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Dennis Donovan

(31,059 posts)
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 11:11 AM Mar 2025

Josh Marshall: The IRS EO will be weaponized.

David Kaye
‪@davidakaye.bsky.social‬
the EO's language should frighten not only every american but every member of congress, every judge. opening the door to mass repression.


‪Josh Marshall‬
@joshtpm.bsky.social‬
12m
The first and most important thing to know about last night's Exec order is that it's intended to break current law and allow people throughout the federal gov look at yr tax returns. Beyond that it's intended to compel states to turn over all their data to the fed govt.

March 22, 2025 at 11:56 AM




Josh Marshall‬ ‪
@joshtpm.bsky.social‬
17m
The first and most important thing to know about last night's Exec order is that it's intended to break current law and allow people throughout the federal gov look at yr tax returns. Beyond that it's intended to compel states to turn over all their data to the fed govt.

‪Josh Marshall‬
@joshtpm.bsky.social‬
17m
2/ Taken together it's intended to create big data sets about targeted citizens for various kinds of harassment, intimidation, prosecutorial abuse etc. Very standard big brother stuff. Much of it is against current law. But more generally, when you pay taxes you give the govt info for ...

‪Josh Marshall‬ ‪
@joshtpm.bsky.social‬
17m
3/ for the specific purpose of collecting taxes, not to use for other reasons. This isn't some vague concept. It's the law. Similarly, when you indirectly give medical information, it's for the purposes of either anonymized public health data or for reimbursement through Medicare/Medicaid, etc.

‪Josh Marshall‬ ‪
@joshtpm.bsky.social‬
17m
4/ The point is the information is provided for specific lawful reasons and "silo'd" inside the government precisely because it's provided only for that reason. The aim of this new EO is to create thick packets of data on targeted individuals, for a different kind of federal govt that aims ....

‪Josh Marshall
‪@joshtpm.bsky.social‬
17m
5/ to punish or go to war with people who don't do as the incumbent president says or refuse to support the president. It goes back to the foundations of the civil compact itself. We choose elected officials to serve the public and do so impartially. The Trump model is you get executive ...

Josh Marshall
‪@joshtpm.bsky.social‬
6/ power and use it to go to war with the people who don't support you.
March 22, 2025 at 11:44 AM


6/ power and use it to go to war with the people who don't support you.

Josh Marshall (@joshtpm.bsky.social) 2025-03-22T15:44:48.688Z
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Safe as Milk

(205 posts)
1. Trump is saying this about waste, fraud, and abuse:
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 11:19 AM
Mar 2025

Anyone who opposes ME for any reason is a "WASTE." Anyone who claims to be a legal citizen and does not support me is a "FRAUD." Anyone who opposes ME is ABUSING ME and needs to be targeted for retribution.

hlthe2b

(112,794 posts)
2. All the warnings from all the astute political analysts, bloggers, pundits, and content experts are needed...
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 12:22 PM
Mar 2025

The public needs this drilled into them.

But, for those of us who are following closely (and have for some time), to do so with not a word of how we can fight it (except for the expected "people power" admonishments--which many of us are already doing), is stress-inducing to me. Yes, Senators Bennett, Hickenlooper, and Representative Negeuse and Crowe hear from me constantly (as do several other Colorado Reps) but how is that countering what DOGE is doing and has already done to dismantle democracy? By the time anyone in Congress "gets to it" will probably be after the 2026 election.

So, yes, I scream. Yes, I am fully aware and informed. And yes, that only keeps me feeling hand-tied, anxious, and angry!

c-rational

(3,131 posts)
8. Agreed and well said, especially about the need for what we can and should be doing. There is a
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 04:46 PM
Mar 2025

vacuum of ideas about how to resisit.

yellow dahlia

(4,516 posts)
9. Agreed. We need all the expert analysis we can get, and we need to share it.
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 11:11 PM
Mar 2025

Lack of an informed public is one of the variables that is a current threat.

not a texan

(80 posts)
4. Maybe the could disclose the Malignant Mango's tax returns
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 01:38 PM
Mar 2025

Wouldn't it be sweet if AI would publish his tax returns.

Karasu

(2,003 posts)
5. Of all the blatantly illegal EOs issued since he got to play king again, this might just be the worst. It needs to be
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 01:43 PM
Mar 2025

cut to pieces yesterday.

Wiz Imp

(8,917 posts)
7. I thought I saw the EO referred to the states turning over UI records to the federal government
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 04:05 PM
Mar 2025

TO be absolutely clear: UI records belong to the states and the federal government has zero authority to compel states to turn over ANY state owned data to them. That did really bother me when I first saw it and apparently that is part of what Josh Marshall finds so disturbing. I totally agree with him.

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