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canetoad

(20,233 posts) Sat Mar 22, 2025, 03:49 AM Mar 2025

Charles lll may have done something very cunning

In inviting trump, and by extension the USA to become an associate nation country of the Commonwealth of Nations.

If he accepts, being the filthly little snob that he is, the USA will be bound by the membership criteria applied to all other member countries and there are rules: compliance with Commonwealth values, principles and priorities as set out in the Harare Commonwealth Declaration of 1991; and that it should accept Commonwealth norms and conventions.

https://www.commonwealthofnations.org/commonwealth/commonwealth-membership/membership-criteria/

Another interesting read is the Commonwealth Charter https://thecommonwealth.org/charter which states:

Affirming that the special strength of the Commonwealth lies in the combination of our diversity and our shared inheritance in language, culture and the rule of law; and bound together by shared history and tradition; by respect for all states and peoples; by shared values and principles and by concern for the vulnerable,

Being an associate commonwealth nation absolutely precludes agression against another c'wealth country - ie Canada who should be safe for now. How is he going to spin his threats of war and retain his coveted Commonwealth associate membership?

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Charles lll may have done something very cunning (Original Post) canetoad Mar 2025 OP

He has something in mind. Blue Full Moon Mar 2025 #1

Trump has never subordinated himself to the principles of others. no_hypocrisy Mar 2025 #2

President Psychopath... littlemissmartypants Mar 2025 #3

The UK cannot be this stupid. To believe Trump will follow the rules. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #4

I think you maybe meant to write "King Charles cannot be this stupid. To believe Trump will follow the rules." Emrys Mar 2025 #15

NO. Charles cannot extend such an invitation with the permission of the UK government. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #16

A similar offer was slated in Trump's first term Emrys Mar 2025 #17

"Screw that Commonwealth shit. I'm into Specialwealth." - King Krasnov (R - Felon) BoRaGard Mar 2025 #5

"I would join the Commonwealth TxGuitar Mar 2025 #18

trump doesn't respect our Constitution. William769 Mar 2025 #6

The Commonwealth Charter includes the word "diversity" Martin Eden Mar 2025 #7

Rules that Trump must follow? writerJT Mar 2025 #8

So that's how Trump got it in his head that King Charles wants us to be part of the British Empire. Vinca Mar 2025 #9

TSF can nullify any treaty, pact, standard, or rule he wants, don't ya know? sinkingfeeling Mar 2025 #10

The British love a cunning plan SocialDemocrat61 Mar 2025 #11

trmp has zero regard for 'rules'. ZERO. spanone Mar 2025 #12

Trump will try to make England the 53rd state. milestogo Mar 2025 #13

"I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member." - Marx n/t Emrys Mar 2025 #14

Blue Full Moon

(3,171 posts)

1. He has something in mind.

Reply to canetoad (Original post)

Sat Mar 22, 2025, 04:24 AM

Mar 2025

no_hypocrisy

(54,293 posts)

2. Trump has never subordinated himself to the principles of others.

Reply to canetoad (Original post)

Sat Mar 22, 2025, 04:52 AM

Mar 2025

Save for Project 2025.

My guess is that he would attempt a hostile takeover of the Commonwealth of Nations.

littlemissmartypants

(31,665 posts)

3. President Psychopath...

Reply to canetoad (Original post)

Sat Mar 22, 2025, 05:00 AM

Mar 2025

Will join the club and ignore the rules. The King is very naive if he believes otherwise.

Irish_Dem

(79,856 posts)

4. The UK cannot be this stupid. To believe Trump will follow the rules.

Reply to canetoad (Original post)

Sat Mar 22, 2025, 05:31 AM

Mar 2025

Last edited Sat Mar 22, 2025, 09:06 AM - Edit history (1)

Trump will destroy the commonwealth in a heartbeat.

UK is playing with fire.

Charles cannot extend this invitation without the approval of the UK government.

Emrys

(8,930 posts)

15. I think you maybe meant to write "King Charles cannot be this stupid. To believe Trump will follow the rules."

Reply to Irish_Dem (Reply #4)

Sat Mar 22, 2025, 09:00 AM

Mar 2025

Nobody asked us lowly British subjects about this, and I doubt any of our MPs have been consulted.

Irish_Dem

(79,856 posts)

16. NO. Charles cannot extend such an invitation with the permission of the UK government.

Reply to Emrys (Reply #15)

Sat Mar 22, 2025, 09:09 AM

Mar 2025

Charles is only head of state in a ceremonial sense.
He is not involved in day to day politics.
He has soft power but cannot invite other countries into the commonwealth.

If he has breached rock solid protocol he is way out of line.
And the PM may have a word with him.

Emrys

(8,930 posts)

17. A similar offer was slated in Trump's first term

Reply to Irish_Dem (Reply #16)

Sat Mar 22, 2025, 09:34 AM

Mar 2025

It was the brainchild of an NGO, the Royal Commonwealth Society, not elected members, and it was delivered by Nigel Farage, not even an MP at that time.

When the Royal Commonwealth Society wrote to Trump in 2017, the letter was delivered by Nigel Farage, who was the first British politician to meet Trump after his 2016 election victory.

The society's then director, Michael Lake, said opening a Commonwealth branch in the US would help the two nations "find imaginative ways" to work together.

https://www.gbnews.com/royal/king-charles-usa-commonwealth-donald-trump-state-visit

(Note GB News is a right-wing UK network, and very jingoistic when it suits it.)

It's been described as a "secret offer", so it's hard to see how it could be subject to any democratic input. (The Sun is also generally a right-wing organ.)

Charles is Head of the Commonwealth, a voluntary association of countries, and not directly accountable to parliament. All that's being reported so far is kite-flying from the Royal Commonwealth Society via a report of rumours of a secret plan from a Daily Mail columnist, Richard Eden, so it evidently hasn't been subject to parliamentary oversight.

BoRaGard

(7,591 posts)

5. "Screw that Commonwealth shit. I'm into Specialwealth." - King Krasnov (R - Felon)

Reply to canetoad (Original post)

Sat Mar 22, 2025, 05:45 AM

Mar 2025

"Only submissive white male G.O.P. supplicants get Specialwealth. Ha ha, suckers and losers."

- King Krasnov (R)

TxGuitar

(4,332 posts)

18. "I would join the Commonwealth

Reply to BoRaGard (Reply #5)

Sat Mar 22, 2025, 09:45 AM

Mar 2025

But it’s much too common for me” 😀
Paraphrase of Commonwealth an unreleased Beatles song from the Let It Be sessions.

William769

(59,147 posts)

6. trump doesn't respect our Constitution.

Reply to canetoad (Original post)

Sat Mar 22, 2025, 06:23 AM

Mar 2025

You think, he would respect this? Good luck with that.

Martin Eden

(15,363 posts)

7. The Commonwealth Charter includes the word "diversity"

Reply to canetoad (Original post)

Sat Mar 22, 2025, 06:34 AM

Mar 2025

Trump is going to sign on to that, and comply with rules?

writerJT

(467 posts)

8. Rules that Trump must follow?

Reply to canetoad (Original post)

Sat Mar 22, 2025, 06:39 AM

Mar 2025

Brilliant! Why didn’t we think of that before? I mean, if there’s anything he’s famous for, it’s definitely his unwavering commitment to following rules.