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Eugene

(66,732 posts) Thu Mar 27, 2025, 02:52 PM Mar 2025

Trump shifts blame for Signalgate texts onto 'lower level' mystery employee

Source: The Independent

Trump shifts blame for Signalgate texts onto ‘lower level’ mystery employee

In an interview with Newsmax, Trump offered a new theory on how journalist Jeffrey Goldberg of The Atlantic ended up on a Signal group chat with senior officials discussing bombing plans in Yemen earlier this month

Mike Bedigan
in New York
Wednesday 26 March 2025 05:52 GMT

Donald Trump has shifted the blame for a major security blunder in which details of U.S. military operations in Yemen were leaked to a journalist on a secret group chat to an unidentified, “lower level” White House employee that worked for his National Security Adviser Michael Waltz.

Trump offered the new theory in an interview on Newsmax Tuesday evening on how Jeffrey Goldberg, editor-in-chief of The Atlantic, ended up on the Signal group chat in which the top-secret plans were discussed.

“What it was, we believe, is somebody that was on the line with permission, somebody that was with Mike Waltz, worked for Mike Waltz at a lower level, had, I guess, Goldberg's number or called through the app, and somehow this guy ended up on the call,” the president said.

Trump’s explanation followed an earlier TV appearance by Waltz, who took “full responsibility” for allowing Goldberg to gain access to the discussions.

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Read more: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-newsmax-interview-signal-text-blame-b2721590.html

Alternate link: https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-shifts-blame-signalgate-texts-014254682.html

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The Rump administration is full bullshit mode. Anything but the truth is spewing out, anything.

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Trump shifts blame for Signalgate texts onto 'lower level' mystery employee (Original Post) Eugene Mar 2025 OP

Oh, so lower level employees can add anyone to the chat with no oversight? Prairie Gates Mar 2025 #1

This has nothing to do with Goldberg gab13by13 Mar 2025 #2

Lower level employees can log in any random person to a meeting of high level govt employees? Irish_Dem Mar 2025 #3

I'm pretty sure it wasn't the coffee boy calguy Mar 2025 #4

O. Z. Staffer strikes again ! nt eppur_se_muova Mar 2025 #5

F'ing cowards. Biophilic Mar 2025 #6

President Bystander: Trump appears out of the loop in his own White House LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2025 #7

That's the new lie to kick the can down the road a little further. tanyev Mar 2025 #8

It's one of the "many people" kacekwl Mar 2025 #9

Prairie Gates

(7,131 posts)

1. Oh, so lower level employees can add anyone to the chat with no oversight?

Reply to Eugene (Original post)

Thu Mar 27, 2025, 02:55 PM

Mar 2025

Remarkably, this excuse (though surely bullshit meant to save Watlz) makes it even worse.

It's harder to jump on the Zoom for a 200 level college class than it is to get on the Houthi PC Small Group channel?

gab13by13

(31,061 posts)

2. This has nothing to do with Goldberg

Reply to Eugene (Original post)

Thu Mar 27, 2025, 02:56 PM

Mar 2025

this is a right wing talking point.

Not including Goldberg in the group chat would not have made what they did legal.

Where are Democrats controlling the narrative?

Irish_Dem

(79,372 posts)

3. Lower level employees can log in any random person to a meeting of high level govt employees?

Reply to Eugene (Original post)

Thu Mar 27, 2025, 03:01 PM

Mar 2025

calguy

(6,043 posts)

4. I'm pretty sure it wasn't the coffee boy

Reply to Eugene (Original post)

Thu Mar 27, 2025, 03:01 PM

Mar 2025

eppur_se_muova

(40,864 posts)

5. O. Z. Staffer strikes again ! nt

Reply to Eugene (Original post)

Thu Mar 27, 2025, 03:16 PM

Mar 2025

Biophilic

(6,379 posts)

6. F'ing cowards.

Reply to Eugene (Original post)

Thu Mar 27, 2025, 03:16 PM

Mar 2025

That’s it, hide behind your “lower level” employees. What a crock of shit. These are really horrible people.

LetMyPeopleVote

(174,290 posts)

7. President Bystander: Trump appears out of the loop in his own White House

Reply to Eugene (Original post)

Thu Mar 27, 2025, 03:47 PM

Mar 2025

Confronted with key questions about life-or-death issues, the president is offering the public a lot of shrugged shoulders and blank stares.

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https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/president-bystander-trump-appears-loop-white-house-rcna198357

Given all of this, it stands to reason that Donald Trump would be up to speed on the details and the status of the search for the American service members. He is, after all, the president and the commander in chief of the armed forces. And yet, HuffPost noted:

Donald Trump appeared unaware on Wednesday that four U.S. soldiers had gone missing during a NATO training exercise in Lithuania. When asked by a reporter if he had been briefed on the situation that began to unfurl hours before, the president replied, “No, I haven’t.”

He didn’t elaborate. In fact, the president simply moved on to another question.
https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:4llrhdclvdlmmynkwsmg5tdc/post/3llcri5hhvg2b

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......Taken together, it’s difficult not to wonder just how out of the loop the president is in his own White House.

Five years ago this month, as the severity of the pandemic came into focus, The New York Times published a memorable analysis that included a word to describe Trump that stood out for me as significant: “bystander.”

“While he presents himself as the nation’s commanding figure, Mr. Trump has essentially become a bystander as school superintendents, sports commissioners, college presidents, governors and business owners across the country take it upon themselves to shut down much of American life without clear guidance from the president,” the Times explained.

A half-decade later, it appears President Bystander has returned. Trump has taken a keen interest in playing golf, renaming the Gulf of Mexico, banning paper straws, watching an enormous amount of television and helping steer the Kennedy Center — but on life-or-death issues, he’s offering the public a lot of shrugged shoulders and blank stares.

For a president who’s heavily invested in the idea that his immediate predecessor had no idea what was going on around him, Trump’s apparent cluelessness should be a serious problem.