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milestogo

(22,573 posts)
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 11:25 AM Mar 2025

The growing legend of the missing Oval Office ivy

Things have been disappearing in Washington. Jobs are being eliminated. Entire agencies are on the brink. Black Lives Matter Plaza was jackhammered away. USAID documents were ordered to be shredded. And, as federal buildings go up for sale, will government artwork be lost in the shuffle? In the commotion of Donald Trump’s return to office, it’s easy to overlook a smaller thing that has vanished: the Swedish ivy plant in the Oval Office.



The ivy sat atop the fireplace mantel for most of the past 50 years, providing a backdrop for meetings with countless leaders and foreign dignitaries at the White House. It has filtered the air breathed by Nelson Mandela, Pope John Paul II, Margaret Thatcher and Whitney Houston. When the president stared straight ahead from the Resolute Desk, the ivy is what he saw. It has taken several shapes over the years. Under Gerald Ford and Jimmy Carter, the ivy was unkempt and bushy. It was pruned back during the presidencies of Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush. It features prominently in Bill Clinton’s swaggish presidential portrait. It was split into three neat topiary-esque shrubs for George W. Bush. It became a wide, sprawling hedge for Barack Obama (who swapped it out, temporarily, for a different varietal of ivy). It was cut down to two smaller plants for Donald Trump’s first term. For Joe Biden, the ivy crept wider and longer again.

“That ivy has been there forever,” said the Clintons’ decorator, Kaki Hockersmith, in a 1994 interview with the Dallas Morning News. “We can’t touch it.” It was there when Trump moved back into the Oval Office earlier this year. By February, it was gone. n its place, conspicuously, are seven gleaming decorative objects, seemingly made of gold. A Maryland writer named Jamie Kirkpatrick noticed them earlier this month, around the time of the contentious Oval Office meeting with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, when the mantel was visible in nearly every photograph of Trump and Vice President JD Vance arguing with Zelensky.

What were those? Kirkpatrick wondered. Golf trophies? Kirkpatrick noticed the change because he has a propagation of the Swedish ivy — a gift from a friend of a friend who worked at the White House — in his Eastern Shore home. Countless people have descendants of the ivy in their homes, in Washington and across the country. Clippings have been offered over the years as parting gifts to White House staffers, who propagate them at home and give them to friends, who in turn give clippings to other friends, and on and on. In Chicago, sonography student Kayla Benker has a propagation in a ceramic White House-shaped pot, a reminder of her 2011 internship in the Obama photo office, where she got to know many staff members who had worked through multiple administrations. The ivy, she says, is the plant version of the staff’s devotion and continuity.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/style/power/2025/03/18/oval-office-swedish-ivy-obama-plant-trump-missing-kennedy-gold-mantel/

Loves gold, hates living things. Trees, plants, humans.

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The growing legend of the missing Oval Office ivy (Original Post) milestogo Mar 2025 OP
The piece of shit probably threw it in the trash dalton99a Mar 2025 #1
Probably wanted to, but it's in a greenhouse on the WH grounds. Non-paywall link-- nilram Mar 2025 #28
King Krasnov's fake golf tophies? How republicon is that? BoRaGard Mar 2025 #2
EXACTLY my first thought Before I saw the photo PCIntern Mar 2025 #5
There is also new gold decorative trim on the yorkster Mar 2025 #3
Easier to clean off the ketchup. milestogo Mar 2025 #4
Nope--you're observant. A new swash of gold has been added to that mantel. Maybe someone else can allegorical oracle Mar 2025 #20
Ah hah... that's where I saw it. Footage of yorkster Mar 2025 #25
Lost? No. Sold? Most definitely! SheltieLover Mar 2025 #6
This all reads like bad fiction. John Farmer Mar 2025 #7
It's bad. But unfortunately it is part of our reality. erronis Mar 2025 #14
When he was told the ivy had to stay, Trump probably personally threw it in the trash. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #8
I just hope some plant lover got hold of it and took it home before he could do that. milestogo Mar 2025 #9
I hope so too. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #10
Maybe Susie Wiles milestogo Mar 2025 #12
I imagine staff have to hide the historic national treasures from Trump. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #16
Just thinking the same thing. Alice B. Mar 2025 #11
Have been following this story. DJT invaded the WH "Vermeil Room". He traded out the ivy for allegorical oracle Mar 2025 #13
I think his taste buds lie closer to his posterior sphincter. erronis Mar 2025 #17
It's like he's living in the age of Columbus milestogo Mar 2025 #21
He is the personification of bad taste. LisaM Mar 2025 #15
So true. Have read that he promised to save those friezes, but didn't. He's such a liar. allegorical oracle Mar 2025 #23
And comparing the elegant Bonwit Teller building to Trump Tower.. LisaM Mar 2025 #24
I hope they find it senseandsensibility Mar 2025 #18
The end of the article said it is in the greenhouse with KitFox Mar 2025 #19
Thanks, I didn't read to the end. milestogo Mar 2025 #22
I'm sure you're right! If he knew about the history of it, he KitFox Mar 2025 #29
The ivy lives in a greenhouse, and the gold tchotchkes aren't golf trophies, Ocelot II Mar 2025 #26
Yep. If folks bothered to read the article they would know that. onenote Mar 2025 #27

nilram

(3,471 posts)
28. Probably wanted to, but it's in a greenhouse on the WH grounds. Non-paywall link--
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 03:47 PM
Mar 2025
https://www.msn.com/en-za/society-culture-and-history/history/what-happened-to-the-world-s-most-famous-pot-plant-in-the-oval-office/ar-AA1BbqY3

The gaudy vases and stuff are from prior presidents.

No, the gold vessels are not golf trophies. They’re artifacts from the White House’s own collection. The central gilded bronze basket, called a compotier, was made in France around 1815 and gifted to the Nixon administration in 1973. To its left and right are a pair of urns from the Monroe Plateau, a set of gilded tableware acquired by President James Monroe in 1817, shortly after the British burned the White House. The outer two sets are from a collection acquired during the Eisenhower administration that are usually displayed in the Vermeil Room, which is named after its contents (vermeil is gilded silver).

The poor taste of putting them all together on one mantle is... what got elected.

PCIntern

(27,970 posts)
5. EXACTLY my first thought Before I saw the photo
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 11:58 AM
Mar 2025

Now we need a photo of the Depends delivery.

yorkster

(3,674 posts)
3. There is also new gold decorative trim on the
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 11:42 AM
Mar 2025

front facing part of the mantel, just below the bas relief, unless that was a different fireplace in the White House that I saw.

allegorical oracle

(6,175 posts)
20. Nope--you're observant. A new swash of gold has been added to that mantel. Maybe someone else can
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 02:34 PM
Mar 2025

find the new addition and post it here. It was done between the Zelensky visit and the Irish PM's visit.

yorkster

(3,674 posts)
25. Ah hah... that's where I saw it. Footage of
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 03:16 PM
Mar 2025

the Taoiseach Michael Martin showed it.

My first thought was well, what's this? More gaudiness at "Versigh" on the Potomac. It's a very elegant fireplace. No need to gussy it up, so to speak. A minor thing, but I shudder to think of his plans for the rose garden. The king of bling...
Thanks.

Irish_Dem

(79,775 posts)
8. When he was told the ivy had to stay, Trump probably personally threw it in the trash.
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 12:24 PM
Mar 2025

He is oppositional and defiant. Like a bad child.

Irish_Dem

(79,775 posts)
16. I imagine staff have to hide the historic national treasures from Trump.
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 02:23 PM
Mar 2025

He will either damage, destroy, or steal them.
I am sure he took more than boxes of classified documents last time.
Also artifacts from the WH.

He wanted the original Declaration of Independence installed into his office recently.
The national archives had to talk him out of it.
They gave him one of the copies.
He will probably steal it when he leaves.

Alice B.

(694 posts)
11. Just thinking the same thing.
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 02:06 PM
Mar 2025

This story hit me oddly hard, which tells me I'm reaching capacity for this "administration's" garbage.

allegorical oracle

(6,175 posts)
13. Have been following this story. DJT invaded the WH "Vermeil Room". He traded out the ivy for
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 02:21 PM
Mar 2025

gold. It occurred between the Zelensky meeting and the meeting with Irish PM. If you notice, the white marble fireplace now has huge swatches of gold-ish gingerbread attached, and the top of the mantel has had the array of vermeil pieces placed on it.

Vermeil is a thick coating (2.5 microns) of 10-24Kt gold over sterling silver. The other pieces are Bronze Dore, which is gilt over bronze. I don't have the ability to show the new fireplace facade but it's really garish.

His taste is all in his mouth.

milestogo

(22,573 posts)
21. It's like he's living in the age of Columbus
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 02:34 PM
Mar 2025

and the Queen is only going to be impressed if he comes up with slaves and gold.

LisaM

(29,489 posts)
15. He is the personification of bad taste.
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 02:22 PM
Mar 2025

Also, this makes me think about the Bonwit Teller friezes that he destroyed, which is so infuriating.

senseandsensibility

(24,247 posts)
18. I hope they find it
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 02:28 PM
Mar 2025

and it wasn't thrown out. This reminds me of my late mother who had a green thumb. She gave me an ivy plant when I moved into my first home 25 years ago and I did my best to keep it alive although the green thumb gene passed me by. Shortly after she passed, I doubled my efforts to nurture it because it was a piece of her that I could see daily and it warmed my heart. But I accidentally overwatered it in zeal and it almost died. It's taken a year or two to bring it back, and it looks great now. Hope Mom is pleased!

KitFox

(508 posts)
19. The end of the article said it is in the greenhouse with
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 02:33 PM
Mar 2025

others propagated from it. Other staff from previous years also have cuttings they propagated. Leave it to Trump to dump this tradition, too. I felt an outsized sense of relief when I read the plant was saved. Unlike the beautiful rose garden that Melania had ripped out. There is just no end to the infinite spectrum of disgust he generates.

milestogo

(22,573 posts)
22. Thanks, I didn't read to the end.
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 02:36 PM
Mar 2025

I can guarantee you it wasn't his idea to make sure it was saved.

KitFox

(508 posts)
29. I'm sure you're right! If he knew about the history of it, he
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 06:05 PM
Mar 2025

would have probably trashed it. A living plant makes it look and feel more comfortable; all the gold objects just look cold and ostentatious. No surprise!

Ocelot II

(129,046 posts)
26. The ivy lives in a greenhouse, and the gold tchotchkes aren't golf trophies,
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 03:31 PM
Mar 2025

they're from other White House collections. https://archive.ph/eSUfC It's just that Trump loves gold, and he has no taste. His apartment in NYC looked like Versailles as redecorated by Saddam Hussein's pimp; he wants to be surrounded by gilded, Baroque stuff that Louis XIV might have thought excessive. Gold means wealth to him, and more than anything he wants to be seen as very, very rich. But that's the way the nouveau-riche think; old money doesn't do that. Their homes are furnished with expensive but unobtrusive heirlooms and their casual clothes are sometimes a little shabby. People who show off their wealth are considered gauche. And Trump is about as gauche as anyone could be.

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