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This is the state's new indecent exposure statute:
https://legislature.idaho.gov/wp-content/uploads/sessioninfo/2025/legislation/H0270.pdf
18-4116. INDECENT EXPOSURE. (1) Every person is guilty of a misdemeanor if the person who willfully and lewdly, either:
10 (1) (a) Exposes his or her genitals,; exposes developed female breasts, including the areola and nipple; exposes adult male breasts, including the areola and nipple, that have been medically or hormonally altered to appear like developing or developed female breasts; exposes artificial breasts, including the areola and nipple, intended to resemble female breasts; or displays toys or products intended to resemble male or female genitals in any public place, or in any place where there is present another person or persons who are offended thereby; or
18 (2) (b) Procures, counsels, or assists any person so to expose his or her genitals,; to expose developed female breasts, including the areola and nipple; to expose adult male breasts, including the areola and nipple, that have been medically or hormonally altered to appear like developing or developed female breasts; to expose artificial breasts, including the areola and nipple, intended to resemble female breasts; or to display toys or products intended to resemble male or female genitals where there is present another person or persons who are offended thereby is guilty of a misdemeanor.
msongs
(73,019 posts)BOSSHOG
(44,611 posts)Imagine a group of wrinkled old white guys in a secure room in the state Capitol drafting this legislation.
mercuryblues
(16,148 posts)How many of them have man breasts?
Jerry2144
(3,167 posts)Theyre called moobs
dweller
(27,778 posts)Will be littered with the loosened bumpers for miles and miles upon the pristine sands
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Wicked Blue
(8,410 posts)Blues Heron
(8,255 posts)get a life dudes, jeeziz
PedroXimenez
(673 posts)they're Nutz grabbers!
magicarpet
(18,456 posts)You can get away with it too if you are a Christo-Fascist.
Buns_of_Fire
(18,977 posts)Geez. Not even the Bible gets that granular. Again and again and again.
travelingthrulife
(4,322 posts)Ilsa
(63,780 posts)babies in public? Sometimes the nipple or areola is exposed, even accidentally.
Puritan hypocrites!
jmowreader
(52,870 posts)paleotn
(21,415 posts)New bumper sticker...sorry Virginia.....Idaho is for fools.
chicoescuela
(2,590 posts)RainCaster
(13,367 posts)That so wrong... Every hick needs his nutz.
Norrrm
(3,875 posts)Sometimes indecent exposure is not that shocking.
unblock
(55,859 posts)Can't say how they'll enforce it, but afaik, topless beaches typically don't involve anyone exposing anything "lewdly".
If it comes to court, a lawyer could certainly argue that the law specifically includes that word to make it clear that non-lewd exposure is not a being banned.
Chellee
(2,281 posts)"...where there is present another person or persons who are offended thereby is guilty of a misdemeanor."
unblock
(55,859 posts)If it's not done willfully, it's not a misdemeanor. Full stop,
If it's not done lewdly, it's not a misdemeanor. Full stop.
That's 100% unambiguous from the construction if the sentence.
The word "lewdly" itself is subject to interpretation, but there's doubt that it applies. There would have to get a separate provision or a "notwithstanding the foregoing" part in order to override the earlier restriction that it has to be willfully and lewdly.
Chellee
(2,281 posts)any reasonably competent attorney should be able to argue that the statute doesn't apply to really anyone except flashers? People who are trying to shock and upset people with their nudity?
So toddlers that are 100% done with wearing their clothes, breastfeeding moms, people just sunbathing on the beach, wardrobe malfunctions, those people would be safe even if there was some deeply offended, overly pious, whack-a-doodle there calling down both the wrath of God, and the Idaho state legislature?
unblock
(55,859 posts)so in the end, they're not really banning being topless, they're banning certain actions and/or speech while topless.
trials may come down was she just walking or was she moving things suggestively.
Silent Type
(12,412 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(101,612 posts)maxsolomon
(38,108 posts)or Momos, or a combination of the 2.
Also: where are these beaches?
Jack Valentino
(4,251 posts)would ever move to Idaho in the first place---
and if she was born there, she would have emigrated by now.
Seems like another of those "performative bills" to me...
Cheezoholic
(3,510 posts)Kaleva
(40,131 posts)jmowreader
(52,870 posts)I live near Coeur dAlene and the beach at Coeur dAlene Lake is a big tourist attraction. In Sandpoint the same is true for Lake Pend Oreille. Youre only surfing at either one with a wakeboat, but you can do other beach stuff.
mackdaddy
(1,934 posts)Bare Bresticules and fake danglers were just corrupting the minds.
jmowreader
(52,870 posts)A Nampa city councilor named Sebastian Griffin went to Canyon County Pride one year (apparently so he'd have something to harrumph about at the next city council meeting) and saw a topless woman there. He tried to get the police to make her cover up or leave, and the cops told him what she was doing was legal.
Abolishinist
(2,878 posts)jmowreader
(52,870 posts)It is illegal in Idaho to have a strip club that serves liquor so, the one strip club up here has a bar next to it. Get juiced in the bar, go next door for the show.
tanyev
(48,580 posts)jmowreader
(52,870 posts)We have big lakes and rivers here. There are many places along them that have beach-like sand that people use for such.
tanyev
(48,580 posts)Bet there arent many days in the year this Texas gal would consider hot enough to be beach-worthy.
Srkdqltr
(9,314 posts)Geeze Someone someplace had a good time writing.that.
jmowreader
(52,870 posts)Srkdqltr
(9,314 posts)WestMichRad
(2,886 posts)
my excited she-male snowman, wouldnt it?
58Sunliner
(6,273 posts)jmowreader
(52,870 posts)The Idaho legislative session lasts months when they could get everything necessary done in a week. So, once they pass the budget, the tax cut, the bill relaxing gun laws and the anti abortion bill they run out of anything to do and start writing bills like this.
UpInArms
(53,961 posts)eom
J_William_Ryan
(3,285 posts)Could be a First Amendment violation, freedom of expression.
Otherwise, such is the authoritarian, fascist right.
Diraven
(1,795 posts)Random people can just walk in, claim they are offended from the sex toy displays, and then get them shut down.
wolfie001
(6,963 posts)Big time. Parking lots will be full of Idaho license plates
onethatcares
(16,955 posts)driving your megamaga coal hauling truck on the "Beaches of Idaho" while flaunting your areolas and nipples?
Funny thing though, I was just talking to a friend the other day and mentioned that I was going to take 2 weeks off in order to drive from Tampa Fl to the topless beaches of Idaho but they only have 3.4 hours of summer and I couldn't figure out which month that might be in so......................scratch that bucket list itme.
Emile
(40,321 posts)Mysterian
(6,148 posts)My guess.
jmowreader
(52,870 posts)When they put in the state line between Idaho and Utah it ran through Mormon country, so weve always had Mormons here.
milestogo
(22,451 posts)They are a sign of male insecurity for those who can't afford sports cars.
Renew Deal
(84,650 posts)bluestarone
(21,067 posts)Marthe48
(22,628 posts)get a muffler.
Tommy Carcetti
(44,385 posts)But I will admit "beaches" aren't the first thing that came to mind for me regarding Idaho.
underpants
(194,600 posts)GreenWave
(12,211 posts)