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angryxyouth

(323 posts)
Wed Mar 26, 2025, 11:53 PM Mar 2025

HANDS OFF PROTEST 4/05

Incase nobody has posted this already because I personally need to hit the streets

https://handsoff2025.com/?SQF_SOURCE=indivisible

handsoff2025.com

Join us Saturday April 5th.
Donald Trump and Elon Musk think this country belongs to them. We’re taking to the streets nationwide to fight back with a clear message: Hands off!

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HANDS OFF PROTEST 4/05 (Original Post) angryxyouth Mar 2025 OP
Yes! This one is going to be consequential Easterncedar Mar 2025 #1
I'll be with you in spirit Jack Valentino Mar 2025 #2
Post removed Post removed Mar 2025 #3
Other than political violence angryxyouth Mar 2025 #4
So nothing Trexmaster Mar 2025 #6
what do you actually expect WE THE PEOPLE to do to fight FASCISM Skittles Mar 2025 #9
Weak AZJonnie Mar 2025 #5
I've seen the rerun of this movie multiple times Trexmaster Mar 2025 #7
You post a link to 'something new' that you've proposed before but which is in fact nothing new AZJonnie Mar 2025 #8
My point Trexmaster Mar 2025 #10
I already read all your posts on the other thread, and these ones, and you're saying the same thing AZJonnie Mar 2025 #15
This reply is pathetically orange. arthritisR_US Mar 2025 #11
What are you expecting people to do? Trexmaster Mar 2025 #13
You're not fooling anybody. (nt) Paladin Mar 2025 #20
Your argument is what doesn't work blubunyip Mar 2025 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author arthritisR_US Mar 2025 #12
When a large number of people actually join tavernier Mar 2025 #16
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2025 #21
Your comment was bdamomma Mar 2025 #24
Then don't do anything bif Mar 2025 #17
You have seriously misread the situation. Qutzupalotl Mar 2025 #23
Looks like they're scared of this, so I guess we're on to something... Think. Again. Mar 2025 #14
Yes, I read here about this last week and found where it will be in my city. elocs Mar 2025 #18
Three of us going from our house. Greybnk48 Mar 2025 #19
There is one near me!! I signed up. LT Barclay Mar 2025 #25
I will def JBTaurus83 Mar 2025 #26
When we get to 3.5% of the population we win! Easterncedar Mar 2025 #27
Lots of Vermonters promising to show up in Montpelier at noon. democrank Mar 2025 #28
Irony... "hands off" but some of these folks plan on mayhem, vandalism and violence. WarGamer Mar 2025 #29

Easterncedar

(5,425 posts)
1. Yes! This one is going to be consequential
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 12:29 AM
Mar 2025

There is a lot of energy gathering.

Indivisible is worth checking out and joining.

Jack Valentino

(4,261 posts)
2. I'll be with you in spirit
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 12:39 AM
Mar 2025

and hopefully promoting it on my various social media accounts

God Bless You.

Response to angryxyouth (Original post)

angryxyouth

(323 posts)
4. Other than political violence
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 01:15 AM
Mar 2025

Our numbers are all we have right now to make a point. Hopefully it won’t come to political violence, butI if it does, I know many liberals who would never would have armed themselves before this administration who are arming themselves now. Some of my gay and x friends are also talking about joining socialist militias. Me personally? I’m so disabled that I will be protesting from my scooter. I also think weaponized drones are a better answer.

Skittles

(169,258 posts)
9. what do you actually expect WE THE PEOPLE to do to fight FASCISM
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 02:33 AM
Mar 2025

go ahead, tell us what you mean by "....the intention of death involved"

 

Trexmaster

(63 posts)
7. I've seen the rerun of this movie multiple times
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 01:40 AM
Mar 2025

I know the mistakes of the past and what it'll take to do something new.

That something new is the crimson line that nobody, with their brains fried, will risk it for obvious reasons.

AZJonnie

(2,713 posts)
8. You post a link to 'something new' that you've proposed before but which is in fact nothing new
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 02:30 AM
Mar 2025

You've definitely made your point: "protests are useless", but in terms of a practical alternative, you've offered nothing of substance. Other than perhaps an insinuation that people need to be willing to die when they attend protests, and then maybe they'll 'work', based on your knowing 'the mistakes of the past'? Is this what you calling 'something new'?

 

Trexmaster

(63 posts)
10. My point
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 03:07 AM
Mar 2025

People are wasting time for the nth time with something that doesn't work (arguably, never worked ever).
As for...

but in terms of a practical alternative, you've offered nothing of substance.


I did, previously; yet I know nobody encouraged to participate in these marches, protests, gathering etc., aren't there to do differently than in previous times, generations, other than provide materials for social media, mass-media news cycles, and for the police to show who're really the bosses when violence, beatings, killings, are at play.

Crowds aren't there to die or "unalive" the monopoly of violence operatives (police, paramilitary, military, federal officers etc.), and the latter are just there to re-re-re-re...-re-reiterate that they're still in power and ready to "unalive" people, the same crowds doing nothing while marching/protesting/gathering/etc.

That's the supreme point: nothing is done, nothing is being achieved (as always...), everything is room temperature lukewarm as always – but hey, at least one gets to do screenshots to upload on social media and, maybe, see their faces on some news media cycles reruns on the internet the next day or so.

Nobody is serious, I've argued why.

AZJonnie

(2,713 posts)
15. I already read all your posts on the other thread, and these ones, and you're saying the same thing
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 04:06 AM
Mar 2025

What I'm asking is what alternative action(s) would convey the appropriate level of 'seriousness' in your estimation, and when you describe what these are, please describe the mechanism(s) by which they will more effectively promote the change we'd like to see? Or is it that you think protesting is a waste of time, but so is anything else one might actually or practically endeavor to do, so we're basically just fucked with no available recourse?

 

Trexmaster

(63 posts)
13. What are you expecting people to do?
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 03:24 AM
Mar 2025

Are you going with a weapon?
Are you going to shoot at federal enforcers, national guards, SWATs etc?
Are you going to burn down property in gated communities of wealthy or senior executives?
Are the people being encouraged to participate going there with the intent of losing their lives or "unaliving" those with riot gear?

No, really – what do you expect to work that hasn't worked since Wall Street 2009-2010?
Re-living your parents' or grandparents' '60s or '70s vibe student protests?


I've lived through the same proverbial life movie every time. I know what doesn't work.
The next step is a crimson line that not a lot of people willing to trespass for, again, obvious reasons.

If you're going there to gather college credit, at least be honest about it, otherwise... same old same old that never worked (I know).

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tavernier

(14,218 posts)
16. When a large number of people actually join
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 05:47 AM
Mar 2025

a National protest out in the streets, politicians who hold office start to pay attention. They understand that these are actual voters and that others watching are encouraged to see that they are not alone in their anger and frustration. The whole point is to let the citizens of this nation know that they are not helpless or without a voice. People who don’t want to “be in the streets” can take other active rolls such as registering to vote, or voting for the first time.
Don’t you believe that the best way to lose this precious thing called democracy is by ignoring those who want to rob us of it?

Response to tavernier (Reply #16)

bdamomma

(69,139 posts)
24. Your comment was
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 10:39 AM
Mar 2025

on target, and yes, our voices being heard helps. Don't you see GQP Representatives hiding away from their constituents in town halls. Yes, it does help, it shows their constituents' how spineless they are.

They do follow our lead when we get out there, just freaking do something, "good trouble" like Representative John Lewis said.

Thank you tavernier

Never do this:

bif

(26,605 posts)
17. Then don't do anything
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 07:34 AM
Mar 2025

And stay at home. Why crap on other peoples activism? Sheesh!

Qutzupalotl

(15,650 posts)
23. You have seriously misread the situation.
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 10:20 AM
Mar 2025

No one is saying protests are “impotent” but you … for some reason.

Social Security is being dismantled. People are going to die if it collapses, and so are willing to die trying to save it. No violence on our part is necessary, but if violence is inflicted on us, so be it.

Pushback works, and it will continue, like it or not. You're not going to succeed in discouraging us from our only peaceful option.

 

elocs

(24,486 posts)
18. Yes, I read here about this last week and found where it will be in my city.
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 08:38 AM
Mar 2025

I think I will bring my Anonymous, V for Vendetta mask to it to wear. I also have a bunch of black Covid masks that I could bring also.

Greybnk48

(10,659 posts)
19. Three of us going from our house.
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 09:30 AM
Mar 2025

We're protesting in our town from 11:00 to 1:00 (at least), right downtown.

LT Barclay

(3,168 posts)
25. There is one near me!! I signed up.
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 08:53 PM
Mar 2025

Just so you know, Moveon.org also maintains a list of events.

JBTaurus83

(847 posts)
26. I will def
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 08:57 PM
Mar 2025

Be attending in Philly! I’m glad these protests and rallies are all gaining steam.

Easterncedar

(5,425 posts)
27. When we get to 3.5% of the population we win!
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 09:01 PM
Mar 2025

That’s one theory, anyway. I am willing to try!

Indivisible has good information, worth checking out their website if you are interested.

Thanks for posting, angryxyouth!

democrank

(12,066 posts)
28. Lots of Vermonters promising to show up in Montpelier at noon.
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 09:38 PM
Mar 2025

Protests CAN work. I learned that participating decades ago.

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