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Prairie Gates

(7,195 posts)
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 09:25 AM Mar 2025

Minor controversy in Italy over Vance-Salvini phone call (Sidelining Meloni?)

JD Vance had a perfect phone call with his "good friend" Matteo Salvini, the Vice Premier of Italy and leader of the Lega, a far right party and part of Italy's governing coalition. There's only one minor issue: Salvini is not the Italian Foreign Minister - that's Antonio Tajani. The Italian political press is hypothesizing that this was Trump-Vance trying to make an end run around Meloni, who has been a staunch defender of Ukraine despite her far right credentials. Tajani himself had to come out and say that "La politica estera la fa il presidente del consiglio e il ministro degli Esteri" (in short: foreign policy is conducted by the President of the Council -- that is, Meloni -- and the Foreign Minister). Tajani went on to say that the call was "personal" and legitimate, but to remind the press of protocol is being read as a significant rebuke of Salvini. In other words, "You don't conduct foreign policy."

Why it's important, potentially: Meloni and Tajani have been strongly anti-Putin and have also been in talks about rearmament of European countries independently of US assistance. While relatively friendly with Trump, they are certainly on different sides when it comes to Ukraine, Russia, and European rearmament. Is Vance making the first moves to sideline Meloni and replace her with the more pliable Salvini? That's the thinking. And if you thought Meloni was bad (she is), you do not want to see the sniveling stronzo that is Matteo Salvini. He will be a true Trump-Putin puppet.

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Minor controversy in Italy over Vance-Salvini phone call (Sidelining Meloni?) (Original Post) Prairie Gates Mar 2025 OP
And more money for Musk: dalton99a Mar 2025 #1
No doubt true, but that statement was also a bit of ass-covering Prairie Gates Mar 2025 #3
Italian Fascists want nothing to do with Putin. Kid Berwyn Mar 2025 #2
Well, Meloni IS a . gasp. . .WOMAN!!! You surely do not expect the great niyad Mar 2025 #4
True! Prairie Gates Mar 2025 #5
flyboy was/is afraid of women. couchhumper actually hates them. niyad Mar 2025 #6

dalton99a

(92,125 posts)
1. And more money for Musk:
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 09:46 AM
Mar 2025
Fifteen-minute phone call between the Deputy Prime Minister and the Minister of Infrastructure Matteo Salvini and the Vice President of the United States JD Vance. This was announced by the League, of which Salvini is the secretary. At the center of the extremely cordial and concrete conversation were the opportunities for cooperation between the two countries: Salvini anticipated the desire for a mission to the USA with businesses and investors. Objective: to strengthen the partnership between Rome and Washington. In this regard, Salvini highlighted Italian excellence also in the field of road and rail infrastructure and recognized American excellence in the field of satellite connection.

https://www.agenzianova.com/en/news/telephone-conversation-between-salvini-and-vance-the-vice-prime-minister-is-working-on-a-mission-to-washington/

Prairie Gates

(7,195 posts)
3. No doubt true, but that statement was also a bit of ass-covering
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 10:08 AM
Mar 2025

They frame the discussion as about infrastructure because Salvini is the Minister of Infrastructure. But this is back formation after he initially came out and said the phone call was about peace in Ukraine, certainly not in his portfolio.

Kid Berwyn

(22,958 posts)
2. Italian Fascists want nothing to do with Putin.
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 09:52 AM
Mar 2025

They know never to trust the KGB.

Trump and Vance think Putin’s their friend and partner. Traitors.

niyad

(129,553 posts)
4. Well, Meloni IS a . gasp. . .WOMAN!!! You surely do not expect the great
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 12:03 PM
Mar 2025

couchhumper to deal with a. . .mere woman???

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