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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTo hell with voodoo economics
Tarrified economics.
This is insanely dangerous IMO what the orange colostomy bag is doing.
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To hell with voodoo economics (Original Post)
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usonian
(16,928 posts)1. People say that a chatbot came up with the numbers.
Probably on February 30th.
Watchfoxheadexplodes
(3,529 posts)2. Holy crap
I actually would not doubt it.
usonian
(16,928 posts)3. Trump's new tariff math looks a lot like ChatGPT's
https://www.theverge.com/news/642620/trump-tariffs-formula-ai-chatgpt-gemini-claude-grok
I'll OP this.
If AI wanted to destroy the world, it is apparently off to a fast start, with a moron at the console.
When Donald Trump began yesterday’s announcement of the White House’s latest trade policy brandishing a novelty-sized cardboard sign labeled “Reciprocal Tariffs,” the immediate and nearly unanimous response was bafflement. Trump slapped a 10 percent baseline tariff on all imports into the US, including from uninhabited islands, plus absurdly high rates on specific countries, supposedly based on “tariffs charged to the USA” — which didn’t match up to other, non-cardboard-sign-based estimates. Stock markets have plummeted and consumers are facing down sharp price hikes on potentially almost everything they buy.
Where did these numbers come from? Apparently, an oversimplified calculation that several major AI chatbots happen to recommend.
Economist James Surowiecki quickly reverse-engineered a possible explanation for the tariff pricing. He found you could recreate each of the White House’s numbers by simply taking a given country’s trade deficit with the US and dividing it by their total exports to the US. Halve that number, and you get a ready-to-use “discounted reciprocal tariff.” The White House objected to this claim and published the formula it says that it used, but as Politico points out, the formula looks like a dressed-up version of Surowiecki’s method.
In case you weren’t sure, Surowiecki calls this approach “extraordinary nonsense.” So why did Trump’s team use it? Well, like plenty of people who’ve realized their homework is due in three hours’ time, it seems like they may have been tempted by AI.
Where did these numbers come from? Apparently, an oversimplified calculation that several major AI chatbots happen to recommend.
Economist James Surowiecki quickly reverse-engineered a possible explanation for the tariff pricing. He found you could recreate each of the White House’s numbers by simply taking a given country’s trade deficit with the US and dividing it by their total exports to the US. Halve that number, and you get a ready-to-use “discounted reciprocal tariff.” The White House objected to this claim and published the formula it says that it used, but as Politico points out, the formula looks like a dressed-up version of Surowiecki’s method.
In case you weren’t sure, Surowiecki calls this approach “extraordinary nonsense.” So why did Trump’s team use it? Well, like plenty of people who’ve realized their homework is due in three hours’ time, it seems like they may have been tempted by AI.
I'll OP this.
If AI wanted to destroy the world, it is apparently off to a fast start, with a moron at the console.