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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe 7 Largest Dow Jones drops in US history....ALL TRUMP
I'm no good with patterns. Can someone help me out here?
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I'm no good with patterns. Can someone help me out here?
The 7 largest Dow Jones drops in American history:
— Andrea Junker (@strandjunker.com) 2025-04-03T21:04:44.478Z
1. Trump, 3/16/20
-2,997.10
2. Trump, 3/12/20
-2,352.60
3. Trump, 3/9/20
-2,013.76
4. Trump, 6/11/20
-1,861.82
5. Trump, 4/3/25
-1,679.39
6. Trump, 3/11/20
-1,464.94
7. Trump, 03/18/20
-1,338.46
Tired of winning yet?
The 7 largest Dow Jones drops in American history:
1. Trump, 3/16/20
-2,997.10
2. Trump, 3/12/20
-2,352.60
3. Trump, 3/9/20
-2,013.76
4. Trump, 6/11/20
-1,861.82
5. Trump, 4/3/25
-1,679.39
6. Trump, 3/11/20
-1,464.94
7. Trump, 03/18/20
-1,338.46
Tired of winning yet?
Callie1979
(1,137 posts)I dont know where he stacks up there, but I'm sure 1927, 1987, 2000 & 2008 would likely be the highest percentage losses
Ocelot II
(129,018 posts)1 1987-10-19 1,738.74 −508.00 −22.61%
2 2020-03-16 20,188.52 −2,997.10 −12.93%
3 1929-10-28 260.6 −38.33 −12.82%
4 1929-10-29 230.0 −30.57 −11.73%
5 2020-03-12 21,200.62 −2,352.60 −9.99%
Today's loss was 3.98%
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_daily_changes_in_the_Dow_Jones_Industrial_Average
Callie1979
(1,137 posts)Still a very shitty day though
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)BannonsLiver
(20,259 posts)Hopefully, it's spread far and wide.
Callie1979
(1,137 posts)rpannier
(24,848 posts)They've used dishonesty and obfuscation for decades to a good deal of success
I'm for going with what works, not what gains us moral points
Callie1979
(1,137 posts)onenote
(45,990 posts)and that the top 9 were all under Repub presidents.
Callie1979
(1,137 posts)slightlv
(7,438 posts)for the magas to understand. Dollars they understand; percentages don't mean a thing. That's why our messaging always sucks. We insist on absolute truth and the only way that can usually be delivered is by language that's too hard for the average maga to understand. YMMO
Callie1979
(1,137 posts)The voters you need to reach aren't MAGAs. The MAGAs are pretty much a lost cause & will ignore ANYTHING negative about trump because they're a CULT.
But they also didnt win this election. The voters that won looked at the disaster at the border & changed their mind from 2020. THOSE are the people we need to focus on with the right messaging. And you dont even need to change that many minds; he won by a couple 100k votes over a few states I. believe.
But After this past election I'm afraid we're still not "getting it" as far as messaging goes. We've got 18. months to get it straight
BannonsLiver
(20,259 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)Ms. Toad
(38,236 posts)Lying by half-truths is still lying.
JI7
(93,190 posts)and things like this should be used by us to go after the other side.
Most people are simple minded fools.
onenote
(45,990 posts)Sort of takes the oomph out of the claim.
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)JI7
(93,190 posts)Nobody here needs to be convinced about how bad Trump is.
I'm talking about fools that get "informed" about politics through stupid memes and think the Apprentice was real.
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)SocialDemocrat61
(6,795 posts)Note that 2 of the top 3 were under Trump and 9 of the top 10 were under Republican Presidents.
Wiz Imp
(8,906 posts)saying the top 9 is a stronger statement than 9 of the top 10 when #10 is the only one which happened under a Democrat.
SocialDemocrat61
(6,795 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(174,825 posts)trump is an idiot who does not understand even simple economic concepts
malaise
(292,684 posts)Rec
Doodley
(11,620 posts)Meowmee
(9,212 posts)something about business but who went bankrupt several times and had to be bankrolled by Russia in power, again. I guess once wasn't enough.
LetMyPeopleVote
(174,825 posts)Richard D
(10,018 posts)kimbutgar
(26,792 posts)But I thought repukes were good for economy?
They always end up crashing our economy. This is a record for the orange Hitler only in 73 days!
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)1) Incompetency.
2) Impracticality, favouring ideology over practicality.
3) Emotional, to the point of it interfering with decision making. We see it in the shit about DEI and trans, the racism, the insatiable need to own the libs, the fear of furriners, and the difficulty they have dealing with the non-American world because it is non-American.
4) Rejection of science, including economics, and law when reality gets in their way.
5) An attachment to simple analysis and simple solutions over truer but more complex analysis and solutions.
6) Authoritarian tendencies. Leads to cabinets of yes-men.
6b) Nepotism and buddyism which exacerbate problem 1.
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)Give it up. The S&P 500 is capitalization weighted and much more accurately measures the market action.
Get with 2025.
Wiz Imp
(8,906 posts)RANK DATE DROP
1 10/19/1987 ( 20.47 )
2 10/28/1929 ( 12.34 )
3 3/16/2020 ( 11.98 )
4 10/29/1929 ( 10.16 )
5 11/6/1929 ( 9.92 )
6 3/12/2020 ( 9.51 )
7 10/18/1937 ( 9.27 )
8 10/15/2008 ( 9.04 )
9 12/1/2008 ( 8.93 )
10 7/20/1933 ( 8.88 )
8 of the 10 have been under Republicans (Hoover 3, Trump 2, W.Bush 2 & Reagan 1). 2 were under FDR during the 30's
Today's drop was the 2nd largest single day drop ever, but percentage wise it was only -4.84% which places it well below the top 20 percentage drops.
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)Point changes are useless for these kinds of purposes. A 1000 point change on a 40,000 point base is less meaningful than a 500 point change on a 15,000 point base.
Use percentages. Really.
If I say the price of a painting has risen by $1,000 dollars it makes a difference if the original price was 2,000. If the original price was $800,000 then 1,000 is hardly noticeable, and not meaningful, just noise.
Cut to the chase, use percentages.
Doodley
(11,620 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)onenote
(45,990 posts)and the top 9 were all under Repub presidents, what's your response?
Emile
(40,570 posts)He needs to be removed from office.
