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DemocratSinceBirth

(101,612 posts)
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 02:33 PM Apr 2025

****BREAKING NEWS**** China Halts Critical Exports as Trade War Intensifies

China has suspended exports of a wide range of critical minerals and magnets, threatening to choke off supplies of components central to automakers, aerospace manufacturers, semiconductor companies and military contractors around the world.

Shipments of the magnets, essential for assembling everything from cars and drones to robots and missiles, have been halted at many Chinese ports while the Chinese government drafts a new regulatory system. Once in place, the new system could permanently prevent supplies from reaching certain companies, including American military contractors.

The official crackdown is part of China’s retaliation for President Trump’s sharp increase in tariffs that started on April 2.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/13/business/china-rare-earths-exports.html






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****BREAKING NEWS**** China Halts Critical Exports as Trade War Intensifies (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2025 OP
Dang, more winning for us. Biophilic Apr 2025 #1
Turns out Trump was right - I AM getting tired of all the winning. dchill Apr 2025 #11
Same here PatSeg Apr 2025 #82
He just keeps on winning. Swede Apr 2025 #30
Lol, that's very well made. 😄 Dave Bowman Apr 2025 #85
The Art of Getting FU*KED in the Deal. Sure, Djt... next China will cut Walmart and Dollar Store products completely. usaf-vet Apr 2025 #42
If China messes with Wally world and Dollar stores, those U.S. oligarchs are going to mess with the Donald. BComplex Apr 2025 #46
Anything that hurts Trump and maga I'm fine with even if China does it. OrlandoDem2 Apr 2025 #2
Agreed - someone needs to stand up to the bully. walkingman Apr 2025 #3
I'm profoundly sad. TSF is killing us. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2025 #5
I thought that same thing birdographer Apr 2025 #16
He's wrong on purpose, and just taking orders from his fascist bosses Attilatheblond Apr 2025 #28
Yes, I agree with you... slightlv Apr 2025 #40
I wouldn't want another pandemic coming from China MichMan Apr 2025 #27
How the hell is that relevant? paleotn Apr 2025 #34
"Anything that hurts Trump and maga I'm fine with even if China does it" MichMan Apr 2025 #36
He caused the deaths of American people stillcool Apr 2025 #51
That is so clever!! dpibel Apr 2025 #74
His mishandling of COVID and a lot of other stuff paleotn Apr 2025 #91
Which is why I wouldn't want another one that originated from China MichMan Apr 2025 #93
Absolutely EnergizedLib Apr 2025 #49
I'm with you! Whatever it takes kkmarie Apr 2025 #81
Unfortunately the US has to experience pain to wake up to the fact that the orange Hitler is an idiot and doesn't give kimbutgar Apr 2025 #4
The best thing that can happen to us now is a quick, deep economic collapse that makes magats Scrivener7 Apr 2025 #26
Unemployment rate of 20% would be good MichMan Apr 2025 #31
I read your sarcasm. But at this point there are only two ways this can go. He goes quickly or he goes Scrivener7 Apr 2025 #32
I tend to agree with your reasoning, slightlv Apr 2025 #41
I hope that doesn't come to pass. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2025 #67
ON A ROLL! dpibel Apr 2025 #75
Magas are not the ones who will be upset by this. vsrazdem Apr 2025 #54
Those are magas too. Scrivener7 Apr 2025 #58
Some likely takedown scenarios. Magats have no power. Legislators are scared of the few militia in their ranks. usonian Apr 2025 #66
Orange Adolf has it covered - there will be plenty of pain thought crime Apr 2025 #79
G.O.P. is taking a massive dump on America BoRaGard Apr 2025 #6
While that suck for us, glad trump's getting slapped back hard ToxMarz Apr 2025 #7
Gee, who would have predicted this? twodogsbarking Apr 2025 #8
And anyone with a brain, please remember to vote next time. thought crime Apr 2025 #18
Raygun told us 50 years ago how this movie ends. live love laugh Apr 2025 #20
Trump thinks magnets are overrated since they don't work underwater surfered Apr 2025 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author surfered Apr 2025 #10
Dear Orange Julius: You fuck around with morons and you win. You fuck around with brutal dictators and you FIND OUT. usonian Apr 2025 #12
Ha! Orange Julius. How fitting. live love laugh Apr 2025 #22
Had it not been for daddy's money.... paleotn Apr 2025 #35
He's doing a good job of pissing folks off. Joinfortmill Apr 2025 #13
Yep, and everyone of the MAGA'S will blame China bluestarone Apr 2025 #14
That actually may be hard to do when slightlv Apr 2025 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author surfered Apr 2025 #15
China dominates manufacturing and rare earth elements. USA pushes the best paper around. Bluetus Apr 2025 #17
I wonder if this is what he wanted when he picked this fight with China? InstantGratification Apr 2025 #19
LOL He didn't think of that, but one of his masters may have Attilatheblond Apr 2025 #29
As I was schooled not too long ago, slightlv Apr 2025 #45
wow.. it's getting (more) serious Demovictory9 Apr 2025 #21
Well, FAFO blue-wave Apr 2025 #23
China knows how to play the game. Sneederbunk Apr 2025 #24
I have no plans to buy a NEW CAR ever again FakeNoose Apr 2025 #25
I haven't bought a new car since 1998. paleotn Apr 2025 #37
In 6 months the car dealers will be begging CanonRay Apr 2025 #53
How? MichMan Apr 2025 #59
Fair point CanonRay Apr 2025 #61
The hits just keep on coming. As some economists say, imposing a tariff is like declaring war. SunSeeker Apr 2025 #33
What we need are maga-nets. C Moon Apr 2025 #38
Does this mean they won't ship my T-shirt? It is critical to me! 😁 Wonder Why Apr 2025 #39
Well that one is gonna hurt the stocks tomorrow. JFC but predictable. Nt lostnfound Apr 2025 #43
Who would benefit from weakening the US military capabilities? Tbear Apr 2025 #47
Somehow, this is Obama's fault. n/t flvegan Apr 2025 #48
Relying on adversaries for supply of critical minerals clearly was not a good decision MichMan Apr 2025 #50
China imports food from here? Why? stillcool Apr 2025 #52
Yes MichMan Apr 2025 #55
and you think that's alot? stillcool Apr 2025 #57
Oh, excellent! dpibel Apr 2025 #76
I have to say, though, I AM concerned for the well being of China. Just as I'm concerned for our well being. Scrivener7 Apr 2025 #86
Of course. But you're sincere... dpibel Apr 2025 #87
I get you. Scrivener7 Apr 2025 #88
Simple correction BidenRocks Apr 2025 #78
Maybe we shouldn't have started this bullshit in the first place. Scrivener7 Apr 2025 #72
China just might be able to bring this country to its knees. louis-t Apr 2025 #56
Great, more disasters on the way 😖 Meowmee Apr 2025 #60
What if D_Master81 Apr 2025 #62
Not really madville Apr 2025 #73
The USA will have to kiss CHINA's ass Martin Eden Apr 2025 #63
That would be tragic for us. We didn't start the fire. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2025 #64
REPUBLICANS OWN THIS vapor2 Apr 2025 #65
But who will make them own it? Maru Kitteh Apr 2025 #70
The opening tomorrow will be halted, no doubt??? Jit423 Apr 2025 #68
No. Futures are up. Scrivener7 Apr 2025 #71
Depression anyone? roamer65 Apr 2025 #69
Hey Chump, FAFO Hassler Apr 2025 #77
The man is a complete idiot. LS_Editor Apr 2025 #80
Anybody who didn't see this coming is not paying attention. Martin68 Apr 2025 #83
What could possibly go wrong? BadGimp Apr 2025 #84
This is going to hurt every one of us. Okay...not planning on buying a new car...cars still need repair. PortTack Apr 2025 #89
No one could have predicted that ... eppur_se_muova Apr 2025 #90
I doubt Beijing will fold like trump does Torchlight Apr 2025 #92

usaf-vet

(7,742 posts)
42. The Art of Getting FU*KED in the Deal. Sure, Djt... next China will cut Walmart and Dollar Store products completely.
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 05:19 PM
Apr 2025

The MAGA Cultists will have to spend more for the same in their two favorite shopping destinations. Or....what?

BComplex

(9,733 posts)
46. If China messes with Wally world and Dollar stores, those U.S. oligarchs are going to mess with the Donald.
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 05:34 PM
Apr 2025

THAT is when we will see donald exiting stage left. The republicans are owned by the oligarchs, and they will finally stop their loyalty to donald/maga.

birdographer

(2,937 posts)
16. I thought that same thing
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 03:54 PM
Apr 2025

I wonder if anything at all will get republicans to finally stop toadying to him. He is wrong, he knows he is wrong but is too narcissistic to admit it, and those republicans know he is wrong. MAGAts? Not so much. He is their cult leader and can do no wrong.

Attilatheblond

(8,142 posts)
28. He's wrong on purpose, and just taking orders from his fascist bosses
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 04:36 PM
Apr 2025

He hates us all. We turned him out in 2020 & he will NEVER forgive that. He told us he would get retribution, but nothing is enough to fill his need. He is only happy when he is hurting others, but his glee is short lived and he has to keep hurting people to get his high. He's a misery junky and that's why the fascist business leaders bought the office for him; he will do anything to anybody without remorse or even a second's hesitation. If he changes his mind, it's because he thought up a new way to hurt people.

He is criminally insane and a danger to the entire world.

Sadly, it's likely most of his cabinet are grifting too, so going the 25th route seems unlikely to me. They don't care about nation or people, so long as they get lots of money to cushion themselves from the misery. They all gave up on the US or none of them would have taken positions of authority and ass kissing they knew they were not capable of doing. They, like the insane criminal, are just there to follow orders and steal what they can personally.

Impeachment? Well, maybe GOP on the Hill might try it, but it's likely there would be blood shed because MAGA Nazis just want to destroy everything.

We are paying a steep price for our society's failure to really deal with mental health and real education.

slightlv

(7,396 posts)
40. Yes, I agree with you...
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 05:13 PM
Apr 2025

He should be judged as criminally insane. Mere Malignant Narcissism isn't enough to describe his actions. It is criminally insane to make the entire world hate your country just so you can get your rocks off on the pain it's causing everybody. It's also criminally insane to sell out the top secrets of your own country to the highest bidder, just to put more money into your pocket, and more retribution towards the people who didn't want you as their president... first, or ever again. If it's not criminally insane, it ought to be!

MichMan

(16,532 posts)
36. "Anything that hurts Trump and maga I'm fine with even if China does it"
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 05:05 PM
Apr 2025

Another pandemic would qualify as "anything"

Covid caused him to lose the 2020 election.

stillcool

(34,407 posts)
51. He caused the deaths of American people
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 06:07 PM
Apr 2025

gleefully, which he easily could have avoided. China had nothing to do with the way Donald treats the American people during a pandemic

paleotn

(21,390 posts)
91. His mishandling of COVID and a lot of other stuff
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 01:23 PM
Apr 2025

Pandemics are acts of God, Gia or whatever. No one really has control over that. How we manage the curveballs mom nature throws at us is in our control. China did what they could but it wasn’t enough. Our handling of that escape was awful.

MichMan

(16,532 posts)
93. Which is why I wouldn't want another one that originated from China
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 01:35 PM
Apr 2025

Even accidently from bats.

EnergizedLib

(2,914 posts)
49. Absolutely
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 05:46 PM
Apr 2025

We can recover from a recession sooner than we can recover from Krasnov and his cult’s nonsense.

kkmarie

(336 posts)
81. I'm with you! Whatever it takes
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 07:42 AM
Apr 2025

Even if it's China. These fools won't wake up until it hurts them personally and I mean really hurt them. Krasnov will continue to say this is all about maga. The Russian regime in DC has pretty much told us to just shut up and take it.
They are bound to figure it out, that he's not helping them or our country. Okay not all of them. Maybe some will.

kimbutgar

(26,679 posts)
4. Unfortunately the US has to experience pain to wake up to the fact that the orange Hitler is an idiot and doesn't give
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 03:13 PM
Apr 2025

A shit about them. And the only person he cares about is himself.

Scrivener7

(58,138 posts)
26. The best thing that can happen to us now is a quick, deep economic collapse that makes magats
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 04:29 PM
Apr 2025

turn away from him, and one that we can claw ourselves back from.

The worst thing would be a gradual, start and stop decline. We'd be the frogs in the boiling water, and it would be beyond repair by the time we could do anything about it.

Godspeed, China.

MichMan

(16,532 posts)
31. Unemployment rate of 20% would be good
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 04:43 PM
Apr 2025

Having a lot of people in poverty and homeless would get us there.

Scrivener7

(58,138 posts)
32. I read your sarcasm. But at this point there are only two ways this can go. He goes quickly or he goes
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 04:47 PM
Apr 2025

after a much longer time in office.

The steeper the decline now, the sooner he goes, and the less damage he does. The quicker we can pull ourselves back from it, the less poverty and homelessness we need to fix.

The longer he's in office, all bets are off.

slightlv

(7,396 posts)
41. I tend to agree with your reasoning,
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 05:18 PM
Apr 2025

though gods, I hate even the thought of the pain it will serve up to the rest of us who don't deserve it. But... magas won't know any of it... at least, the specifics which you mention in your reply... if trump changes the reporting standards to what I've been reading over the past few days. Leave out the government stats, and you only get a portion of the picture... not nearly enough when the hard damage is being done to government employees by trumps government. Fox isn't going to tell the magats that trump changed the reporting requirements, and I don't believe they'd understand or even care. As long as it doesn't hit them directly, they're good to keep going for trump. Thing is, the longer it does keep going, the more of them feel the pain - both the rich and poor magas.

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,612 posts)
67. I hope that doesn't come to pass.
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 07:46 PM
Apr 2025

Trump said nations are, "kissing his a-- " to get the tariffs removed and that Xi, "panicked". How did he expect Xi to respond?

dpibel

(3,754 posts)
75. ON A ROLL!
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 10:30 PM
Apr 2025

This is an inspirational thread for you!

Fight forwardly for your cause!!

vsrazdem

(2,194 posts)
54. Magas are not the ones who will be upset by this.
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 06:36 PM
Apr 2025

The corporations like Honeywell, Boeing and anyone that needs magnets or semiconductors are not going to be able to continue production. This is going to hurt their bottom line. That is when you will see results - when it hits THEIR pocketbook.

ToxMarz

(2,727 posts)
7. While that suck for us, glad trump's getting slapped back hard
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 03:24 PM
Apr 2025

It's the only way to deal with him. Give him an inch, he'll ramp up 1000x. Glad I don't need any magnets right now.

Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

usonian

(23,289 posts)
12. Dear Orange Julius: You fuck around with morons and you win. You fuck around with brutal dictators and you FIND OUT.
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 03:48 PM
Apr 2025

You might have to work for a living!!!

paleotn

(21,390 posts)
35. Had it not been for daddy's money....
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 05:01 PM
Apr 2025

he'd be selling high mileage used cars at a tote the note lot.

slightlv

(7,396 posts)
44. That actually may be hard to do when
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 05:28 PM
Apr 2025

more countries start following China's example. trump... nor anyone inside or outside his admin... can hope to have everything America needs manufactured in America in any timeframe. Some things are just not possible. And the more he screws around with Ukraine, I think more the NATO countries are going to be inclined to break away from trump and America. If you can't count on a friend being a friend in a war, then they're an enemy by default. Each of these countries no doubt exports something the US needs and can't make on it's own due to resources or materials... not to count labor costs. And trump will never increase the minimum wage. He spent a hell of a long time last campaign talking about cap on "maximum wage" and no minimum wage. I remember because it incensed me so much that America's workers were being dissed like that, and no one was making a hoopla about it. But then, every other word out of his mouth is a scandal, so I guess what can you say? Once we start having fewer and fewer countries unwilling to trade with us, cutting off whole categories of goods and/or services, and creating alternate trading sources and routes for themselves, it will take us forever to re-establish those trading partners. And why would they be in any kind of a hurry? American voters have shown them they'll take the worst four years any president ever served, and still elect him AGAIN, over a sedate, secure, statesman like Biden. The best thing that could happen in this country is another 40 years in the desert for the republicans. I think only then could other countries step out and tentatively trust in America again. That's probably putting more of a human face on trading with countries than necessary, but that's how I look at it.

Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Bluetus

(2,188 posts)
17. China dominates manufacturing and rare earth elements. USA pushes the best paper around.
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 03:55 PM
Apr 2025

Gee, I wonder who has the upper hand in this game.

Trump should demand that China behave -- or else we'll let our army of vulture capitalists and hedge fund market manipulators loose on them.

19. I wonder if this is what he wanted when he picked this fight with China?
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 04:11 PM
Apr 2025

So he can justify making a play for Greenland's (or someone else's) resources.

slightlv

(7,396 posts)
45. As I was schooled not too long ago,
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 05:30 PM
Apr 2025

many countries have now been found to have the rare earth minerals, and other necessary resources. If this was trump's thinking, I believe it will put the whole world on a pre-war footing with America. NO country will peacefully allow another country to invade and strip them of their resources. Only trump right now is stripping this country of the resources it needs - government workers and immigrants. Wait until other countries decide to sanction us.

blue-wave

(4,816 posts)
23. Well, FAFO
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 04:14 PM
Apr 2025

Go figure. More destruction of a system, while not perfect, was moving along OK. This is absolute madness.

FakeNoose

(39,998 posts)
25. I have no plans to buy a NEW CAR ever again
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 04:25 PM
Apr 2025

I may eventually buy a 2nd hand USED CAR, but not while Chump is in the White House.

paleotn

(21,390 posts)
37. I haven't bought a new car since 1998.
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 05:06 PM
Apr 2025

And that was under duress. Better half fell in love with a particular Subaru model and wanted new. I came along kicking and screaming.

SunSeeker

(57,441 posts)
33. The hits just keep on coming. As some economists say, imposing a tariff is like declaring war.
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 04:51 PM
Apr 2025

And Trump has essentially declared war on China, so all bets are off.

Trump did it without even thinking through the repercussions, and he made zero contingency plans. Fucking idiot.

Tbear

(660 posts)
47. Who would benefit from weakening the US military capabilities?
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 05:39 PM
Apr 2025

“the new system could permanently prevent supplies from reaching certain companies, including American military contractors.”

MichMan

(16,532 posts)
50. Relying on adversaries for supply of critical minerals clearly was not a good decision
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 06:00 PM
Apr 2025

China imports a lot of food from the US, do they not?

Maybe we should cut off all shipments

stillcool

(34,407 posts)
52. China imports food from here? Why?
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 06:13 PM
Apr 2025
China buys a wide variety of products from the United States. The top items are:

Aerospace products and parts: $6.8 billion
Basic chemicals: $6.5 billion
Coal and petroleum gases: $1.1 billion
Communications and service industry machinery: $1.3 billion
Computer equipment: $1.8 billion
Electrical equipment: $1.3 billion
Electrical equipment and components: $1.7 billion
Engines and turbines: $1.4 billion
Fruits and tree nuts: $1.1 billion
General purpose machinery: $2.6 billion
Industrial machinery: $5 billion
Marine products: $1 billion
Meat products: $4.5 billion
Medical equipment and supplies: $3.6 billion
Miscellaneous crops: $2.4 billion
Miscellaneous fabricated metal products: $1.6 billion
Miscellaneous manufactured commodities: $2.1 billion
Motor vehicle parts: $1.7 billion
Motor vehicles: $6.1 billion
Navigational and measurement instruments: $6.8 billion
Non-ferrous metal products: $1.8 billion
Oil and gas: $17.6 billion
Oilseeds and grains: $18.5 billion
Other: $15.9 billion
Pharmaceutical products and medicines: $11.3 billion
Plastic products: $1.4 billion
Pulp and paperboard mill products: $2.1 billion
Resins and synthetic fibres: $5.5 billion
Scrap products: $2.4 billion
Semiconductors and components: $6.8 billion
Soaps, cleaning agents and toiletries: $1.3 billion
https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/what-does-china-import-from-us-that-could-take-a-hit-in-tariff-war/ar-AA1CD8Sv?ocid=BingNewsSerp

MichMan

(16,532 posts)
55. Yes
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 06:39 PM
Apr 2025

Fruits and tree nuts: $1.1 billion

Meat products: $4.5 billion

Miscellaneous crops: $2.4 billion

Oilseeds and grains: $18.5 billion

stillcool

(34,407 posts)
57. and you think that's alot?
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 06:46 PM
Apr 2025

China will not be buying anything from this country, and this country manufactures and sells so little. I don't know how that hurts anyone but the United States.

dpibel

(3,754 posts)
76. Oh, excellent!
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 10:35 PM
Apr 2025

And what percentage of the country's total consumption do those bigly numbers represent?

Are we talking starvation or inconvenience?

In any case, your concern for the well-being of China is truly heartwarming.

Scrivener7

(58,138 posts)
86. I have to say, though, I AM concerned for the well being of China. Just as I'm concerned for our well being.
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 11:13 AM
Apr 2025

We are all people. There is no reason for ANY of us to suffer except for the whims of an idiot.

I don't see them as the enemy. We started this.

BidenRocks

(2,696 posts)
78. Simple correction
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 01:46 AM
Apr 2025

China buys a wide variety of products from the United States. The top items are:

Used to buy! and were

madville

(7,834 posts)
73. Not really
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 10:05 PM
Apr 2025

They own about 2% of our debt and they’d have to sell it for a loss to dump it.

Maru Kitteh

(31,187 posts)
70. But who will make them own it?
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 09:08 PM
Apr 2025

I have a real fear we will hear yet again how we need to “unite our country,” reach across the aisle, and other versions of we agree to ZERO accountability for the treasonous lick-spittle that participated in this.

LS_Editor

(920 posts)
80. The man is a complete idiot.
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 05:09 AM
Apr 2025

And he's going to bankruptcy us all.

How do you bankrupt casinos? Be Donald Trump.

PortTack

(35,810 posts)
89. This is going to hurt every one of us. Okay...not planning on buying a new car...cars still need repair.
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 01:01 PM
Apr 2025

And this is just the tip of the iceberg!

eppur_se_muova

(40,864 posts)
90. No one could have predicted that ...
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 01:22 PM
Apr 2025

except, of course, anyone capable of rational thought, and reasonably well informed.

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