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Well this explains a lot. (Original Post) Woodwizard Mar 2025 OP
Not surprised in the least chicoescuela Mar 2025 #1
And TSF reads at a 4th. grade level. sinkingfeeling Mar 2025 #2
More like 4-year-old level. niyad Mar 2025 #4
From Literacy Inc. madaboutharry Mar 2025 #3
Those stats are appalling, but not surprising. What passes for an "educational niyad Mar 2025 #10
You could read it....... Woodwizard Mar 2025 #12
I had to stop using our local public library Bettie Mar 2025 #13
When the Dept of Education is drowned in a bathtub, we won't have NO Stinking Literacy Data. Bread and Circuses Mar 2025 #5
When I moved south a few decades ago... Think. Again. Mar 2025 #6
LOL Meowmee Mar 2025 #8
That has nothing to do with it. valleyrogue Mar 2025 #7
The criticism is about the expectations of education in the U.S. Think. Again. Mar 2025 #9
There are outliers. Woodwizard Mar 2025 #11
This pretty commonly known among writers. We often pass our work through a test for reading level. mucholderthandirt Mar 2025 #14

madaboutharry

(42,027 posts)
3. From Literacy Inc.
Fri Mar 21, 2025, 09:59 PM
Mar 2025
https://literacyinc.com/about-us/

15% of the United States population has specific reading disorders.
46% of American adults cannot understand the labels on their pharmaceutical prescriptions.
56% of young people claim they read fewer than 10 books a year.
50% of U.S. adults are unable to read an eighth grade level book.
33% of U.S. high school graduates never read a book after high school.
80% of U.S. families have not purchased a book this year.
50% of books started are never read to completion.
70% of adults have not been in a bookstore in the past five years.
15% of U.S. students are dyslexic.

These stats are sad.

niyad

(129,553 posts)
10. Those stats are appalling, but not surprising. What passes for an "educational
Fri Mar 21, 2025, 10:41 PM
Mar 2025

system" in this country has been deliberately, intentionlly, dumbing it down since at least since the 1960's, when I became aware of it. In second grade, I was put in an 8th grade reading class, much to the annoyance of said 8th graders. I have been a bit behind on my reading. .only about 60 books since Jan 1. .some days I just watched movies because I really had to take a break.

Does that article talk about library use, and the threat to public libraries?

Bettie

(19,283 posts)
13. I had to stop using our local public library
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 08:10 AM
Mar 2025

because every book I checked out smelled so strongly of cigarette smoke that I couldn't stand even touching them.

 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
6. When I moved south a few decades ago...
Fri Mar 21, 2025, 10:34 PM
Mar 2025

....the first thing I did was pick up a local newspaper to see the headline: "Litracy Council Meeting Thursday" (sic) .

Edit to add: That isn't a joke, it actually happened, I wish I saved that paper.

Meowmee

(9,212 posts)
8. LOL
Fri Mar 21, 2025, 10:37 PM
Mar 2025

Many years ago, my father was laughing after going to a parent teachers meeting where my brother's teacher talked about teaching, and this was pronunciation, not spelling, "enagy" to the children. 😹 My mother tried to stop him from laughing too much while they were there. * Actually now remembered she also wrote it on the black board as enegy!!!

She later became engaged to the gym teacher whose main concern was that all students wear white socks and sneakers etc. A real fascist type. I think it was the teacher above who sent my brother, easily the brightest child in the school, out in the hallway to clean the walls because she didn't like something he said.

valleyrogue

(2,586 posts)
7. That has nothing to do with it.
Fri Mar 21, 2025, 10:34 PM
Mar 2025

I know lots of college graduates who are insufferable Trump supporters.

Stop blaming schools for parental upbringing and for many having a certain religious outlook.

Tired of the school-bashing b.s.

 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
9. The criticism is about the expectations of education in the U.S.
Fri Mar 21, 2025, 10:39 PM
Mar 2025

...not about the U.S. education system in general.

If you know college graduates who voted for trump, you should see the problem right there.

Woodwizard

(1,263 posts)
11. There are outliers.
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 06:33 AM
Mar 2025

Nothing is absolute. I have a cousin who went to college to be a history teacher he voted for trump.
Just an observation of the abysmal literacy rate of the US. Should we pretend it does not exist?

People that do not read are getting all their information from audio or video. Which on average skims the surface of the subject or is outright propaganda.

mucholderthandirt

(1,753 posts)
14. This pretty commonly known among writers. We often pass our work through a test for reading level.
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 10:29 AM
Mar 2025

Generally we want to come out no higher than seventh grade, as most people can comfortably read that high, but no higher. This means leaving out the "fancy" words and using less-complex sentence structure.

Even those with high education levels tend to not read that well. Sad commentary on the world, isn't it?

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