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Pluvious

(5,239 posts)
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 12:42 PM Mar 2025

In Canadian politics, there's a stunning turnaround apparently underway...

( As related to me by a Canadian friend )

The Trudeau led Liberal party had about a 1% chance of forming a majority government in the upcoming election. Trudeau resigns, the L party (LPC) chooses Mark Carney (look him up, very talented person) and now they have a 64% chance of a majority against Pierre Poilievre, the far right leader of the Conservative Party who’s rightly linked to trump

Ideally , Trudeau should not have been so unpopular IMO, but the conservatives spent a lot of time and money on divisive misinformation (sound familiar?)

Trudeau had been in power for 3 terms and 9 years, his time was over. He was fine in my eyes. But 3 months ago it was pretty much a lock that the conservatives would get an easy majority

Current projections:
https://338canada.com/

As for the Conservatives Brainwashing the voters against Mark Carney:

It’ll be a tough sell. In 2008 to about 2010, Carney ran the bank of Canada and steered us completely away from the financial crisis, and it was a conservative government in power and they adored his work

I mean he went to Harvard on a hockey scholarship, ya don’t get more Canadian than that
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Carney

I love his plan to make canada the strongest economy in the G7 and he's the guy who could do it

He feels that by removing intra provincial trade barriers we can basically nullify the impact of US tariffs and a big expansion of trade to ANY other country

#MakeAmericaASmartCountryAgain

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In Canadian politics, there's a stunning turnaround apparently underway... (Original Post) Pluvious Mar 2025 OP
Thanks. I'll take a positive when I can get it. stopdiggin Mar 2025 #1
"I'll take a positive when I can get it." Sadly, there are so few of them here. Hope as well. n/t elocs Mar 2025 #16
CHeck this out. Everything in the op is covered here: Amaryllis Mar 2025 #18
Yes, that is a bright spot, both for us and for Canadians. LisaM Mar 2025 #2
My brother is Canadian TNNurse Mar 2025 #3
Trump seems to be bringing Europe together too! Linda ladeewolf Mar 2025 #29
Thanks for this very positive post. Living up near Canada I hope to see our neighbor thrive erronis Mar 2025 #4
Confused, is up down, and left right? jimmy the one Mar 2025 #5
In Canada yes, the Conservatives are "blue" & Liberals "red". Disaffected Mar 2025 #10
He's just hiding his true colours Laha Mar 2025 #15
Thanks, and I concur jimmy the one Mar 2025 #34
Canada uses the UK colours (con blue/lib-labour red) carpetbagger Mar 2025 #24
Canadian cons boosted by putin? BaronChocula Mar 2025 #6
mmm....Vancouver or Toronto sounds nice! chouchou Mar 2025 #7
Well said, I saw young progressive Canadians fall for it, maybe they will get a brain and figure out the con. nt ImNotGod Mar 2025 #8
You can't fight conservatism with conservatism. I would hope Canadians realize that. This global trend of everyone going Karasu Mar 2025 #9
Yaassss! pandr32 Mar 2025 #11
Trump being a jerk has generating a wave of Canadian pride and nationalism. See the numbers! MichiganMan-1 Mar 2025 #12
So far the average Canadian doesn't seem to be as dumb as the average American mdbl Mar 2025 #13
Canada will need to watch out for vote rigging. Musk and other RW tech execs have a long reach. wnylib Mar 2025 #14
Federal elections use hand-counted paper ballots. Dave Bowman Mar 2025 #22
Good to hear. 58Sunliner Mar 2025 #17
K&R spanone Mar 2025 #19
Great post about Canada wendyb-NC Mar 2025 #20
Elbows up! usedtobedemgurl Mar 2025 #21
Once Canada saw where that road led 4catsmom Mar 2025 #23
Love this! My mom was born in Canada. Joinfortmill Mar 2025 #25
Trudeau has served his time. forgotmylogin Mar 2025 #26
Minor point, but he did not get a hockey scholarship from Harvard unblock Mar 2025 #27
No scholarships, but Harvard has more teams than any other university Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2025 #30
Election will be on April 28. moondust Mar 2025 #28
I know it's wrong to say this. I'm SOOOOO jealous. mucifer Mar 2025 #31
I listened to a Carney interview peggysue2 Mar 2025 #32
Intra provincial trade barriers do sound stupid. malthaussen Mar 2025 #33
Canada, never never never, shall be a State jimmy the one Mar 2025 #35

stopdiggin

(15,025 posts)
1. Thanks. I'll take a positive when I can get it.
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 12:57 PM
Mar 2025

The orange man child is toxic. Virtually radioactive. Cannot understand why everyone with a functioning brain cell doesn't absolutely flee (I talk breaking into a full on sprint) - on sight!

 

elocs

(24,486 posts)
16. "I'll take a positive when I can get it." Sadly, there are so few of them here. Hope as well. n/t
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 02:46 PM
Mar 2025

LisaM

(29,489 posts)
2. Yes, that is a bright spot, both for us and for Canadians.
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 01:05 PM
Mar 2025

One thing about Trump is that like a typical bully, he wilts in the face of true resistance.

I listen to CBC radio a lot and try to keep up with their politics and I was worried about Polievre, so the timing of this is spot on.

TNNurse

(7,490 posts)
3. My brother is Canadian
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 01:06 PM
Mar 2025

He says nothing has ever brought the country together like our idiot president.

erronis

(22,651 posts)
4. Thanks for this very positive post. Living up near Canada I hope to see our neighbor thrive
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 01:12 PM
Mar 2025

even if we are suffering.

jimmy the one

(2,777 posts)
5. Confused, is up down, and left right?
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 01:20 PM
Mar 2025

I am a bit confused Pluvious, it appears to me the blue line on your link graph refers to the Conservative party while the red line refers to the LPC party which you say is the liberal party.
Is this so or am I reading it wrong?
Yegads if so, this is of course diametrically opposite to our political color code.

Spent two months in Quebec in 2017 summer, trois riviere mostly, trump elected inspired.
Did not go to Canada to escape Vietnam era service but an undereducated corrupt obnoxious political punk did the trick.
Long live Mark Carney.

Disaffected

(6,154 posts)
10. In Canada yes, the Conservatives are "blue" & Liberals "red".
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 01:40 PM
Mar 2025

And BTW, I would not describe the Conservative leader as "far right" by any stretch.

Laha

(433 posts)
15. He's just hiding his true colours
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 02:43 PM
Mar 2025

He'll be right up licking Rump's taint with Eloon if he wins the next election.

jimmy the one

(2,777 posts)
34. Thanks, and I concur
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 12:51 PM
Mar 2025

I did not claim your conservatives were in step with our American governmental right wing cretinism. Only meant the color code diametrically opposite. I have been well aware of your stated position for decades, more so with regards to Britain anyway.
I view Canada's conservatives as being about a center right American politician. The same with British Tories. What you say?
I may be wrong but I cannot see one single British Tory MP wanting to allow assault rifles legal in Britain, do you? What about Canadian MPs? Some might want to allow handguns legal but less to carry concealed, eh?
How about climate change deniers? Any MPs in Britain or Canada? Abortion rights (this one I am unsure so much).

carpetbagger

(5,407 posts)
24. Canada uses the UK colours (con blue/lib-labour red)
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 04:05 PM
Mar 2025

The U.S. colors became fixed during the 2000 recount TV coverage.

BaronChocula

(4,027 posts)
6. Canadian cons boosted by putin?
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 01:23 PM
Mar 2025

I wouldn't be surprised. He has the template for spewing misinformation and influencing hosers. The template can work in any number of places. I assume it's low cost, high reward.

I truly hope the Liberals pull this out, but I'm cautious. It looked good for Vice President Harris at first too.

ImNotGod

(1,194 posts)
8. Well said, I saw young progressive Canadians fall for it, maybe they will get a brain and figure out the con. nt
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 01:39 PM
Mar 2025

Karasu

(2,003 posts)
9. You can't fight conservatism with conservatism. I would hope Canadians realize that. This global trend of everyone going
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 01:40 PM
Mar 2025

fascist needs to end.

MichiganMan-1

(15 posts)
12. Trump being a jerk has generating a wave of Canadian pride and nationalism. See the numbers!
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 01:53 PM
Mar 2025

The causes are myriad, with Conservative leader Pierre Poilievre losing two of his biggest targets – Justin Trudeau and the carbon tax – and U.S. President Donald Trump generating a wave of Canadian pride and nationalism with tariff and annexation threats. Over this three-month period Liberal support has jumped 30 points in the city of Toronto, 25 points!

mdbl

(8,109 posts)
13. So far the average Canadian doesn't seem to be as dumb as the average American
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 02:01 PM
Mar 2025

Time will tell.

wnylib

(25,355 posts)
14. Canada will need to watch out for vote rigging. Musk and other RW tech execs have a long reach.
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 02:26 PM
Mar 2025

They will stop at nothing to get what they want.

wendyb-NC

(4,603 posts)
20. Great post about Canada
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 03:46 PM
Mar 2025

I love Canada. My Grandmother, my mother's mother and her family were French Canadian. I applaud their patience and resistance, regarding the orange plague. They are the salt of the earth.

4catsmom

(667 posts)
23. Once Canada saw where that road led
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 03:50 PM
Mar 2025

they did a left turn, and just in time. DO NOT support any politician who aligns with Trump in any way.

Joinfortmill

(20,056 posts)
25. Love this! My mom was born in Canada.
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 05:54 PM
Mar 2025

So, technically, I'm Canadian. It's where I'm heading, if we don't Dump Trump.

forgotmylogin

(7,940 posts)
26. Trudeau has served his time.
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 06:02 PM
Mar 2025

No politician should be "for life" for the good of everyone and their own well-being. Serving the populace takes it out of you.

unblock

(55,910 posts)
27. Minor point, but he did not get a hockey scholarship from Harvard
Sat Mar 22, 2025, 06:11 PM
Mar 2025

And the materials I've seen don't generally say that. They say he went to Harvard on a partial scholarship and financial aid and played hockey. They may phrase it in a way that implies the scholarship was for hockey, but the ivies don't do that. No athletics scholarships at any of the ivies.

Most likely, the scholarship was a needs-based grant. Those are very common at the ivies it's so expensive and they have huge endowments.

Now, it's possible that an outside booster provided a scholarship, but the ivies discourage that, they might even ban it. Most likely, though, it was needs-based.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
30. No scholarships, but Harvard has more teams than any other university
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 01:52 AM
Mar 2025

I was hearing about that on CBC radio the other day.

They don't offer athletic scholarships, but find other ways to offer financial support.

peggysue2

(12,382 posts)
32. I listened to a Carney interview
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 10:38 AM
Mar 2025

The man is smart and highly engaging. He's managed to position himself as an outsider. Though he's worked consistently around government in banking and finance with appointments (Governor to the Bank of Canada and Governor to the Bank of England) he had not been directly involved in electoral politics until recently. Well respected and personally popular, Carney is an excellent foil to the likes of Pierre Poilievre and his Maple Leaf Magats.

Right man in the right place at the right time. He's also been benefited by Canadian disgust with all things Trump. Rightly so.

Godspeed!

malthaussen

(18,399 posts)
33. Intra provincial trade barriers do sound stupid.
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 11:46 AM
Mar 2025

I'm sure there are good and noble reasons for them (hah), but they certainly would seem to be an impediment to trade.

-- Mal

jimmy the one

(2,777 posts)
35. Canada, never never never, shall be a State
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 01:35 PM
Mar 2025

Thought of a good fight song for Canadians at their sporting events:

Sung to tune of Rule Brittania

Rule Canadians, Canadians rule the Bays.
Cana da, never never never, shall be a state.

Cana da spelled thus to separate Cana in first high note, from da in second descending note in the tune.

Rule Brittania, Brittania rules the waves.
Britons never never never, shall be slaves.

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