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applegrove

(129,957 posts)
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 01:42 PM Apr 2025

Sen Blumenthal just said "coffee and bananas". The US is

Last edited Thu Apr 3, 2025, 04:58 PM - Edit history (2)

putting tariffs on coffee and bananas. They are things that the US will never produce and all it does is raise prices on Americans who consume those products.

* been informed the US grows both coffee and bananas but only for local consumption and prices will go up as American do import both (see below).

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2025/04/03/trump-tariffs-banana-coffee-toilet-paper-prices-could-rise.html

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Sen Blumenthal just said "coffee and bananas". The US is (Original Post) applegrove Apr 2025 OP
I never thought this would be how we are all going to biophile Apr 2025 #1
Yes, back to seasonal produce central scrutinizer Apr 2025 #3
Did you watch the video on bees angryxyouth Apr 2025 #23
It's frightening. StarryNite Apr 2025 #25
Coffee is grown in Puerto Rico erodriguez Apr 2025 #28
And Hawaii awesomerwb1 Apr 2025 #32
There are many such categories. Voltaire2 Apr 2025 #2
Coffee is going to be an issue Bettie Apr 2025 #4
Like coffee wasn't already pricey. applegrove Apr 2025 #5
I drink tea in the morning. Grown overseas. Irish_Dem Apr 2025 #6
Coffee is medicine. Mme. Defarge Apr 2025 #22
coffee is grown in hawaii if u want domestic brew nt msongs Apr 2025 #7
Right you are. applegrove Apr 2025 #8
They don't grow much of it and never will obamanut2012 Apr 2025 #9
why not? CTyankee Apr 2025 #10
Usable land for agriculture Jerry2144 Apr 2025 #11
Oh, dear, I must have confused you. CTyankee Apr 2025 #13
No where near enough for domestic needs. NutmegYankee Apr 2025 #16
Thank you. That is good to know! CTyankee Apr 2025 #17
It originated from the mountains of Ethiopia. NutmegYankee Apr 2025 #20
Because they can't obamanut2012 Apr 2025 #15
Bananas, too ybbor Apr 2025 #12
Coffee produced in PR and HI equals about 1-2% of the coffee supply to the US. So like almost nothing awesomerwb1 Apr 2025 #33
well it could double to perhaps 3-4%, probably substandard coffee though. Voltaire2 Apr 2025 #34
Hawaii grows both jmowreader Apr 2025 #14
Both can be (and are) grown in the US MissLilyBart Apr 2025 #18
I'll adjust my OP. Both are not grown for export, only for domestic applegrove Apr 2025 #29
"If you're listening, Russia..." GiqueCee Apr 2025 #19
hold on et tu Apr 2025 #24
I can live without bananas but coffee, no way. LoisB Apr 2025 #21
Me? Never drunk coffee, but bananas? That's going to kill me to be without bananas!!!! :-( ReRe Apr 2025 #27
One way or the other, all we regular folks will be hurt. LoisB Apr 2025 #31
Penguins too underpants Apr 2025 #26
Retailers already have problems with spoilage and costs from bananas bucolic_frolic Apr 2025 #30
JJ SMuckers (parent company of Folgers coffee, my preferred brand) announced Torchlight Apr 2025 #35

central scrutinizer

(12,648 posts)
3. Yes, back to seasonal produce
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 02:04 PM
Apr 2025

I don’t need fresh peaches grown somewhere in the southern hemisphere in January.

awesomerwb1

(4,960 posts)
32. And Hawaii
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 05:22 PM
Apr 2025

Coffee produced in PR and HI = 1-2% of the coffee supply to the US. So like almost nothing

Voltaire2

(15,377 posts)
2. There are many such categories.
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 01:47 PM
Apr 2025

Also we really do not want to bring back low tech manufacturing that requires low wage unskilled workers. That is an utterly idiotic strategy. However, it does follow with defunding education, so sure lets do sweatshops.

Meanwhile developed countries with sane governments are investing in education, in modern sustainable infrastructure, in high tech high skill manufacturing. We are headed for the gutter.

Jerry2144

(3,167 posts)
11. Usable land for agriculture
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 03:46 PM
Apr 2025

They’re islands. Gotta make room for people, maybe plants, volcanoes

CTyankee

(67,739 posts)
13. Oh, dear, I must have confused you.
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 03:52 PM
Apr 2025

I meant of the land they use for planting now. Perhaps the answer is that there is not enough land available.

NutmegYankee

(16,454 posts)
16. No where near enough for domestic needs.
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 03:58 PM
Apr 2025

Arabica coffee is normally only grown between 2000-6000 feet in elevation, so much of the islands are unsuitable. The plant needs a niche climate, and we don’t have enough land in that niche in the USA.

NutmegYankee

(16,454 posts)
20. It originated from the mountains of Ethiopia.
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 04:08 PM
Apr 2025

We associate it with South America simply because the tropical Andes Mountains provide a lot of terrain suitable for large scale farming. Colombia for instance is a very high altitude country.

ybbor

(1,701 posts)
12. Bananas, too
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 03:52 PM
Apr 2025

Can’t eat any on the mainland after living there and eating them grown in my yard. Not even close to the same. Plus the varieties!

awesomerwb1

(4,960 posts)
33. Coffee produced in PR and HI equals about 1-2% of the coffee supply to the US. So like almost nothing
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 05:23 PM
Apr 2025

Voltaire2

(15,377 posts)
34. well it could double to perhaps 3-4%, probably substandard coffee though.
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 05:47 PM
Apr 2025

But unless there are domestic price controls, the domestic prices in a trade war tend to rise to just a small amount below the tariff price.

Now do wheat farmers, if any are left after this. They will be a target for retaliatory tariffs. Agriculture in general is highly vulnerable.

jmowreader

(52,870 posts)
14. Hawaii grows both
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 03:53 PM
Apr 2025

Given that, Hawaii can't produce enough of either to meet demand. In 2019, Hawaii grew about 4 million pounds of bananas. In 2023 the US imported over 6 billion pounds of bananas.

MissLilyBart

(140 posts)
18. Both can be (and are) grown in the US
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 04:02 PM
Apr 2025

Puerto Rico and Hawaii are both coffee producers.

Both also grow bananas, as do some southern states.

Doesn't make this lunatic trade war tariff nonsense any less crazy or more valid, but to say we will 'never produce' those things is simply incorrect (as I sip my afternoon cup of Puerto Rican coffee).

applegrove

(129,957 posts)
29. I'll adjust my OP. Both are not grown for export, only for domestic
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 04:55 PM
Apr 2025

consumption in the US.

GiqueCee

(3,313 posts)
19. "If you're listening, Russia..."
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 04:05 PM
Apr 2025

... Remember Trump saying the quiet part out loud during his 2016 campaign? He knew damned well they WERE listening, because he's been a Russian asset for 30 years. He is the REAL Manchurian Candidate.
And still is, though no one seems to have the cojones to call him out on it. The dots are big and bold and easy to connect. So, say it with me:

TRUMP IS A TRAITOR AND EVERYTHING HE SAYS AND DOES IS AT THE BEHEST, AND FOR THE BENEFIT OF, VLADIMIR PUTIN!

Once more, with feeling and four-part harmony.

ReRe

(12,164 posts)
27. Me? Never drunk coffee, but bananas? That's going to kill me to be without bananas!!!! :-(
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 04:40 PM
Apr 2025

bucolic_frolic

(53,804 posts)
30. Retailers already have problems with spoilage and costs from bananas
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 05:10 PM
Apr 2025

This will only make it worse. Bananas are a loss leader in their attempts to move them before they spoil.

Torchlight

(6,267 posts)
35. JJ SMuckers (parent company of Folgers coffee, my preferred brand) announced
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 05:58 PM
Apr 2025

yesterday it would begin/continue raising prices on coffee to offset its own higher costs; not just from tariffs, but also adverse weather conditions, and domestic supply chain disruptions.

Typical domestic coffee will increase 10% (my guess) and the imports by up to a third.

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