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SARose

(1,822 posts)
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 09:10 AM Apr 2025

How do the tariffs benefit Trump?

I’ve been thinking about this since last night. Trump never does anything that doesn’t benefit him.

Bitcoin

Weak dollar

Coffee commodities 😂

What do you think?

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How do the tariffs benefit Trump? (Original Post) SARose Apr 2025 OP
It's justification for the tax cuts. Klarkashton Apr 2025 #1
Exactly sop Apr 2025 #6
I think you are on to part of it. SARose Apr 2025 #12
Putin BigmanPigman Apr 2025 #2
Putin loves the destruction of the US. Irish_Dem Apr 2025 #3
I wondered about someone shorting SARose Apr 2025 #13
A Very Appropriate Lens The Roux Comes First Apr 2025 #4
All Trump has ever known is bankruptcy. He Emile Apr 2025 #5
Right SARose Apr 2025 #14
What he has is probably related to a ton load of money he "borrowed" Justice matters. Apr 2025 #37
He and his orcs have shorted the market. FalloutShelter Apr 2025 #7
And if the market goes way up SARose Apr 2025 #15
He thinks they benefit him, but how many times do we have to be reminded... brush Apr 2025 #8
Your thoughts are all true SARose Apr 2025 #16
Yes, there is the lying, the anti-Dei and white supremacy... brush Apr 2025 #23
Peter Pan SARose Apr 2025 #24
Thanks. Of course, Peter Pan the boy who refused to grow up. brush Apr 2025 #27
Trump is short-sighted, stupid, and frequently irrational and prone to magical thinking. Ocelot II Apr 2025 #9
Magical thinking SARose Apr 2025 #18
Agreed ProfessorGAC Apr 2025 #30
His cult loves authoritarianism Johonny Apr 2025 #10
My husband said this morning SARose Apr 2025 #19
Probably true Johonny Apr 2025 #22
Protection racket like the mob Sanity Claws Apr 2025 #11
Kiss the ring SARose Apr 2025 #20
..also, he knows when he will.. thomski64 Apr 2025 #29
Ego another large factor Mordred Apr 2025 #17
I agree SARose Apr 2025 #21
Autarky aligns with technofascism, Xtian Dominionism JCMach1 Apr 2025 #25
He thinks breaking things proves that he's powerful. The bigger the thing, the more powerful he thinks he is. Scrivener7 Apr 2025 #26
He gets Faux pas Apr 2025 #28
Mark Elias was on MSNBC this AM and said it was just all about power. People are beholden to him to get out from under Amaryllis Apr 2025 #31
The malicious empty shell person in the White House CharleyDog Apr 2025 #32
divide and conquer...break it you bought it stillcool Apr 2025 #33
The feeling of wielding sadistic power on that scale must be ... sexual, for sadists like him. Hekate Apr 2025 #34
Bitcoin Blue Full Moon Apr 2025 #35
I said early on, HE PLAYING THE MARKETS!!! Jit423 Apr 2025 #36

sop

(17,289 posts)
6. Exactly
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 09:16 AM
Apr 2025

"Trump—largely supported by Republican lawmakers who control the U.S. Senate and House of Representatives—wants to use increased tariff revenue to finance tax cuts that analysts say would disproportionately benefit the wealthy. Specifically, they want to extend tax cuts passed in Trump’s first term and largely set to expire at the end of 2025. The Tax Foundation, a nonpartisan think tank in Washington, has found that extending Trump’s tax cuts would reduce federal revenue by $4.5 trillion from 2025 to 2034. Trump wants higher tariffs to help offset the lower tax collections."

SARose

(1,822 posts)
12. I think you are on to part of it.
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 10:01 AM
Apr 2025

I think you are correct. The tax cuts are for the next 10 years, right?

Are the tariffs in place for the next 10 years?

So basically, he doesn’t give a rats a$$ about our economy once he leaves office. That I understand.

Irish_Dem

(79,410 posts)
3. Putin loves the destruction of the US.
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 09:13 AM
Apr 2025

Trump is also shorting the market with all the announcements.
He and his family get very rich.

SARose

(1,822 posts)
13. I wondered about someone shorting
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 10:04 AM
Apr 2025

I watched the opening bell and you could see the algorithms working about the first 5-10 minutes. One step forward and two steps backwards.

Jared - was that you?

The Roux Comes First

(2,123 posts)
4. A Very Appropriate Lens
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 09:15 AM
Apr 2025

None of this shit is lacking in self-interest. Or "anti-empathy," to coin a term.

SARose

(1,822 posts)
14. Right
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 10:07 AM
Apr 2025

Who else couldn’t make money with a casino? Probably money laundered a little too much?

I think you have part of the answer - Putin. I believe ole pootie has something much worse than the pee tape on Trump.

Justice matters.

(9,285 posts)
37. What he has is probably related to a ton load of money he "borrowed"
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 10:39 PM
Apr 2025

and didn't "report" on any tax declaration, and the promise is he can keep it if he does what he is told...

FalloutShelter

(14,140 posts)
7. He and his orcs have shorted the market.
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 09:22 AM
Apr 2025

They will clean up on the way down and then buy the bottom.

Pump and dump. If the market recovers they make money again. If not… they are already rich and now we are all serfs.

JMHO

SARose

(1,822 posts)
15. And if the market goes way up
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 10:11 AM
Apr 2025

ole Trumpy goes on TV bragging about the greatest, mostest beautifulest turnaround in history! Never before seen by anyone. Sir, I think you are a genius!


It will be hugggeeee! Plus so many countries and companies will bend the knee and kiss the ring.

🤢

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
8. He thinks they benefit him, but how many times do we have to be reminded...
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 09:22 AM
Apr 2025

he's a poor businessman who doesn't know what the fuck he's doing. He went bankrupt several time runing casinos.

See the stock market tanking. Watch the rest of the world set retaliatory tarrifs.

Watch inflation go up as prices soar.

Wacth consumers learn tariffs are a tax on them/us.

Layoffs have already started on top of Musk's firings, and a recession will follow.

He and Monk have dismantled FEMA even though recent hurricane damage in several states hasn't been repaired, and yesterday's tornado storms has created even more damage...no FEMA.


Again, he's a poor businessman, has always been, and doesn't know what the fuck he's doing.

And btw, Russia wasn't hit whi his tariffs. The fucker is a Russian asset who does things that help Russia.

SARose

(1,822 posts)
16. Your thoughts are all true
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 10:17 AM
Apr 2025

Adding to your list he responds emotionally to adversity. He doesn’t consider the consequences of his actions because

I didn’t sign that

No one told me

I never met her

I truly believe the man is one of the Pan man’s Lost Boys.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
23. Yes, there is the lying, the anti-Dei and white supremacy...
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 04:27 PM
Apr 2025

Familiarize me with the pan man's lost boys?

I know of that phrase from wars on the African continent where teen age soldiers were weaponized and loosed on opposing forces...armed teenage boys who of course know nothing of consequences and responsibility for mass murder.

SARose

(1,822 posts)
24. Peter Pan
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 05:22 PM
Apr 2025

Is the Pan Man! That phrase comes from the movie Hook with Robin Williams.

The lost boys

The Lost Boys are characters from J. M. Barrie's 1904 play Peter Pan, or The Boy Who Wouldn't Grow Up and later adaptations and extensions to the story.[1] They are boys "who fall out of their prams when the nurse is looking the other way and if they are not claimed in seven days, they are sent far away to Neverland," where Peter Pan is their captain.[2]
From Wikipedia.
 

brush

(61,033 posts)
27. Thanks. Of course, Peter Pan the boy who refused to grow up.
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 05:34 PM
Apr 2025

For some reason I thought you were referring to a more recent phenomenon.

Ocelot II

(128,846 posts)
9. Trump is short-sighted, stupid, and frequently irrational and prone to magical thinking.
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 09:23 AM
Apr 2025

Of course he and his family and his minions can benefit financially in the short term by shorting the market, but that won't hold up in the long term if there's a global recession. Trump probably really thinks tariffs are a money-maker that will offset huge tax cuts and everything will be peachy and he will be admired by everyone. And it really, really tickles his willie that he's able to inflict economic pain on other countries that have refused to knuckle under to his demands. Denmark won't sell Greenland? OK, I'll screw the entire EU with crushing tariffs. Canada doesn't want to become the 51st state? OK, big tariffs for you! Fuck all you little countries, I win!

SARose

(1,822 posts)
18. Magical thinking
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 10:20 AM
Apr 2025

I like that!

He did it to Maine recently-no newborn enrollment in SS for you! Gotta drive 50 miles to the last SS office open. Yeah, had to back down there didn’t he?

ProfessorGAC

(75,697 posts)
30. Agreed
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 06:12 PM
Apr 2025

I posted similarly in a different thread.
The belief in this magical approach is his ticket to Rushmore, in his head.
And, his simpleton advisors who wouldn't be powerful if they hadn't rolled dice & gotten lucky are insistent are imposing their 2 dimensional view of economics on the world.

Johonny

(25,297 posts)
10. His cult loves authoritarianism
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 09:24 AM
Apr 2025

And Tariffs sound tough. The idea that any grand scheme is behind this, is super optimistic. This is a madman with no long term plans just riffing on the idea somehow his cult will love it and his propaganda media will cover his ass.

SARose

(1,822 posts)
19. My husband said this morning
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 10:22 AM
Apr 2025

He doubts half or more of America doesn’t know the stock market is tanking.

They also forget about their 401ks.

Johonny

(25,297 posts)
22. Probably true
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 10:28 AM
Apr 2025

38 % of Americans own no stocks. My wife has no idea what the market is doing day to day.

Sanity Claws

(22,323 posts)
11. Protection racket like the mob
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 09:34 AM
Apr 2025

He will agree to lift the onerous tariffs if you pay him in some way to be negotiated.

thomski64

(835 posts)
29. ..also, he knows when he will..
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 06:07 PM
Apr 2025

...."pause" his bullshit tariffs, then buy back low when the markets rebound..

Mordred

(206 posts)
17. Ego another large factor
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 10:20 AM
Apr 2025

Besides the reasons mentioned above, do not underestimate the ego factor at play here.

Trump pathologically craves attention and loves to disrupt conditions to achieve it. Upsetting international trade across the globe will realize in the ultimate ego-stroke for Trump with most countries tripping over themselves to appease and assuage him. Nothing satisfies Trump more than media spotlight accompanied by brazen supplication and worship.

The aftermath of his "Liberation Day" could be the greatest time of his life.

SARose

(1,822 posts)
21. I agree
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 10:25 AM
Apr 2025

He reminds me of a two year old. He doesn’t care if the attention is good or bad as long as he is the center of attention.

So mature!

JCMach1

(29,073 posts)
25. Autarky aligns with technofascism, Xtian Dominionism
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 05:31 PM
Apr 2025

And the AlT-Right that controls this regime.

Scrivener7

(58,153 posts)
26. He thinks breaking things proves that he's powerful. The bigger the thing, the more powerful he thinks he is.
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 05:34 PM
Apr 2025

Amaryllis

(10,929 posts)
31. Mark Elias was on MSNBC this AM and said it was just all about power. People are beholden to him to get out from under
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 06:13 PM
Apr 2025

the tarrifs.

CharleyDog

(811 posts)
32. The malicious empty shell person in the White House
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 06:51 PM
Apr 2025

has such great, unimpeded enthusiasm for the tariffs, it can only mean he gets a personal reward. My theory is
he will extract money and other extortions from EACH business in the world.

Extreme power and a lot of money!

The only explanation.

(Putin taught him to do this)

Hekate

(100,131 posts)
34. The feeling of wielding sadistic power on that scale must be ... sexual, for sadists like him.
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 07:17 PM
Apr 2025

Jit423

(1,568 posts)
36. I said early on, HE PLAYING THE MARKETS!!!
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 10:30 PM
Apr 2025

And so are everyone of his administration. They know full well what the tariffs would do to the markets. And they all will be billionaires when it's over and they will be paying much less taxes on their wealth than they should be. It is just so simple and clear, why don't people understand this? It's like 1+1=2.

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