressing pro-Palestinian views. Or a Georgetown researcher detained because his wife, a former Al Jazeera journalist, is Palestinian American.
https://www.unchartedblue.com/just-reading-this-article-could-put-you-in-danger/
Baron2024
(1,492 posts)The agents that are doing this are following illegal orders and are engaged in criminal acts. They are complicit. If we the people ever get back into power, these people should be tried for their crimes, just like Nazis were after WW2. Everyone from Trump on down to individual cops and federal agents should be held to account.
Sky Jewels
(9,148 posts)and what did Biden do? Appointed Merrick Fucking Garland, who worked for the other team and had ZERO interest in preserving our democracy. I will never, ever understand why Biden and the so-called Democratic leadership didn't do an aggressive house cleaning of all levels of government.
And now we're starting down Putin Playbook Rd. If we ever regain power, I wonder if the Democrats will just twiddle their thumbs and pretend it's still the olden days like the Biden administration did.
SheltieLover
(76,736 posts)DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)have been re-opening Private prisons across the country............
surfered
(11,463 posts)the haul me off to the re-education camp.
NutmegYankee
(16,456 posts)They feed worms...
LymphocyteLover
(9,347 posts)Tickle
(4,131 posts)fear.
angrychair
(11,669 posts)That they flew a bunch of people, including known innocent people, to a torture prison in El Salvador?
That they are still conducting flights of people to Gitmo, as recently as today?
That they violently deported a young woman from the UK that just overstayed her visa, not a criminal, retuning her to the UK in full arm and leg shackles as it was described by the British press, "like she was Hannibal Lector".
All with no court order. No warrants. No trial. No hearing.
That they did those flights in direct contradiction to court orders?
Live in your fantasy world that this isn't happening or that it can't happen to you or people you care about. I'm sure that is what they thought too.
S/V Loner
(9,489 posts)as a tool to deal with dissent. Many to disappear into a gulag system and lost.
TheProle
(3,898 posts)Can you share a link?
Its not a commentary on your personal trustworthiness but, to me, a claim that there are reports that people are being disappeared (!) without any reference borders on irresponsibility.
angrychair
(11,669 posts)But sure I'll play secretary...should I get you a cup of coffee too?
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/families-search-for-loved-ones-after-hundreds-taken-on-u-s-immigration-flights-disappear-from-online-locator
Oopsie Daisy
(6,670 posts)kimbutgar
(26,792 posts)If you left the country on an overseas trip and returned could you be put on an arrest immediately list?
I wont be traveling overseas until this reign of terror is over.
HereForTheParty
(915 posts)or anything else without due process?
mucholderthandirt
(1,753 posts)But until our leaders step up and speak out, it will continue.
I'm afraid my neighbors may end up gone. They're nice people, three kids and one of the best dogs the size of a pony I've ever met. But they are not from here, and they are at risk. Out in my rural area we have a lot of immigrants, people from all over. We have a good population of the Hmong people, too.
spanone
(141,002 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(34,282 posts)Attilatheblond
(8,274 posts)It's worse than Epstein and his little island of little girls
milestogo
(22,554 posts)Elessar Zappa
(16,385 posts)Most of the people driving by give us thumbs up but a few asshole MAGAs blow coal in our faces and cuss us out. But I embrace their hatred.
ibegurpard
(17,074 posts)Are some of you people questioning this not paying attention???
Reports are EVERYWHERE!
https://www.cbsnews.com/video/mahmoud-khalils-wife-recounts-his-arrest-in-first-tv-interview/
https://www.npr.org/2025/03/21/nx-s1-5333886/families-of-deported-venezuelans-dispute-gang-claims-after-deportations-under-alien-enemies-act