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The planned trip by Usha Vance to northern Greenland has infuriated the Island. Residents of one of Earth's two largest ice caps have made themselves clear to Donald Trump once again: do not send your representatives here and bully us into agreeing to your imperialist aims.
Prime Minister Egede was neither playing nor Demark with Trump, who had threatened a military invasion of the majority Inuit population. Both countries blasted the US delegation. Telling them we will not meet with you
From USA Today:
The second lady was expected to travel to Greenland on Thursday alongside Mike Waltz, President Donald Trump's national security adviser, and Energy Secretary Chris Wright. The White House said that she would watch the island's national dogsled race and "celebrate Greenlandic culture and unity."
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What Trump fails to understand is that most of the mineral wealth in Greenland is under up to two miles of ice, so it is only his ego that drives this absurd effort of annexation whose people who have made it clear for years: We are not for sale.
RJ-MacReady
(603 posts)Greenland must stand firm and Europe must stand with Greenland.
calimary
(88,861 posts)Good for Greenland! Stay strong!
Dulcinea
(9,597 posts)If Usha Vance wants to watch the dogsled race, fine. If she wants to try to bully Greenland into submission, no thanks!
nakocal
(624 posts)what dog she wants to eat with her husband.
Danmel
(5,673 posts)And deport them to that lovely prison in El Salvador.
Traildogbob
(12,445 posts)Well done.
BoRaGard
(7,591 posts)According to common manners, you do not invite yourself into someone else's home.
You behave like a decent human being (or government) and wait for them to invite you.
Inviting yourself is the very definition of PIGGISHNESS. Jesus would not do, as you should well know.
I unfortunately woke up thinking of these assholes today, and the one word that came to mind was crass. People with no manners, values, or appreciation of anything truly meaningful in life not to mention no patriotism or dedication to the values this country supposedly stands for.
Boors and bullies who think theyre better than everybody else just because theyve gotten their grubby hands on a pile of money.
BoRaGard
(7,591 posts)Pinback
(13,485 posts)OMGWTF
(5,000 posts)Cha
(316,437 posts)TY
Botany
(76,244 posts)Good job Krasnov.
twodogsbarking
(17,476 posts)Wiz Imp
(8,743 posts)RazorbackExpat
(880 posts)They're laughing at him. And at his MAGA cult followers
Lovie777
(21,569 posts)Wiz Imp
(8,743 posts)Botany
(76,244 posts)Wiz Imp
(8,743 posts)Botany
(76,244 posts)And I think that racism might have been Musks motivation in getting us out of USAID because
it was helping black people in Africa and Musk was raised to see them as the enemy.
We are now the allies of Russia, Hungry, N. Korea, and China. BTW the White House just replaced
A.P. in the press pool w/Semafor which is propaganda outlet for the Chinese Communist Party
leadership, banks and investment houses, and businesses that are linked to China.
LudwigPastorius
(14,047 posts)He is Muslim after all.
muriel_volestrangler
(105,494 posts)Mr. Trump had previously pointed to new land expropriation laws in South Africa that he claims are racist and a breach of the White farmers' human rights. In reaction to the laws, he has halted all foreign aid to South Africa.
...
In a Friday post on his own Truth social platform, Mr. Trump once again offered "safe refuge" to Afrikaner farmers who feel unsafe in South Africa. That came after, on Feb. 7, Mr. Trump signed an executive order accusing the South African government of adopting racist laws that discriminate against Afrikaners, an ethnic group made up primarily of the descendants of Dutch settlers who started arriving in the country hundreds of years ago and now amount to about 13% of the population.
...
South Africa's government hit back at the time, saying the law pertained to unused land or land that was not serving the public interest. Mr. Trump ordered Secretary of State Marco Rubio to prioritize the resettlement program in the U.S. for Afrikaners who feel they have been the victims of racial discrimination. He also cut off all aid and assistance to South Africa for as long as the land expropriation law remains on the books.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-south-africa-farmers-white-afrikaners-offer-us-citizenship/
At a time when he's denying asylum to pretty much anyone else from anywhere in the world, that's implying South Africa is the worst of the worst. Plus of course he stopped USAID anti-HIV programs, which will kill many South Africans (and other nationalities, of course).
xuplate
(156 posts)Allowing the Trump administration to use his wife to run point for this ludicrous display of aggression is a new lowand it smacks of racism.
OnDoutside
(20,860 posts)Hekate
(100,131 posts)We re-watched Blazing Saddles for a respite from the news over the weekend, followed by Men In Black 1,2,&3
HereForTheParty
(915 posts)The notion JD shouldn't be "allowing" it is outdated by several decades.
OrangeJoe
(555 posts)and I have a feeling she's the (nasty) woman behind the man... Greenland dog and pony show could have even been her idea. Usha looks all sweetness but OMG she married that guy. "The Fall of the House of Usher" I hope to see that reality show...
Paladin
(32,208 posts)Bravo and a thousand thanks to Prime Minister Egede of Greenland for telling the trump regime to fuck off. I only wish that more of the leadership of the Democratic Party was exhibiting similar courage and principles.
Think. Again.
(22,456 posts)Zackzzzz
(244 posts)Well, if the Mrs VP is into dogsled races there is very exciting
one held every year outside of Joseph, Oregon.
Days and days of fun.
Think. Again.
(22,456 posts)...Greenlanders to pretend they are happy to see usha, just like don jr did last month.
MadameButterfly
(3,725 posts)will stop him. He's probably ready to do whatever damage it takes to get to the minerals.
Tonk
(86 posts)That fueled his campaign with cash and the technology to succeed. I hope not, anyway.
mopinko
(73,247 posts)i think he has a fantasy that climate change is gonna lay the arctic out for us to plunder.
he pretends to think its a hoax, but he thinks its gonna b a big windfall.
hatrack
(64,168 posts)And yes, he IS that stupid.
magicarpet
(18,456 posts)A perfect way to extract minerals needed by industry that are buried below 2 miles of ice.
You could even use the "Green" method - out of respect for the natural environment - use hydrogen bombs.
brush
(61,033 posts)Such an idiot...and is president again because of too many dumb ass maga voters.
Attilatheblond
(8,142 posts)Or, maybe Musk/Putin has convinced him he'll make a fortune selling 'ancient ice cubes from the Greenland Ice Mines', then drill drill drill
bronxiteforever
(11,062 posts)Last edited Mon Mar 24, 2025, 08:44 AM - Edit history (1)
She clerked for John Roberts and Brett Kavanaugh. Plus she advised Kavanaugh during his confirmation proceedings. I have seen remarks like she isnt as bad as him. Dont fall for the bull. She is knee deep in MAGA hoopla. She is rich and smart which makes her decision to go to Greenland all the more reprehensible.
Botany
(76,244 posts)where she has been told she is not welcome? I hope all members of Greenlands government and
leadership refuses to meet with her.
How fast does spit freeze in Nuuk, Greenland?
Btw why do I think that this Greenland, Panama Canal, and Canada shit are just gas lighting in order
to distract from the take over our nation by Putin, Musk, and Christo Fascists.
Captain Zero
(8,711 posts)Tel them to stay out.
Declare them all persona non grata.
If I was a Greenlander I'd be yelling we don't have to let them in.
Tell them to visit some ice in Russia.
Lars39
(26,483 posts)Irish_Dem
(79,367 posts)Anybody who helps the rapist Kavanaguh is a sociopath too.
travelingthrulife
(4,305 posts)who she is.
Harker
(17,285 posts)before much was known about her.
orangecrush
(28,077 posts)Karasu
(2,003 posts)Were the bad guys now.
Joinfortmill
(19,907 posts)No offense to drag queens or VPs.
no_hypocrisy
(54,123 posts)tanyev
(48,578 posts)ECL213
(429 posts)Why can't they just tell them to fuck off?
Tonk
(86 posts)and then I suppose they have some diplomatic credentials that allow them to go elsewhere.
Botany
(76,244 posts)Ask her how long is she staying? Does she know anybody in Greenland?
Pinback
(13,485 posts)Were gonna need you to wait in this freezing room for a few hours while we decide what to do with you. Heres a piece of aluminum foil.
Harker
(17,285 posts)he might have thought that if the roughly 60,000 Greenlanders achieve independence, he could buy it for $24.00 worth of beads.
IrishAfricanAmerican
(4,378 posts)I was hoping for this.
Norrrm
(3,871 posts)Escape
(368 posts)as a buffer.
ShazzieB
(22,148 posts)I swear to God, I am beyond sick of the surrealistic hellscape the Orange Hellbeast is doing his best to turn not just this country but the entire world into. I feel utterly helpless to stop this madness and terrified to find out what the next body blow is going to be. I'm so frustrated that I feel like SCREAMING!

surfered
(11,090 posts)Irish_Dem
(79,367 posts)Then sashay herself over the to base commander's house for dinner.
Then go the hell back home.
William769
(59,147 posts)Sneederbunk
(17,202 posts)Snubs are in order.
Diraven
(1,795 posts)The only reason this is ever brought up is Greenland is a huge area so it's bound to have some. But there's a reason they're not being mined right now - it's just not economically feasible compared to getting those same minerals from much more convenient sources elsewhere. And it won't be for many, many years.
lapfog_1
(31,573 posts)On a Mercator projection, Greenland appears roughly the same size as Africa, but in reality, Africa is about 14 times larger. The Peters projection, in contrast, aims to show landmasses in their correct relative sizes, though it distorts shapes.

70sEraVet
(5,203 posts)that it demands the closure of the Pituffik Space Base, then Putin's Fool would be doing .... just what he is DOING!
58Sunliner
(6,273 posts)Ocelot II
(128,827 posts)relies heavily on fish, and seal, whale and reindeer meat. You don't travel to a country and turn up your nose at their food...
kacekwl
(8,851 posts)already have their paid fake supporters set up to greet them . And plenty of maga hats to give out.
Hotler
(13,717 posts)louis-t
(24,566 posts)before wiping them off the map and bringing in the digging machines. Arrest the delegation as "hostile invaders", "illegal aliens" or just, plain "aliens".
I'm going to guess they get chased off the island rather quickly.
turbinetree
(26,932 posts)MaineBlueBear
(405 posts)Two layers of ice be damned. He's going to destabilize NATO by attacking one or more of our allies.
rickford66
(6,032 posts)Give the MAGA's some victimhood. Viva Greenland or whatever the saying is there.
Swede
(38,198 posts)"We're low on fuel."
"That sounds like a you problem."
LetMyPeopleVote
(174,270 posts)republianmushroom
(22,122 posts)Why is she representing the U.S. and why are we paying for her trips?? Imagine if Douglas Emhoff did this? Republicans would be having a meltdown!! Hello Democrats???
The_REAL_Ecumenist
(928 posts)BRAVO TO THE KALAALIT, (West Greenlanders), The INUGGUIT, (From the Thule District) & THE IIT, (The East Greenlanders) BRAVISSIMO!!!!!
Martin68
(26,940 posts)FoggyLake
(307 posts)struggle4progress
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dchill
(42,660 posts)...to her that an "incident" could happen that could be blamed on Greenland, which would obviously require an immediate invasion thereof.
LudwigPastorius
(14,047 posts)The UN says that global freshwater demand will outstrip supply by 40% by 2030, and Greenland contains 8% of the Earth's supply of freshwater in its ice sheet.
Trump is NOT a strategic thinker (or a thinker of any kind, really), but it is possible that somebody spoke to him about global water scarcity at some point, and it stuck in the decrepit funhouse that is the inside of his head.
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GP6971
(37,557 posts)Historic NY
(39,577 posts)Uninvited pests
Grins
(9,214 posts)Because Yale Law grads living in Ohio just LOVE dogsled racing.
What a stupid comment!
Blue Full Moon
(3,111 posts)Showed the 2 that are from Canada and UK. Send them back chained.
blubunyip
(267 posts)especially when it's loudly announced.
Might as well say, "We don't want to negotiate with you and give you something in return for exploiting you --we just want to own you, ie. rape you." The whole world sees them. The playground bully suddenly wants to be Greenland's bestie and be represented at the dogsled races...huh?
Greenland
maxrandb
(17,131 posts)"FREEDOM" SUAASAT, instead of Greenlandic Suaasat
33taw
(3,283 posts)MorbidButterflyTat
(4,102 posts)I saw these quotes posted in a different thread yesterday, but where does it say, "Greenland states they will not meet with Usha Vance or rump's delegation."?
Tonk
(86 posts)Egede, who is Greenland's outgoing prime minister, said his caretaker government would not meet with the delegation
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,102 posts)Scalded Nun
(1,590 posts)mdbl
(8,016 posts)Godot51
(706 posts)Neither the "first" nor the "second" ladies have any actual, elected, or appointed status with the government. They are accorded their "respect" due to the status of their husbands. This is also true of any "first or second" gentlemen.
The people of Greenland owe her nothing. They normally would be simply polite and waste valuable time, resources, and efforts to entertain and please her and put on photo-ops but nothing official.
However, due to her husband's and his "bosses" pointless, provocative, and repeated statements her visit is ill-timed and unnecessary. Imagine Jill Biden or Michelle Obama engaging in such petty gestures? How would the "republicans" react?
It would be interesting to know what is in Usha Vance's mind. Does she think she has some official status or power? Does she think as her husband and the current administration do, that she is some kind of princess to her husband's prince?
Overreach is very common among this generation of "elite" conservative republican politicians. They truly seem to believe their elected status, appointed status, or accidental status means they are "official" leaders over the people who elected them for life.
They do not deserve an once of respect
hamsterjill
(16,912 posts)Now, if they will simply not CAVE to the asshole down the line like everyone else is doing.
Go, Greenland! Kick him in the balls!
bucolic_frolic
(53,792 posts)AmericaUnderSiege
(777 posts)And America remains NATO.
If Russia wants to talk with Greenland, it can send its own reps under its own blood-soaked flag.
Greenland is such a strategic place, and a place not particularly suited for a large population, and since it belongs to Denmark, a NATO nation, would it make sense for Greenland to join NATO as a shared possession of NATO, not of any single country? Inhabitants of Greenland would become employees of NATO and be paid for that work, kind of like the payment Alaskans earn as dividends on Alaskan oil. They would also continue to pursue their own interests. This status would also make Greenland of greater strategic importance while placing it under the NATO umbrella. And, no country would attempt a land grab as the US is doing.
Daleuhlmann
(618 posts)Yes, stand up to this bully!
generalbetrayus
(1,484 posts)Greenlanders should be grateful that Orange Julius Caesar is sending VD Jance's wife and not Kristi Noem.
canetoad
(20,075 posts)I admit - did not know this until today. Interesting design.
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Haggard Celine
(17,644 posts)What a clever design showing the midnight Sun and the constant darkness during summer and winter.