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Aviation Pro

(14,139 posts)
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 08:21 AM Monday

"And many Republicans see tariffs as a means to pay for extending Trump's tax cuts."

And there you have it, these oxygen thieves are using tariffs as a tax hike on consumers to pay for their billionaire patron's tax cuts.

Bet you didn't see that coming, you fucking MAGAts. Bet you didn't read Project 2025, you fucking undereducated dolts.

Here, let me extend my hand out to help.

Yoink, nope. Suffer and die like the rest of us, fuckwads.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/brace-for-impact-america-trump-s-tariffs-will-soon-hit-your-bank-accounts-opinion/ar-AA1BZ5du?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=12d50b8faedc4c1092fdb05107aff09b&ei=15

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"And many Republicans see tariffs as a means to pay for extending Trump's tax cuts." (Original Post) Aviation Pro Monday OP
I do not see how inflation gab13by13 Monday #1
Since Jan. 20th or so, I'm only buying essentials and helping family wolfie001 Monday #7
They won't, of course krkaufman Monday #14
Here is how I see it working whopis01 Monday #22
They are spinning the tariffs as being a tax cut Blue Full Moon Monday #2
Tariffs are taxes. I usually write "tariff tax" instead of just "tariff", to make the point clear and repeat it. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Monday #5
To Canada, only 34% of the voting pool pulled the lever for that fat orange moron wolfie001 Monday #8
My protest sign for this weekend Blue Full Moon Monday #10
That's the way. Short, sweet, very understandable. +1 . . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Monday #12
Math is not their strength. C_U_L8R Monday #3
And conning their idiots into believing they care for them while all they want is their money. Justice matters. Monday #19
Econ geniuses think swapping tariff tax for income tax is worth the cost of tanking the economy Bernardo de La Paz Monday #4
"Ha ha. American proles are Suckers and Losers. Ha ha." - G.O.P. BoRaGard Monday #6
Old King George learned a thing or two about tariff-taxes bucolic_frolic Monday #9
Tariffs and retaliatory tariffs mean less growth or even contraction, which means less tax revenue and more outgoing aid unblock Monday #11
They will fail miserably. twodogsbarking Monday #13
Ok, as usual, I'm confused by Republican thinking... surfered Monday #15
I'll Add This modrepub Monday #23
Alexander Hamilton initially wanted tariffs to fund the centralized government Deminpenn Monday #16
Who do they think pays tariffs? IronLionZion Monday #17
Mexico will after they finish paying for the wall. Ray Bruns Monday #18
Whereas in Canada our PM (if elected) Bev54 Monday #20
I've been buying things that I think might need to be replaced since he started his Autumn Monday #21

gab13by13

(27,397 posts)
1. I do not see how inflation
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 08:27 AM
Monday

will pay for tax cuts to billionaires? Consumers will cut back on spending.

wolfie001

(4,391 posts)
7. Since Jan. 20th or so, I'm only buying essentials and helping family
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 08:41 AM
Monday

That's it. Not until the fat orange menace is dead or gone will I loosen the wallet. Not a penny more. Shopping Union too. FUCK WALMART!

krkaufman

(13,825 posts)
14. They won't, of course
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 09:18 AM
Monday

They’re just using the standard GOP approach of banking imagined revenues in order to justify and balance the lost federal income from the tax cuts.

whopis01

(3,808 posts)
22. Here is how I see it working
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 11:05 AM
Monday

When you say that "consumers will cut back on spending", I think it is more correct to say "consumers will cut back on purchasing".

Meaning that they will be spending the same amount, just getting less for it. Consumers have a limited budget to spend from. As prices increase across the board, a larger percentage of that money will be spent on essentials. So spending doesn't really go down - just what you get for that amount of money goes down.

In the case of tariffed products, the additional cost is a tax, paid for by the consumer. Those consumers are receiving the same income and paying the same income tax - so this is in addition to what taxes they would have paid otherwise. So there are your additional taxes to offset cuts elsewhere.

The lower you are on the income scale, the greater a percentage of your budget goes towards essentials. That means you have less choices to reduce spending, or even invest instead of spending. The higher percentage of essentials in your budget, the harder you will be hit by this and the more taxes you will end up paying.

Bernardo de La Paz

(53,892 posts)
5. Tariffs are taxes. I usually write "tariff tax" instead of just "tariff", to make the point clear and repeat it. . . nt
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 08:35 AM
Monday

wolfie001

(4,391 posts)
8. To Canada, only 34% of the voting pool pulled the lever for that fat orange moron
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 08:43 AM
Monday

Our problem is the Electoral College and Rupert Murdoch. Enter the illegal alien Elon Musk and the rest is

Justice matters.

(8,229 posts)
19. And conning their idiots into believing they care for them while all they want is their money.
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 10:50 AM
Monday

Their math is good on that, their suckers fall for their lies all the time.

Bernardo de La Paz

(53,892 posts)
4. Econ geniuses think swapping tariff tax for income tax is worth the cost of tanking the economy
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 08:33 AM
Monday

Further, tariffs are a regressive tax: who buys cheap vacuum cleaners at Walmart? Not Bessent, Johnson, Lutnick, Mucus, or tRump.

BoRaGard

(4,721 posts)
6. "Ha ha. American proles are Suckers and Losers. Ha ha." - G.O.P.
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 08:37 AM
Monday

"And now, back to our gourmet golfing. Ha ha." - G.O.P.

unblock

(54,905 posts)
11. Tariffs and retaliatory tariffs mean less growth or even contraction, which means less tax revenue and more outgoing aid
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 08:57 AM
Monday

Tariffs are a net negative on federal finances.

Tax cuts can stimulate the economy, but giving it to the rich, especially by merely extending current law, is extremely inefficient because the rich are the most likely to invest overseas, which doesn't help us, compared to giving it to the poor, who are the most likely to spend it here, which does help us.

But of course the media parrots the Republican line and will tell us deficits down matter anyway.

surfered

(5,880 posts)
15. Ok, as usual, I'm confused by Republican thinking...
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 09:20 AM
Monday

…They claim the purpose of the tariffs on foreign goods is to make them more expensive and we will choose to buy American products. But if we buy only American goods, then we wouldn’t pay any tariff and there would be no additional tax revenue.

But if we still buy foreign goods and pay the tariffs, generating all that tax revenue, why does their budget still require raising the debt ceiling by $4 trillion?

Anyone, anyone, Bueller?

modrepub

(3,792 posts)
23. I'll Add This
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 11:31 AM
Monday

Google US tax revenue. It came back at $4.9T in 2024ish. Total value of imported goods in 2023 was like $3.3T.

So if the IRS will under collect by $500B and tariffs rates are on the order of 25%, how will this pay for everything?

Deminpenn

(16,678 posts)
16. Alexander Hamilton initially wanted tariffs to fund the centralized government
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 10:11 AM
Monday

he envisioned and got them. The trouble came when imports drastically declined along with the tariff revenue attached to them and so did the money to pay for government operations.

Bev54

(12,313 posts)
20. Whereas in Canada our PM (if elected)
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 10:58 AM
Monday

Has promised, $ earned from reciprocal tariffs will be used to help people and companies affected by the trade war.

Autumn

(47,624 posts)
21. I've been buying things that I think might need to be replaced since he started his
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 11:04 AM
Monday

tariff bullshit. I'm thinking I'll be fine.

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