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JohnSJ

(98,485 posts) Fri Apr 4, 2025, 07:01 AM Apr 4

'Disloyal': Trump fires 'four-star combatant command head' after advice of fringe ally

"The head of the National Security Agency was fired Thursday on the recommendation of far-right influencer Laura Loomer, according to sources.https://www.rawstory.com/laura-loomer-white-house-2671674015/

Two current and one former U.S. official told the Washington Post that Gen. Timothy Haugh, who also heads U.S. Cyber Command, was dismissed along with his civilian NSA deputy Wendy Noble, and Loomer confirmed that she had urged president Donald Trump to fire them the previous day in a White House meeting.

“NSA Director Tim Haugh and his deputy Wendy Noble have been disloyal to President Trump,” Loomer posted. “That is why they have been fired.”

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'Disloyal': Trump fires 'four-star combatant command head' after advice of fringe ally (Original Post) JohnSJ Apr 4 OP

He's out of control. Boomerproud Apr 4 #1

We all should be very nervous, especially since we have a republican majority congress that has no problem following thi JohnSJ Apr 4 #2

I think Loomer is a Putin asset. John1956PA Apr 4 #3

I think she is an unstable conspiracy loon, which makes our situation even more dangerous. JohnSJ Apr 4 #4

I doubt it Mountainguy Apr 6 #10

The NSA knows what the Trumps are up to. C_U_L8R Apr 4 #5

There's a bit of chicken and egg problem with this story. Hugin Apr 4 #6

The fact that he would even meet with her in the WH is troubling enough. JohnSJ Apr 4 #7

I agree. Hugin Apr 4 #8

Trump purges national security officials, further destabilizing his own team LetMyPeopleVote Apr 6 #9

Beltway insiders must go public and defend us all. lindysalsagal Apr 6 #11

Boomerproud

(8,731 posts)

1. He's out of control.

Reply to JohnSJ (Original post)

Fri Apr 4, 2025, 07:03 AM

Apr 4

I'm nervous just typing this.

JohnSJ

(98,485 posts)

2. We all should be very nervous, especially since we have a republican majority congress that has no problem following thi

Reply to Boomerproud (Reply #1)

Fri Apr 4, 2025, 07:12 AM

Apr 4

piece of garbage "fuhrer".

Unless that viewpoint changes quickly among the rethugs in congress because of their majority, we are headed for some very difficult times ahead. All predictable.

Thanks MSM. Yeah, Biden was too old. What a bunch of BS.

John1956PA

(3,970 posts)

3. I think Loomer is a Putin asset.

Reply to JohnSJ (Original post)

Fri Apr 4, 2025, 07:18 AM

Apr 4

For some reason, she has an inordinate amount of influence over Trump.

JohnSJ

(98,485 posts)

4. I think she is an unstable conspiracy loon, which makes our situation even more dangerous.

Reply to John1956PA (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 4, 2025, 07:22 AM

Apr 4

Mountainguy

(1,736 posts)

10. I doubt it

Reply to John1956PA (Reply #3)

Sun Apr 6, 2025, 05:41 PM

Apr 6

More likely she's fucking him

C_U_L8R

(47,170 posts)

5. The NSA knows what the Trumps are up to.

Reply to JohnSJ (Original post)

Fri Apr 4, 2025, 07:51 AM

Apr 4

And probably has plenty of evidence. It's a shame they never acted on it.

Hugin

(36,052 posts)

6. There's a bit of chicken and egg problem with this story.

Reply to JohnSJ (Original post)

Fri Apr 4, 2025, 07:57 AM

Apr 4

Loomer may have heard that the firings were to occur and put herself into it to boost her creds with the doobers.

The self-aggrandizes must self-aggrandize.

JohnSJ

(98,485 posts)

7. The fact that he would even meet with her in the WH is troubling enough.

Reply to Hugin (Reply #6)

Fri Apr 4, 2025, 08:01 AM

Apr 4

Hugin

(36,052 posts)

8. I agree.

Reply to JohnSJ (Reply #7)

Fri Apr 4, 2025, 08:17 AM

Apr 4

Where’s the proof that even happened.

I ask myself one question, how would Loomer know anything about the workings of the NSA or it’s hierarchy.

On the other hand, it could simply boil down to jealousy. She saw that these NSA people were getting time and she wasn’t. So she fingered them.

LetMyPeopleVote

(162,030 posts)

9. Trump purges national security officials, further destabilizing his own team

Reply to JohnSJ (Original post)

Sun Apr 6, 2025, 04:50 PM

Apr 6

The problem isn’t just that the president has fired national security officials without cause, it’s also why he made these drastic moves.
https://bsky.app/profile/stevebenen.com/post/3llyhs3ixw224

The good news: Trump has finally agreed to fire some members of his hapless national security team.

The bad news: He's fired the wrong people for the wrong reasons, while leaving in place the officials who actually deserve to be ousted

Link to tweet

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trump-purges-national-security-officials-destabilizing-team-rcna199673

The purge appears to be intensifying. NBC News reported:

The director and the No. 2 official at the National Security Agency were ousted from their positions Thursday, according to a defense official and three sources with knowledge of the matter. ... [Air Force Gen. Timothy Haugh] was both the head of U.S. Cyber Command and the director of the National Security Agency, a role he had served in since February 2024. Wendy Noble, the NSA’s Deputy Director, was the agency’s senior civilian leader.

.....And what, pray tell, precipitated these moves? As it turns out, NBC News, among several other news organizations, reported that the president started ousting members of his national security team after he met with far-right activist Laura Loomer, who “expressed dissatisfaction with some officials on his national security team.”

Indeed, after Trump fired the top two officials at the National Security Agency, Loomer took credit for their dismissals.

For those who might need a refresher, Loomer is a right-wing activist, a radical conspiracy theorist and a failed Republican congressional candidate who has described herself as “pro-white nationalism.” She was also a close confidant to Trump during the 2024 campaign — even joining the Republican for a Sept. 11 remembrance, despite the fact she’s pushed false conspiracy theories about the terrorist attacks having been “an inside job.”.....

Indeed, the president hasn’t even made much of an effort to deny Loomer’s influence, boasting to reporters late Thursday that the conspiracy theorist is “a very good patriot” who makes “recommendations” he takes seriously.

The point is not that the administration’s national security team is sacrosanct. On the contrary, in the wake of Signal chat scandal, it is easy to make the case that Trump had a responsibility to fire key members of his team, including Waltz and Hegseth. The president, to date, has refused.

But that just makes Trump’s judgment look even worse: He’s finally agreed to fire some members of his hapless national security team, but he’s fired the wrong people for the wrong reasons, while leaving in place the people who actually deserve to be ousted.

lindysalsagal

(22,682 posts)

11. Beltway insiders must go public and defend us all.

Reply to JohnSJ (Original post)

Sun Apr 6, 2025, 06:02 PM

Apr 6

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