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Donkees

(33,399 posts)
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 04:55 AM Mar 2025

Photos: AOC and I had 34,000 people come out in Denver





Today, AOC and I had 34,000 people come out in Denver.

It is the largest rally that I have ever had.

And it tells me that the American people will not allow Trump to move us into oligarchy and authoritarianism.

We will fight back. We will win.

9:13 PM · Mar 21, 2025

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Photos: AOC and I had 34,000 people come out in Denver (Original Post) Donkees Mar 2025 OP
''Biggest. Bernie. Event. EVER! Thank you COLORADO!'' Donkees Mar 2025 #1
The Dynamic Duo draws enthusiasm. Emile Mar 2025 #2
Fantastic! Bumbles Mar 2025 #3
I'm hoping kkmarie Mar 2025 #4
This is what fighting back looks like 😀 LSparkle Mar 2025 #5
Schumer take notes, this is leadership. Emile Mar 2025 #6
Seriously! Schumer is hanging out in the middle of street ... Sky Jewels Mar 2025 #18
Right? Ruby the Liberal Mar 2025 #36
People will remember who held these rallies... Joinfortmill Mar 2025 #7
I take issue with his claims and insinuations that "both parties are the same" * Oopsie Daisy Mar 2025 #8
Sinema and Manchin. Passages Mar 2025 #12
We were very fortunate to have them. Their presence gave us control of the Senate. Oopsie Daisy Mar 2025 #13
No. Passages Mar 2025 #15
Undoubtedly, the Citizens United decision stands as a pivotal moment that unleashed significant challenges. Oopsie Daisy Mar 2025 #16
Human beings can rationalize anything. Passages Mar 2025 #17
They can also choose to ignore reality and put themselves at a strategic disadvantage * Oopsie Daisy Mar 2025 #23
Can you provide a link or citation to any statement by Sanders that both parties are the same? Mysterian Mar 2025 #19
Yes. Here's something recent. Oopsie Daisy Mar 2025 #22
Thanks Mysterian Mar 2025 #25
No. Those are not "truths" at all. He's attacking the party from the outside. Oopsie Daisy Mar 2025 #26
No, blaming others for Democratic losses is a roadmap to continued failure Mysterian Mar 2025 #30
Lying about the Democratic party and * Oopsie Daisy Mar 2025 #31
Did Sanders call Democrats corrupt, spineless cowards? When? Where? Mysterian Mar 2025 #32
Yes, they did not vote because they've been fed the lie that "both parties are the same" and * Oopsie Daisy Mar 2025 #33
So when and where did Sanders call Democrats spineless cowards? Mysterian Mar 2025 #37
I take issue with Democrats voting with the Republican majority. Bernie Emile Mar 2025 #9
Yes, yes, yes, fucking-A, yes. Magoo48 Mar 2025 #10
If only we would have elections in the future. Glamrock Mar 2025 #11
We beat the King of England and the most powerful empire in the world Mysterian Mar 2025 #20
This is what true, progressive democrats looks like. LilElf70 Mar 2025 #14
We should have been having this discussion in 2016 after Clinton lost to Trump. jalan48 Mar 2025 #21
Let me say this about that ... usonian Mar 2025 #24
Bernie is paving the way for AOC. Voltaire2 Mar 2025 #27
I went, rode the bus down and back, felt good being surround by nice people. Lots of energy. nt Hotler Mar 2025 #28
Integrity, human decency, courage, and hope are on display in those photos. Ping Tung Mar 2025 #29
I will always believe we were cheated... mike_c Mar 2025 #34
This is fighting back pinkstarburst Mar 2025 #35

kkmarie

(337 posts)
4. I'm hoping
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 06:19 AM
Mar 2025

I'm hoping that Comrade Krasnov does not declare Marshall Law. This tour is drawing big crowds. Bigger crowds than Krasnov was drawing. Krasnov will be jealous of the crowd size and mad about the way they talk about him. This could turn dangerous.

Emile

(40,572 posts)
6. Schumer take notes, this is leadership.
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 06:45 AM
Mar 2025

Stop voting with the Republican majority and have town halls.

 

Sky Jewels

(9,148 posts)
18. Seriously! Schumer is hanging out in the middle of street ...
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 09:17 AM
Mar 2025

with all the road kill.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,599 posts)
36. Right?
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 06:20 PM
Mar 2025

I saw where he cancelled his book tour our of fear for his safety.

No way he's going to do a town hall anywhere near his constituents.

He is the wrong man for the job right now.

Joinfortmill

(20,037 posts)
7. People will remember who held these rallies...
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 07:20 AM
Mar 2025

And who did not. And, they will vote accordingly. Wake up DEM legislators!

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
8. I take issue with his claims and insinuations that "both parties are the same" *
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 07:20 AM
Mar 2025

* and that Democrats are corrupt. It's untrue and it's not helping. This type of talk only depresses turnout for Democrats and makes people believe that "Independent" or third-parties are the only hope for our country. The obvious outcome of this type of thinking and false narrative is that the liberal/progressive vote is SPLIT and this always benefits the GOP. Why would anyone do or say things that harm the Democratic party, that suppress the vote for Democrats, which in turn ends up helping the GOP? His message needs to be focused SOLELY and EXCLUSIVELY against the GOP and against Trump.

Passages

(3,986 posts)
12. Sinema and Manchin.
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 07:54 AM
Mar 2025

There are other examples of Democrats undercutting/destroying Biden's agenda.

Citizens United ruins both parties if we let it.

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
13. We were very fortunate to have them. Their presence gave us control of the Senate.
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 08:01 AM
Mar 2025

Without them, it would have been even worse. Count your blessings. Also, two unpopular (but elected) politicians do not define the entire Democratic party. Why would anyone say or do things that suppress the vote for Democrats?

>> Citizens United ruins both parties if we let it.

Yes. Then fight that rather than demanding that the Democratic party cede the advantage to the GOP by willingly playing on an unlevel field... all for the sake of virtue signaling. Our party should use every legal means we have to compete with the GOP. Refusing to do so in order to give a purity performance (while intentionally putting our party at a disadvantage) makes no sense.

Passages

(3,986 posts)
15. No.
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 08:14 AM
Mar 2025

Fortunate to have politicians who say one thing to their voters and then vote according to their top donors?

There is an absence here of the fundamentals of a functioning democracy.

I am sure you mean well, but we are too far apart in appreciating the gravity of Citizens United.

Enjoy the remainder of your day.





Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
16. Undoubtedly, the Citizens United decision stands as a pivotal moment that unleashed significant challenges.
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 08:34 AM
Mar 2025

Undoubtedly, the Citizens United decision stands as a pivotal moment that unleashed significant challenges. Despite our party's firm stance against this ruling and the complexities it introduces, we find ourselves operating within this established framework. While we may strongly oppose the decision and its ramifications, it is impractical for the Democratic party to adopt an overly righteous stance and decline donations that are essential for maintaining parity with the GOP.

People like myself who live in the real world know that in the present landscape, it is crucial for our party to remain competitive and ensure a level playing field. Refusing strategic donations that could help balance the scales would only serve to relinquish a critical advantage to our political rivals, without yielding any meaningful gains or advantages. In navigating the current political environment, achieving a sense of equilibrium becomes paramount for effective participation and influence.

This does not make Democrats "corrupt". This is a necessary reality. To do otherwise is to simply virtue signaling and raising a white flag of surrender.

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
23. They can also choose to ignore reality and put themselves at a strategic disadvantage *
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 09:37 AM
Mar 2025

* for no good reason other than virtue signaling and vanity. We don't have that luxury. Right now our objective must be to defeat the GOP. We can strut around in our finery later.

Mysterian

(6,166 posts)
19. Can you provide a link or citation to any statement by Sanders that both parties are the same?
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 09:22 AM
Mar 2025

Thanks.

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
22. Yes. Here's something recent.
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 09:33 AM
Mar 2025

This has been a oft-repeated mantra about Democrats, I'm surprised that there's anyone around who hasn't already heard any of the many dozen different versions of it. Some subtle, others less-so... it runs the gamut.

https://thehill.com/homenews/5207811-sanders-not-a-whole-lot-of-faith-in-either-party/

But Sanders said, “Democrats also have a whole lot of billionaires funding their campaigns.”

“And you know, I think people are looking for alternatives. And I think, among other things, they also want to end this corrupt campaign finance system … which allows billionaires in both parties to buy elections,” he said.


Additional info about The Hill https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-hill/

Mysterian

(6,166 posts)
25. Thanks
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 09:58 AM
Mar 2025

Sanders is pointing out painful truths. PAINFUL. It's great to remember he's fighting a good fight with Democratic party allies and seems to be honestly working to help the Democratic party become better and more successful.

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
26. No. Those are not "truths" at all. He's attacking the party from the outside.
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 10:06 AM
Mar 2025

Anyone who is serious about trying to improve and strengthen the Democratic party does so from within. Shitting on the party by equating Democrats to the GOP only suppresses support for our party and that benefits the GOP. Why would anyone do that? Encouraging others to run for elected office as Independents "outside the Democratic party" (as he's said) only serves to divide the progressive/liberal votes... this weakens the Democratic party, and benefits the GOP. Again, why? This does NOT "help the Democratic party to become better and more successful" (to use your words).

Mysterian

(6,166 posts)
30. No, blaming others for Democratic losses is a roadmap to continued failure
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 12:25 PM
Mar 2025

Democratic leadership needs to accept the truths about its fundamental weaknesses and failures before it can even begin to build a stronger party.

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
31. Lying about the Democratic party and *
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 12:34 PM
Mar 2025

* lying about Democrats by calling them corrupt, spineless, cowards, complicit, and no different than GOP is not, by any stretch of the imagination a "road map to success," nor does it build a stronger party. I live in the real world, where those things only kneecap the party and sabotage our efforts. It's suppresses the vote. It splits the vote. All of these things benefit the GOP and Trump.

Mysterian

(6,166 posts)
32. Did Sanders call Democrats corrupt, spineless cowards? When? Where?
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 12:41 PM
Mar 2025

Funny that Sanders would choose to caucus with (what you claim) he called corrupt, spineless cowards. The reason Trump is president is because of apathy. 90 million Americans eligible to vote did not vote. Look at what is happening right now. Sanders and a Democrat are stumping around the country to get voters excited. Do you think they are telling people to vote for independents or republicans? In the real world, the Democratic party is failing and must go directly to the people, like AOC and Sanders are doing, bypassing the corrupt corporate media. If you don't see that, we live in different worlds.

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
33. Yes, they did not vote because they've been fed the lie that "both parties are the same" and *
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 01:15 PM
Mar 2025

* that their vote doesn't matter, or that "sending a message" and "punishing Democrats" is more important than winning. There's a scorched earth policy among many who call themselves "critics" or who push the narrative that they "want to help" the Democrats.

>> Do you think they are telling people to vote for independents or republicans?
His negativity toward Democrats will NOT get voters "excited about" Democrats. Even without using your explicit wording, the meaning is clear and the apathy spreads. The recent comment about encouraging people to run as Independents OUTSIDE OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY literally is encouraging THIRD PARTY CANDIDATE to oppose Democrats and split the vote. It could not be more clear what's going on here.

>> Funny that Sanders would choose to caucus with (what you claim) he called corrupt, spineless cowards.
If he were serious about wanting to strengthen the Democratic party, then he should join the party and stay in the party. If he can't declare himself to be a proud Democrat, then his "support" of Democrats rings hollow and insincere.

As I've said before it's easy to criticize and run through a laundry list of complaints at campaign stops. It's much harder to make the commitment to get one's hands dirty and actually do something about it. As you say... If you don't see that, we live in different worlds.

Mysterian

(6,166 posts)
37. So when and where did Sanders call Democrats spineless cowards?
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 09:15 AM
Mar 2025

I guess you just made that up.

Emile

(40,572 posts)
9. I take issue with Democrats voting with the Republican majority. Bernie
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 07:27 AM
Mar 2025

and AOC are what leadership looks like!

Glamrock

(12,003 posts)
11. If only we would have elections in the future.
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 07:49 AM
Mar 2025

Unfortunately, ain’t never gonna happen. The oligarchs ain’t given up the power they’ve got. This has been a decades long plan. There will be no upcoming elections unless they already have it in the bag.

Mysterian

(6,166 posts)
20. We beat the King of England and the most powerful empire in the world
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 09:24 AM
Mar 2025

We can beat a bunch of shitheels like Musk with one arm tied behind our back.

LilElf70

(1,376 posts)
14. This is what true, progressive democrats looks like.
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 08:06 AM
Mar 2025

Unfortunately it has taken a decade to acknowledge it. MSM is even recognizing that the only way to combat the far right, is to have a far left. It is extremely unfortunate that we had to let this get out of hand. 3.5 more years to get our shit together and take democracy back.

My question is what's next? Talk is cheap. Actions speak in volumes.

jalan48

(14,914 posts)
21. We should have been having this discussion in 2016 after Clinton lost to Trump.
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 09:31 AM
Mar 2025

Instead, we got four years of victimhood.

Voltaire2

(15,377 posts)
27. Bernie is paving the way for AOC.
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 10:14 AM
Mar 2025

This is how elder statesmen earn their place in history. And AOC is up to the task.

Hotler

(13,735 posts)
28. I went, rode the bus down and back, felt good being surround by nice people. Lots of energy. nt
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 10:48 AM
Mar 2025

Ping Tung

(4,137 posts)
29. Integrity, human decency, courage, and hope are on display in those photos.
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 11:44 AM
Mar 2025

Which are sadly lacking in most politicians.

mike_c

(36,899 posts)
34. I will always believe we were cheated...
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 01:20 PM
Mar 2025

...by anyone-but-Bernie democrats. Look at the confidence he inspires in voters! I don't want to fight the primary battles again, but I believe the man standing with AOC in that photo would have been so much better than any of the presidents we got instead.

pinkstarburst

(1,874 posts)
35. This is fighting back
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 01:26 PM
Mar 2025

They have all the energy right now. I love AOC. I am not willing to have my vote taken away, either, because some are trying to decide for me that my only choices in 2028 should be straight white protestant men. I like AOC. I like Mayor Pete. I like Elizabeth Warren. I want to see fighters, not right wing apologists simpering on a podcast and thinking because they have pretty hair and happen to be a white male, they've got it in the bag.

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