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Kristi Noem actively defying a federal judge by filming an ad in front (Original Post) SSJVegeta Mar 26 OP
WWJD Skittles Mar 26 #1
pic (so many elements of fuckbaggery going on here at multiple levels) Celerity Mar 27 #22
I read that's a $60K watch Skittles Mar 27 #23
it looks like a Rolex Cosmograph Daytona 'Panda Dial' in 18K Yellow Gold, which is around 55-60K USD or more new Celerity Mar 27 #24
Hey doesn't bdamomma Mar 27 #33
Looks like the first scene of a porno. Mountainguy Mar 27 #34
They are providing evidence of human rights' violations n/t malaise Mar 27 #36
These photos are WHY they did this, and WHY they WANTED guys with TATTOOs lostnfound Mar 27 #41
Freaking bdamomma Mar 26 #2
This! ๐Ÿ‘†๐Ÿ‘†๐Ÿ‘†๐Ÿ‘†๐Ÿ‘†๐Ÿ‘†๐Ÿ‘†๐Ÿ‘†๐Ÿ‘†๐Ÿ‘† SheltieLover Mar 26 #3
They need to lock HER up. n/t ReRe Mar 27 #16
Dog murderer. Liberal In Texas Mar 27 #31
I completely agree it is sick - Ms. Toad Mar 26 #4
DHS was ordered to return them back to the United States by a Federal Judge. SSJVegeta Mar 26 #7
Was she flying the planes? Ms. Toad Mar 26 #8
She openly stated she will ignore a federal judge. Thats called "contempt of court." SSJVegeta Mar 26 #9
Accurately stating the law is not peddling right wing talking points Ms. Toad Mar 26 #13
So, might we presume ReRe Mar 27 #17
You'll have to be more specific. Ms. Toad Mar 27 #20
Nevermind. ReRe Mar 27 #21
Could it come to this "Can't US Marshalls be called in" bdamomma Mar 27 #37
Wow, she's far gone. Dave Bowman Mar 26 #5
I think we should arm young dogs and goats... Jack Valentino Mar 26 #6
Since the sewer clowns in this administration won't acknowledge the 5th Amendment rights of the people they... LudwigPastorius Mar 26 #10
I'd be willing to bet many of the prisoners shown in that ad are not even the ones they deported Bristlecone Mar 26 #11
One of the more sickening stunts I've seen in our country; she has the kind of face D. Spaulding Mar 26 #12
Trump likes them that way. Just look at all of the other cheap looking women he surrounds himself with Woodycall Mar 27 #14
I was expecting 'in front of the SPCA'. Norrrm Mar 27 #15
That prison isn't even right for actual criminals. AmericaUnderSiege Mar 27 #18
Just remember, John Roberts and the SCROTUS 6 Hassler Mar 27 #19
Not so much legal, as the president is immune from prosecution for these crimes. SSJVegeta Mar 27 #29
A disgusting pos. spanone Mar 27 #25
Doesn't her photo op violate the Geneva Convention C_U_L8R Mar 27 #26
Wow, she is really making a fantastic MAGA resume. Irish_Dem Mar 27 #28
In the celebrity world there are vulgar terms for her behavior. Irish_Dem Mar 27 #27
Trump voters love this shit. It's the reason they voted for him. They literally want to disappear ever dark-skinned sop Mar 27 #30
She's not afraid of any judge. dreamland Mar 27 #32
Needs to be one more face behind them bars. bluestarone Mar 27 #35
K&R UTUSN Mar 27 #38
Nothing new Ping Tung Mar 27 #39
She looks like a middle aged only-fans model Mr. Sparkle Mar 27 #40
PuppyKillMILF47 Celerity Mar 27 #42
lol Mr. Sparkle Mar 27 #43

Celerity

(49,156 posts)
24. it looks like a Rolex Cosmograph Daytona 'Panda Dial' in 18K Yellow Gold, which is around 55-60K USD or more new
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 08:13 AM
Mar 27




https://www.rolex.com/watches/cosmograph-daytona/m126508-0006





Btw, look at that SEK to USD FOREX rate

The USD has really dropped like a rock versus our Swedish krona (crown) as of late (started to really fall around the first 2 days of March, but had been dropping before, it was over 11 SEK to 1 USD for some time)

The Swedish krona has been one of the strongest currencies in the OECD basket lately

lostnfound

(16,909 posts)
41. These photos are WHY they did this, and WHY they WANTED guys with TATTOOs
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 08:53 PM
Mar 27

One of these Venezuelan men in the El Salvador prison is Neri Alvarado Borges, who would still be working at a bakery in Dallas, and wouldnโ€™t be stuck in an El Salvador prison, if he didnโ€™t have tattoos.
This is the him working in the bakery, and the largest of his tattoos was this one, which stands for supporting autism:

This is him with his younger brother, who has autism.


Mother Jones wrote about his sudden arrest, and here is the reason given by the ICE agents why Neri isnโ€™t in the US anymore:
โ€œWell, youโ€™re here because of your tattoos,โ€ the ICE agent reportedly said. โ€œWeโ€™re finding and questioning everyone who has tattoos.โ€
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2025/03/trump-el-salvador-venezulea-deportation-prison-cecot-bukele/

bdamomma

(67,902 posts)
2. Freaking
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 10:37 PM
Mar 26

Dog killer. She's not mentally well either.

Pack this regime up and send them to Russia.

SheltieLover

(65,975 posts)
3. This! ๐Ÿ‘†๐Ÿ‘†๐Ÿ‘†๐Ÿ‘†๐Ÿ‘†๐Ÿ‘†๐Ÿ‘†๐Ÿ‘†๐Ÿ‘†๐Ÿ‘†
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 10:41 PM
Mar 26


Ms. Toad

(36,530 posts)
8. Was she flying the planes?
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 11:02 PM
Mar 26

Did she issue the order not to turn around?

Was she ordered not to visit El Salvador?

Judicial orders are very specific. The article does not even mention the judicial order, and she did not do anything that I am aware of that violates the order.

As a general rule, judges can't order individuals not to run their mouths - that pesky little thing called the first amendment.

SSJVegeta

(256 posts)
9. She openly stated she will ignore a federal judge. Thats called "contempt of court."
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 11:15 PM
Mar 26

When her agency was specifically ordered to turn the plane around, and she stated to some extent "my agency will not do that," it is defying a federal order.

First amendment right doesn't actually apply to the government outside of preventing it from stopping individuals from speaking -which is what this action, and the recent kidnappings of individuals appears aimed to do.

And for individuals like Noem, in judicial cases, your words can absolutely be used against you, something called "Intent" to commit a crime. Contempt of court is a crime. She openly stated she will ignore a judge's orders and was doing so in her power. That's generally a common sense conclusion.

STOP PEDDLING RIGHT WING TALKING POINTS

Ms. Toad

(36,530 posts)
13. Accurately stating the law is not peddling right wing talking points
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 11:58 PM
Mar 26

I am an attorney, and not only am I an attorney I taught law for nearly 10 years.. Mere talk, such as she was doing in the advertisement, is not actively defying a judge's order. Individuals do not lose their right to speak solely because they are members of the government.

I can't find any report that Noem was even made aware of the decision to allow the planes to continue, let alone that she ordered them to continue. None of the reports I have seen mention her involvement in that decision. Stating, "to some effect that 'my agency will not do that'" is not the same as acting in violation of an order - absent her knowing participation in authorizing the flights to continue. The judge hasn't even determined, last time I checked, that the attorneys involved even conveyed the judge's order to anyone in the administration with the authority to stop the planes. If the DOJ did not relay the judge's decision to the administration, it is the attorneys who are likely to be in contempt.

Contempt of court is not generally a criminal matter. It is ordinarily a civil matter. Even if it was criminal contempt in this case, mere intent alone is not a crime - and chatter about intending to defy an order is not the same as actually defying it until that chatter is acted on. Whether it can be used as evidence is a different question - but there isn't a single crime which consists solely of intent. All require both a mental state and actions.

Common sense and the law do not always reach the same conclusions

ReRe

(11,508 posts)
17. So, might we presume
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 12:46 AM
Mar 27

that you don't agree with Michael PoPok/LegalAF's interpretation of Judge Boasburg's Ruling?

Ms. Toad

(36,530 posts)
20. You'll have to be more specific.
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 03:58 AM
Mar 27

Both about which opinion, and what you think I disagree with.

bdamomma

(67,902 posts)
37. Could it come to this "Can't US Marshalls be called in"
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 10:48 AM
Mar 27

To arrest her for contempt of court? Just finished watching this. See below. I posted this also in Liberal You Tubers.

LudwigPastorius

(12,100 posts)
10. Since the sewer clowns in this administration won't acknowledge the 5th Amendment rights of the people they...
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 11:21 PM
Mar 26

are rounding up, they shouldn't be allowed to invoke it when they are eventually put on trial for their crimes.

Bristlecone

(10,671 posts)
11. I'd be willing to bet many of the prisoners shown in that ad are not even the ones they deported
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 11:31 PM
Mar 26

If not all. Pure stage craft.

D. Spaulding

(165 posts)
12. One of the more sickening stunts I've seen in our country; she has the kind of face
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 11:49 PM
Mar 26

where it looks as if it's just fake skin covering up reptilian features.

Woodycall

(451 posts)
14. Trump likes them that way. Just look at all of the other cheap looking women he surrounds himself with
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 12:13 AM
Mar 27

Hassler

(4,203 posts)
19. Just remember, John Roberts and the SCROTUS 6
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 01:03 AM
Mar 27

Said everything these psychopaths are doing is legal.

SSJVegeta

(256 posts)
29. Not so much legal, as the president is immune from prosecution for these crimes.
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 08:51 AM
Mar 27

They didn't seem to grant the same protections to his cabinet, though.

C_U_L8R

(46,997 posts)
26. Doesn't her photo op violate the Geneva Convention
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 08:40 AM
Mar 27

and about a zillion other guidelines for civilization... including every bible and holy book?

Irish_Dem

(67,579 posts)
28. Wow, she is really making a fantastic MAGA resume.
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 08:47 AM
Mar 27

Beefing it up with more and worse crimes.

Irish_Dem

(67,579 posts)
27. In the celebrity world there are vulgar terms for her behavior.
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 08:46 AM
Mar 27

Kristi Noem is a camera whore who eye fucks the camera.

sop

(13,492 posts)
30. Trump voters love this shit. It's the reason they voted for him. They literally want to disappear ever dark-skinned
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 08:55 AM
Mar 27

immigrant from America. They don't give a damn about judges' orders and constitutional rights. Trump's followers love him because he hurts the people they hate.

dreamland

(1,067 posts)
32. She's not afraid of any judge.
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 09:34 AM
Mar 27

Do you think they'll jail her ugly but t? They have their own justice system and they're never to going to see jail cells on the other side because they own the judges. Look at dRump asking Roberts to rein in the judges.

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