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SSJVegeta

(2,240 posts)
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 09:31 PM Mar 2025

Kristi Noem actively defying a federal judge by filming an ad in front

Of a cell using the people she kidnapped as a backdrop.

This is the sickest fucking shit I've seen.



https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/26/americas/kristi-noem-salvador-prison-visit-intl-latam/index.html

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Kristi Noem actively defying a federal judge by filming an ad in front (Original Post) SSJVegeta Mar 2025 OP
WWJD Skittles Mar 2025 #1
pic (so many elements of fuckbaggery going on here at multiple levels) Celerity Mar 2025 #22
I read that's a $60K watch Skittles Mar 2025 #23
it looks like a Rolex Cosmograph Daytona 'Panda Dial' in 18K Yellow Gold, which is around 55-60K USD or more new Celerity Mar 2025 #24
Hey doesn't bdamomma Mar 2025 #33
Looks like the first scene of a porno. Mountainguy Mar 2025 #34
They are providing evidence of human rights' violations n/t malaise Mar 2025 #36
These photos are WHY they did this, and WHY they WANTED guys with TATTOOs lostnfound Mar 2025 #41
Freaking bdamomma Mar 2025 #2
This! 👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆 SheltieLover Mar 2025 #3
They need to lock HER up. n/t ReRe Mar 2025 #16
Dog murderer. Liberal In Texas Mar 2025 #31
I completely agree it is sick - Ms. Toad Mar 2025 #4
DHS was ordered to return them back to the United States by a Federal Judge. SSJVegeta Mar 2025 #7
Was she flying the planes? Ms. Toad Mar 2025 #8
She openly stated she will ignore a federal judge. Thats called "contempt of court." SSJVegeta Mar 2025 #9
Accurately stating the law is not peddling right wing talking points Ms. Toad Mar 2025 #13
So, might we presume ReRe Mar 2025 #17
You'll have to be more specific. Ms. Toad Mar 2025 #20
Nevermind. ReRe Mar 2025 #21
Could it come to this "Can't US Marshalls be called in" bdamomma Mar 2025 #37
Wow, she's far gone. Dave Bowman Mar 2025 #5
I think we should arm young dogs and goats... Jack Valentino Mar 2025 #6
Since the sewer clowns in this administration won't acknowledge the 5th Amendment rights of the people they... LudwigPastorius Mar 2025 #10
I'd be willing to bet many of the prisoners shown in that ad are not even the ones they deported Bristlecone Mar 2025 #11
One of the more sickening stunts I've seen in our country; she has the kind of face D. Spaulding Mar 2025 #12
Trump likes them that way. Just look at all of the other cheap looking women he surrounds himself with Woodycall Mar 2025 #14
I was expecting 'in front of the SPCA'. Norrrm Mar 2025 #15
That prison isn't even right for actual criminals. AmericaUnderSiege Mar 2025 #18
Just remember, John Roberts and the SCROTUS 6 Hassler Mar 2025 #19
Not so much legal, as the president is immune from prosecution for these crimes. SSJVegeta Mar 2025 #29
A disgusting pos. spanone Mar 2025 #25
Doesn't her photo op violate the Geneva Convention C_U_L8R Mar 2025 #26
Wow, she is really making a fantastic MAGA resume. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #28
In the celebrity world there are vulgar terms for her behavior. Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #27
Trump voters love this shit. It's the reason they voted for him. They literally want to disappear ever dark-skinned sop Mar 2025 #30
She's not afraid of any judge. dreamland Mar 2025 #32
Needs to be one more face behind them bars. bluestarone Mar 2025 #35
K&R UTUSN Mar 2025 #38
Nothing new Ping Tung Mar 2025 #39
She looks like a middle aged only-fans model Mr. Sparkle Mar 2025 #40
PuppyKillMILF47 Celerity Mar 2025 #42
lol Mr. Sparkle Mar 2025 #43

Celerity

(53,548 posts)
24. it looks like a Rolex Cosmograph Daytona 'Panda Dial' in 18K Yellow Gold, which is around 55-60K USD or more new
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 07:13 AM
Mar 2025




https://www.rolex.com/watches/cosmograph-daytona/m126508-0006





Btw, look at that SEK to USD FOREX rate

The USD has really dropped like a rock versus our Swedish krona (crown) as of late (started to really fall around the first 2 days of March, but had been dropping before, it was over 11 SEK to 1 USD for some time)

The Swedish krona has been one of the strongest currencies in the OECD basket lately

lostnfound

(17,383 posts)
41. These photos are WHY they did this, and WHY they WANTED guys with TATTOOs
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 07:53 PM
Mar 2025

One of these Venezuelan men in the El Salvador prison is Neri Alvarado Borges, who would still be working at a bakery in Dallas, and wouldn’t be stuck in an El Salvador prison, if he didn’t have tattoos.
This is the him working in the bakery, and the largest of his tattoos was this one, which stands for supporting autism:

This is him with his younger brother, who has autism.


Mother Jones wrote about his sudden arrest, and here is the reason given by the ICE agents why Neri isn’t in the US anymore:
“Well, you’re here because of your tattoos,” the ICE agent reportedly said. “We’re finding and questioning everyone who has tattoos.”
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2025/03/trump-el-salvador-venezulea-deportation-prison-cecot-bukele/

bdamomma

(69,134 posts)
2. Freaking
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 09:37 PM
Mar 2025

Dog killer. She's not mentally well either.

Pack this regime up and send them to Russia.

Ms. Toad

(38,092 posts)
8. Was she flying the planes?
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 10:02 PM
Mar 2025

Did she issue the order not to turn around?

Was she ordered not to visit El Salvador?

Judicial orders are very specific. The article does not even mention the judicial order, and she did not do anything that I am aware of that violates the order.

As a general rule, judges can't order individuals not to run their mouths - that pesky little thing called the first amendment.

SSJVegeta

(2,240 posts)
9. She openly stated she will ignore a federal judge. Thats called "contempt of court."
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 10:15 PM
Mar 2025

When her agency was specifically ordered to turn the plane around, and she stated to some extent "my agency will not do that," it is defying a federal order.

First amendment right doesn't actually apply to the government outside of preventing it from stopping individuals from speaking -which is what this action, and the recent kidnappings of individuals appears aimed to do.

And for individuals like Noem, in judicial cases, your words can absolutely be used against you, something called "Intent" to commit a crime. Contempt of court is a crime. She openly stated she will ignore a judge's orders and was doing so in her power. That's generally a common sense conclusion.

STOP PEDDLING RIGHT WING TALKING POINTS

Ms. Toad

(38,092 posts)
13. Accurately stating the law is not peddling right wing talking points
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 10:58 PM
Mar 2025

I am an attorney, and not only am I an attorney I taught law for nearly 10 years.. Mere talk, such as she was doing in the advertisement, is not actively defying a judge's order. Individuals do not lose their right to speak solely because they are members of the government.

I can't find any report that Noem was even made aware of the decision to allow the planes to continue, let alone that she ordered them to continue. None of the reports I have seen mention her involvement in that decision. Stating, "to some effect that 'my agency will not do that'" is not the same as acting in violation of an order - absent her knowing participation in authorizing the flights to continue. The judge hasn't even determined, last time I checked, that the attorneys involved even conveyed the judge's order to anyone in the administration with the authority to stop the planes. If the DOJ did not relay the judge's decision to the administration, it is the attorneys who are likely to be in contempt.

Contempt of court is not generally a criminal matter. It is ordinarily a civil matter. Even if it was criminal contempt in this case, mere intent alone is not a crime - and chatter about intending to defy an order is not the same as actually defying it until that chatter is acted on. Whether it can be used as evidence is a different question - but there isn't a single crime which consists solely of intent. All require both a mental state and actions.

Common sense and the law do not always reach the same conclusions

ReRe

(12,164 posts)
17. So, might we presume
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 11:46 PM
Mar 2025

that you don't agree with Michael PoPok/LegalAF's interpretation of Judge Boasburg's Ruling?

Ms. Toad

(38,092 posts)
20. You'll have to be more specific.
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 02:58 AM
Mar 2025

Both about which opinion, and what you think I disagree with.

bdamomma

(69,134 posts)
37. Could it come to this "Can't US Marshalls be called in"
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 09:48 AM
Mar 2025

To arrest her for contempt of court? Just finished watching this. See below. I posted this also in Liberal You Tubers.

LudwigPastorius

(14,047 posts)
10. Since the sewer clowns in this administration won't acknowledge the 5th Amendment rights of the people they...
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 10:21 PM
Mar 2025

are rounding up, they shouldn't be allowed to invoke it when they are eventually put on trial for their crimes.

Bristlecone

(10,983 posts)
11. I'd be willing to bet many of the prisoners shown in that ad are not even the ones they deported
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 10:31 PM
Mar 2025

If not all. Pure stage craft.

D. Spaulding

(441 posts)
12. One of the more sickening stunts I've seen in our country; she has the kind of face
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 10:49 PM
Mar 2025

where it looks as if it's just fake skin covering up reptilian features.

Woodycall

(589 posts)
14. Trump likes them that way. Just look at all of the other cheap looking women he surrounds himself with
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 11:13 PM
Mar 2025

Hassler

(4,739 posts)
19. Just remember, John Roberts and the SCROTUS 6
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 12:03 AM
Mar 2025

Said everything these psychopaths are doing is legal.

SSJVegeta

(2,240 posts)
29. Not so much legal, as the president is immune from prosecution for these crimes.
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 07:51 AM
Mar 2025

They didn't seem to grant the same protections to his cabinet, though.

C_U_L8R

(48,791 posts)
26. Doesn't her photo op violate the Geneva Convention
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 07:40 AM
Mar 2025

and about a zillion other guidelines for civilization... including every bible and holy book?

Irish_Dem

(79,367 posts)
28. Wow, she is really making a fantastic MAGA resume.
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 07:47 AM
Mar 2025

Beefing it up with more and worse crimes.

Irish_Dem

(79,367 posts)
27. In the celebrity world there are vulgar terms for her behavior.
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 07:46 AM
Mar 2025

Kristi Noem is a camera whore who eye fucks the camera.

sop

(17,280 posts)
30. Trump voters love this shit. It's the reason they voted for him. They literally want to disappear ever dark-skinned
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 07:55 AM
Mar 2025

immigrant from America. They don't give a damn about judges' orders and constitutional rights. Trump's followers love him because he hurts the people they hate.

dreamland

(1,121 posts)
32. She's not afraid of any judge.
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 08:34 AM
Mar 2025

Do you think they'll jail her ugly but t? They have their own justice system and they're never to going to see jail cells on the other side because they own the judges. Look at dRump asking Roberts to rein in the judges.

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