General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMom of child dead from measles: "Don't do the shots," my other 4 kids were fine
MAR 20, 2025 1:26 PM
The parents of an unvaccinated 6-year-old girl who died of measles in Texas last month sat down for an interview with Children's Health Defense (CHD), the rabid anti-vaccine organization founded and run until recently by Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who is now US health secretary under the Trump administration.
The child's vaccine-preventable death marked the first measles fatality in the US in a decade. It's a tragedy that stands as a dark reminder of the dangers of the diseaseone of the most infectious known to humankindand the importance of the lifesaving vaccinations. But, in the interview, CHD wielded the loss of the young child as a means to downplay the deadly disease, attack the Measles, Mumps, and Rubella vaccine, tout unproven treatments, and spread misinformation.
The video interview, which was posted Monday, begins with the grieving parents, who are Mennonites, recounting their daughter's decline amid sobs: She came down with measles, developed the telltale rash, and then her fever kept climbing, and her breathing worsened. They took her to the emergency room and she was admitted to the hospital. Doctors found she had developed pneumonia, a known complication of measles that strikes about 1 in 20 children infected and is the most common cause of measles deaths in young children. Her condition deteriorated, she was moved to the intensive care unit, intubated, but continued to decline and died.
From there, the interview took a turn. The mother said that after the death, her other four children developed the disease. It "must have been petrifying," CHD's director of programming, Polly Tommey, who was leading the interview, said. "Yeah, it was. It was hard," the mother replied. But then, the family had the children treated by an alternative practitioner, Ben Edwards, who has grown popular in their West Texas community amid the ongoing measles outbreak. Edwards administers unproven treatments, including cod liver oil and the steroid budesonide, which is used to treat asthma and Crohn's disease.
Snip
https://arstechnica.com/health/2025/03/anti-vaccine-group-founded-by-rfk-jr-weaponizes-childs-measles-death/
Oopsie Daisy
(6,670 posts)Irish_Dem
(79,813 posts)LiberalArkie
(19,314 posts)another one"
Always a balancing act as to how many kids were needed for the farm work. Get too many and may not be able to feed everyone enough for the work. Too few and all the crops might be able to be harvested and sold to pay the store bill.
Irish_Dem
(79,813 posts)I come from a long line of dairy farmers on one side of my family.
If the parents had too many kids and could not afford to feed them,
they sent the boys out to work in lumber camps or other farms.
The girls got sent out to work in other homes.
Sometimes the kids got sent to the convent or seminary to become priests or nuns.
But the point is they didn't let the kids die on purpose.
LiberalArkie
(19,314 posts)My mom's mom died giving birth to her at 42. She was having a child every 3 years until my mom. My grandfather sent all the young ones to aunts and gave up on family life. Just work the land with the older kids.
Irish_Dem
(79,813 posts)One of my grandfathers was one of 22 kids.
His mother was pregnant all the time.
Maru Kitteh
(31,247 posts)sent out from the orphanage to foster families on farms. One year she contracted influenza. They just left her in a lean-to against the house and waited for her to die, or get back to work. That was in Iowa in the 1940s.
Somehow, after the unbridled horror of her childhood, my mom was the kindest, most compassionate and fundamentaly decent person you could know. She held no malice.
stoned
(334 posts)Irish_Dem
(79,813 posts)Gun violence is the leading cause of death for American kids.
The adults could change that but they don't want to.
Maru Kitteh
(31,247 posts)right?
Abolishinist
(2,887 posts)Et vous?
madaboutharry
(42,027 posts)It makes me think that she didn't like this poor girl. She also had the other children treated by a quack. Something is wrong with her.
Scrivener7
(58,324 posts)elleng
(141,926 posts)My daughters both received the shots, and did OK.
patphil
(8,731 posts)mucholderthandirt
(1,753 posts)Religion is the curse of humanity, along with whatever insanity plagues us. We fall for quacks, false profits, cults and just about any nonsense that comes along. Over and over and over again. Most people learned about Hitler, but here we are, with another maniac in charge, and that's not even including The Loon.
And it's not just America! It's all over, like a vicious cycle we just won't break. Another sixty years to beat it back, and then it will just happen all over again.
Butterflylady
(4,584 posts)And I'm still very protective of my 4 remaining children, even when the youngest is 50 yrs old. I'd give anything to have him back.
I just don't understand people like that.
Solly Mack
(96,336 posts)milestogo
(22,582 posts)Ineedamoment
(12 posts)The boy had contracted measles as a 7-month-old, when he was too young to be vaccinated. "He got the virus from a child in his neighborhood who was unvaccinated," says Cvijanovich, who now practices in New Mexico.
It was a relatively mild case of measles, and the infant recovered. She says he grew up to be a healthy, bright kid an honor student.
Then in middle school, he started to develop troubling symptoms. "He started getting lost between classes, lost like he couldn't find what class to go to next," Cvijanovich says.
Worried, the teen's parents took him to a series of doctors to figure out what was wrong, until a pediatric neurologist finally suspected a condition called subacute sclerosing panencephalitis, or SSPE. It's a degenerative neurological condition that typically develops seven to 10 years after a measles infection. It is almost always fatal. Cvijanovich was part of the hospital team that confirmed the diagnosis.
https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2025/03/17/nx-s1-5328765/measles-outbreak-health-risk
Comrade Citizen
(344 posts)They don't trust the "english" science, yet they obey an english quack "alternative practitioner".
That quack doesn't care about them.
They are taught to not harm others, and then make sure to harm others by not vaccinating.
Texas has attracted every insane lunatic in the world to come here.
central scrutinizer
(12,648 posts)When childhood diseases were common. At a family reunion, I discovered there was one branch of the family tree that had nine kids. Only two survived beyond puberty.
chia
(2,751 posts)Paladin
(32,286 posts)Criminal-level negligence on their part. And thanks for absolutely NOTHING, Bobby Kennedy Jr.
Response to Paladin (Reply #19)
Name removed Message auto-removed
redwitch
(15,234 posts)Tell us more.
Emile
(40,616 posts)the parents were irresponsible. The children should be in protective custody and the parents locked up for the death of their child.
mucholderthandirt
(1,753 posts)Emile
(40,616 posts)child.dead. Put me on that jury, I know how I would vote.
Bettie
(19,283 posts)a truly loving mother....
I'd do anything for my kids. I vaccinated them because I love them.
My middle son is a pharmacy tech and he regularly reminds us of vaccines we should get.
Because he loves us enough to want us to live.
Norbert
(7,564 posts)Meowmee
(9,212 posts)Normal parents would be forever haunted that they caused their child's death and failed to protect him properly. Not say we have 4 other children etc.
marble falls
(71,087 posts)... for the the surviving four?
?width=3200&height=1680&fit=crop
Dr Ben Edwards at his graduation commencement
It's spread to Arizona, too.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/ejmontini/2015/06/11/arizona-legislature-gov-doug-ducey-aclu-lawsuit-medical-abortion/71014634/
BannonsLiver
(20,277 posts)bif
(26,672 posts)That's comforting.
Johonny
(25,461 posts)diseases, but don't take the shot. She would end up tar and feathered. People have no sense of the modern world compared to the past.
Initech
(107,433 posts)Passages
(3,986 posts)The ignorance is exceptional or common today?
GenThePerservering
(3,146 posts)snip the guy and stop the madness.
Intractable
(1,640 posts)In case of a total system failure, just replace!
LudwigPastorius
(14,167 posts)How is it that failing to vaccinate your children because...God....isn't?