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Enough Is Enough (Original Post) MayReasonRule Mar 2025 OP
Mighty task. cachukis Mar 2025 #1
100% -- Our Freedoms Are Reason Based -- When Delusion Rules Our Freedoms Cease To Exist -- Which Is Why... MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #3
Based on the homegirl Mar 2025 #9
Had no idea. cachukis Mar 2025 #12
Lol... Yeah... "Kinda"... MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #18
Nice take on famous saying. It can happen because "what we can change" is fluid & indeterminate until after the event.nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2025 #2
I'm Not Certain I'm Familiar With "The Saying" You've Referenced... It's Intriguing... MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #4
I believe they have referenced cksmithy Mar 2025 #7
I am thinking that Codifer Mar 2025 #8
That's the one. I think it might be older than them but they certainly use it. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2025 #13
It is believed to have originated with Reinhold Niebuhr lastlib Mar 2025 #29
Thanks. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2025 #30
So The "Spin" Is "Fuck That And Fuck Fascists Be The Change You Want To See"... MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #19
See post 10 FailureToCommunicate Mar 2025 #11
Post 8 and post 10 have it. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2025 #16
From AA - the Serenity Prayer Mountain Mule Mar 2025 #28
I know it well. ChazInAz Mar 2025 #33
44 Years - Wow! Mountain Mule Mar 2025 #38
Just had my AA Birthday ChazInAz Apr 2025 #39
So true. cachukis Mar 2025 #14
Perfect! NotHardly Mar 2025 #5
Well said. 👍 Dave Bowman Mar 2025 #6
Even Reinhold Niebuhr would agree that there are times to act, not accept. FailureToCommunicate Mar 2025 #10
The difference fluctuates. What we CAN change is sometimes dependent on what HAS changed Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2025 #15
Great wisdom. hamsterjill Mar 2025 #17
When you're out of power Meowmee Mar 2025 #20
Amen & Hallelujah! Cha Mar 2025 #21
You have a plan? Hekate Mar 2025 #22
My Plan Is To Work Within Arms Reach Of My Ass... MayReasonRule Mar 2025 #23
The Serenity Prayer in its entirty. Radical Lutheran Mar 2025 #24
Missouri Synod in the house! marble falls Mar 2025 #27
ELCA Lutheran Here Radical Lutheran Apr 2025 #40
We're all reading from the same book. marble falls Apr 2025 #41
Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2025 #37
The Serenity Prayer, in its Entirety Radical Lutheran Mar 2025 #25
And I've heard that the shortened version of the Serenity Prayers is Marie Marie Mar 2025 #26
Exactly 👍 TommieMommy Mar 2025 #31
How's this Ennui anyhow Mar 2025 #32
You can lead an idiot to White House, but it won't necessary make him Presidential. marble falls Mar 2025 #34
Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2025 #36
DAYUM!!! calimary Mar 2025 #35

MayReasonRule

(4,008 posts)
3. 100% -- Our Freedoms Are Reason Based -- When Delusion Rules Our Freedoms Cease To Exist -- Which Is Why...
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 07:34 PM
Mar 2025

The reasoned among us will never desist.
The reasoned among us will always resist.

May reason rule across our troubled land!

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
2. Nice take on famous saying. It can happen because "what we can change" is fluid & indeterminate until after the event.nt
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 07:32 PM
Mar 2025

MayReasonRule

(4,008 posts)
4. I'm Not Certain I'm Familiar With "The Saying" You've Referenced... It's Intriguing...
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 07:35 PM
Mar 2025

Might you post the full quote?

cksmithy

(418 posts)
7. I believe they have referenced
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 08:11 PM
Mar 2025

a religious based thought about "accepting things that are out of your control," it is ok to try to change or improve things you can actually change, but if you can't change it just accept it. It's like be stuck in a highway traffic/accident. You can't move your car because the traffic stopped. Can't move. We don't have to stop, or accept the baloney they are serving. We do need to start changing these daily bs situations. The things we cannot accept, have to be changed..

Codifer

(1,142 posts)
8. I am thinking that
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 08:15 PM
Mar 2025

this is from a credo of AA, Alcoholics Anonymous.

I will attempt to paraphrase:

"May gawd grant me the humility to accept the things I cannot change,

The couirage to change the things I cannot accept,

And the wisdom to know the difference."

I am probably wrong.

lastlib

(27,422 posts)
29. It is believed to have originated with Reinhold Niebuhr
Sun Mar 30, 2025, 06:38 AM
Mar 2025

in the 1930s. The OP quote has been attributed to Angela Davis, and was revived in the Crime Minister's first term.

MayReasonRule

(4,008 posts)
19. So The "Spin" Is "Fuck That And Fuck Fascists Be The Change You Want To See"...
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 08:47 PM
Mar 2025

That's the point....

Fascist lives don't matter.

Mountain Mule

(1,174 posts)
28. From AA - the Serenity Prayer
Sun Mar 30, 2025, 03:08 AM
Mar 2025

God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change
The courage to change the things I can
And the wisdom to know the difference.

Mountain Mule

(1,174 posts)
38. 44 Years - Wow!
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 04:04 PM
Mar 2025

Congratulations! 44 years a day at a time. You Sir, are an inspiration for us all.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,581 posts)
10. Even Reinhold Niebuhr would agree that there are times to act, not accept.
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 08:17 PM
Mar 2025

"God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
the courage to change the things I can,
and the wisdom to know the difference."

- Attributed to Reinhold Niebuhr, Lutheran theologian (1892–1971)

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
15. The difference fluctuates. What we CAN change is sometimes dependent on what HAS changed
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 08:29 PM
Mar 2025

Anger fluctuates.

Downsides fluctuate. If there is less or nothing to lose, then a lot can be done.

hamsterjill

(16,912 posts)
17. Great wisdom.
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 08:31 PM
Mar 2025

Now, can someone please unite us and tell us what we can do to change the things we cannot accept? There are many people, I believe, who are willing if they just KNEW where/what/when, etc. The town halls are certainly a start.

MayReasonRule

(4,008 posts)
23. My Plan Is To Work Within Arms Reach Of My Ass...
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 09:13 PM
Mar 2025

...as needed.

Nothing more.
Nothing less.

Be the a part of the change one desires to see.

Each must choose in the moment what is the next correct thing to do given their circumstances and access to "resources".

For instance... walk-in safes are wholly under rated in my personal experience.

Radical Lutheran

(21 posts)
24. The Serenity Prayer in its entirty.
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 09:15 PM
Mar 2025

The Serenity Prayer God grant me the serenity To accept the things I cannot change; Courage to change the things I can; And wisdom to know the difference. Living one day at a time; Enjoying one moment at a time; Accepting hardships as the pathway to peace; Taking, as He did, this sinful world As it is, not as I would have it; Trusting that He will make all things right If I surrender to His Will; So that I may be reasonably happy in this life And supremely happy with Him Forever and ever in the next. Amen. (prayer attributed to Reinhold Neibuhr, 1892-1971)

Read more at: https://www.lords-prayer-words.com/famous_prayers/god_grant_me_the_serenity.html

This was written during the NAZI AUTHORITARIAN Regieme during which Neibuhr and Boenhoffer were struggling so it is NOT simple minded dribble but lived wisdom. The Center of This is about finding the Wisdom and the Courage "to change the things I CAN."
This is not simple pacifism it is BOLD ACTION accepting there are consequences and hardships, NO MATTER OUR CHOICES, but embracing these actions boldly: trusting that they are little steps leading to justice in some way. Will some attempts to change the things we can... be mistakes... YES. BUT TO DO NOTHING IS NOT AN OPTION. To do nothing is to Aquiess to EVIL and this is definitely the WRONG ACTION. RESIST, RESIST, RESIST. Some will be non-violent. Some may chose other options. We each must decide where we stand. The AUTHORITARIANS rarely are swayed by non-violence. That requires empathy. IF they have None, THEY have made the choice, of how the people must respond. God(dess) Help us ALL.

Radical Lutheran

(21 posts)
25. The Serenity Prayer, in its Entirety
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 09:24 PM
Mar 2025

The Serenity Prayer God grant me the serenity To accept the things I cannot change; Courage to change the things I can; And wisdom to know the difference. Living one day at a time; Enjoying one moment at a time; Accepting hardships as the pathway to peace; Taking, as He did, this sinful world As it is, not as I would have it; Trusting that He will make all things right If I surrender to His Will; So that I may be reasonably happy in this life And supremely happy with Him Forever and ever in the next. Amen. (prayer attributed to Reinhold Neibuhr, 1892-1971)

Read more at: https://www.lords-prayer-words.com/famous_prayers/god_grant_me_the_serenity.html

This was written during the NAZI AUTHORITARIAN Regieme during which Neibuhr and Boenhoffer were struggling so it is NOT simple minded dribble but lived wisdom. The Center of This is about finding the Wisdom and the Courage "to change the things I CAN."
This is not simple pacifism it is BOLD ACTION accepting there are consequences and hardships, NO MATTER OUR CHOICES, but embracing these actions boldly: trusting that they are little steps leading to justice in some way. Will some attempts to change the things we can... be mistakes... YES. BUT TO DO NOTHING IS NOT AN OPTION. To do nothing is to Aquiess to EVIL and this is definitely the WRONG ACTION. RESIST, RESIST, RESIST. Some will be non-violent. Some may chose other options. We each must decide where we stand. The AUTHORITARIANS rarely are swayed by non-violence. That requires empathy. IF they have None, THEY have made the choice, of how the people must respond. God(dess) Help us ALL.

Marie Marie

(10,848 posts)
26. And I've heard that the shortened version of the Serenity Prayers is
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 10:32 PM
Mar 2025

FUCK IT. Yea well, not this time. Like Radical Lutheran said above: To do nothing is not an option!!! Show up at the nationwide protest on Apr 5th and make your presence and voices be known. RESIST!!!

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