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This message was self-deleted by its author (Original Post) lapucelle Mar 23 OP

Right, because sending them to slave camps, and not their point of origin was the correct call sakabatou Mar 23 #1

To say that Bernie, in the third person, 'admitted' to anything RandySF Mar 23 #2

Yes, the framing is definitely problematic. It's not like Johnathan Karl used the word "admit" in his question. lapucelle Mar 23 #6

Biden should have asked the question....why the Southern immigration in the 1st place. OAITW r.2.0 Mar 23 #3

As guilty as anyone because I've almost supported open borders. But it likely cost us election as much as any issue. Silent Type Mar 23 #4

This part should be included Uncle Joe Mar 23 #5

There's a four paragraph limit. N/T lapucelle Mar 23 #7

False premise alarimer Mar 23 #8

Yes, that would have been a better answer than "Yes, should have done much better. No argument." N/T lapucelle Mar 23 #9

sakabatou

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1. Right, because sending them to slave camps, and not their point of origin was the correct call

Reply to lapucelle (Original post)

Sun Mar 23, 2025, 09:52 PM

Mar 23

Ugh....

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RandySF

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2. To say that Bernie, in the third person, 'admitted' to anything

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Sun Mar 23, 2025, 09:53 PM

Mar 23

assumes that Trump is right, and I disagree.

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lapucelle

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6. Yes, the framing is definitely problematic. It's not like Johnathan Karl used the word "admit" in his question.

Reply to RandySF (Reply #2)

Sun Mar 23, 2025, 10:15 PM

Mar 23

I was going to rewrite the headline, but decided to go with attribution and quotation marks.

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OAITW r.2.0

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3. Biden should have asked the question....why the Southern immigration in the 1st place.

Reply to lapucelle (Original post)

Sun Mar 23, 2025, 10:06 PM

Mar 23

US foreign policy in the 60s/70's/80s? Killing Democracy...think of Central/South American as political laboratories. How to install pro-corporate interests in place of the people's interests? We reap what we sow.

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Silent Type

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4. As guilty as anyone because I've almost supported open borders. But it likely cost us election as much as any issue.

Reply to lapucelle (Original post)

Sun Mar 23, 2025, 10:07 PM

Mar 23

But this junk of arresting good people, breaking up families, etc., is not the way to do it.

I don’t think Biden allowed an unusual number of people in compared to previous admins. But could have put a show on to at least look like we were serious. I definitely think this issue could have swayed 2% or so of trump voters.

Sanders comments were smart.

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Uncle Joe

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5. This part should be included

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Sun Mar 23, 2025, 10:10 PM

Mar 23

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He wants to deport 20 million people who are in this country who are undocumented. Well, you do that, you destroy the entire country. Because, I got news for you, Trump’s billionaire friends are not going to pick the crops in California that feed us. They’re not going to work in meat packing houses. That’s what undocumented people are doing.

So, we need a variety of programs, guest worker programs, but mostly comprehensive immigration reform.

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https://www.mediaite.com/news/bernie-sanders-admits-trump-right-about-cracking-down-at-border-says-democrats-shouldve-done-much-better-job-last-4-years/

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lapucelle

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7. There's a four paragraph limit. N/T

Reply to Uncle Joe (Reply #5)

Sun Mar 23, 2025, 10:20 PM

Mar 23

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alarimer

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8. False premise

Reply to lapucelle (Original post)

Sun Mar 23, 2025, 10:36 PM

Mar 23

Illegal immigration did not "explode" under Biden. All of the fear about this is racist bullshit.

Without these immigrants, our economy would collapse.

These are human beings in any case running from some pretty dire situations.

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lapucelle

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9. Yes, that would have been a better answer than "Yes, should have done much better. No argument." N/T

Reply to alarimer (Reply #8)

Sun Mar 23, 2025, 10:39 PM

Mar 23

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