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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo, if Salvador's president "of course" isn't going to return the wrongly deported man......
Can a brigade of National Guard or State Police, completely in violation of all courts, detain their President Ukulele as long as they see fit?
What an asshole--he said he's not going to smuggle Kilmar back into the USA. No one asked him to. A coach class airplane ticket, with Kilmar's name on the plane's manifest, would do just fine.
Institutionalized cruelty--the trade mark of Trump and everyone that likes working with him.

Scrivener7
(55,506 posts)rich7862
(459 posts)markodochartaigh
(2,707 posts)Republicans chose an authoritarian Strong Leader who was not committed to democracy as the head of their party, the writing was on the wall.
Scrivener7
(55,506 posts)Escurumbele
(3,769 posts)The take of all this is the fact that trump sent an special envoy to Venezuela to "negotiate" with Maduro, well not "negotiate", according to them "they were not there to negotiate but to let the dictator know what he had to do", and some of it was to release all the USA citizens the dictator apprehended, and I believe that number was 12 at the time, the other "order" was for Maduro to take ALL of the "Tren de Aragua" criminals.
1. Maduro left the "Special Envoy" waiting inside their plane for hours.
2. Maduro did not return ALL the USA people he was "ordered" to let go. He only released six.
3. Maduro DID NOT take ALL the "Tren de Aragua" criminals, and the few he did were welcomed by Maduro's righ-hand-man, Diosdado Cabello, as heroes, which leads me to believe these criminals were sent on purpose to hurt Biden/Kamala campaign, and I would not doubt trump had something to do with it This fantasy that trump is going to bring down Maduro is just that, a fantasy, trump admires Maduro.
4. Little Marco had to go running to El Salvador to negotiate with Bukele, so now the USA is paying Bukele to hold those criminals in his jails, the Tax Payers are paying for it.
Maduro cleaned his butt with trump/Rubio, and why? Because Maduro is protected by Putin.
Dennis Donovan
(30,520 posts)dchill
(42,139 posts)soldierant
(8,422 posts)autorank
(29,481 posts)If any of the people he's housing are harmed in any way, the Prez may get a chance to enjoy a federal super-MAX.
RoeVWade
(468 posts)Asshole.
magicarpet
(18,088 posts).... out of Romania to visit MAGA Lardo and play a few rounds of golf.
But getting Garcia out of El Salvador is a no deal - Art of the Deal this Fascist clown can't pull off ? What bullshit,.. who do they think they are fooling ?
Attilatheblond
(5,705 posts)And that might be due to illegally deported man is already messed up or un-alived. Also, that way, Trump can blame foreign leader for Trump not obeying court order to return the man stateside.
riversedge
(75,229 posts)Bukele is and dangerous as Trump.
BREAKING: In a shocking moment, President Bukele says he won't return Abrego Garcia, who was accidentally sent to El Salvador. "How can I smuggle a terrorist into the United States? Of course I'm not going to do it."
Link to tweet
sop
(13,846 posts)Abrego Garcia will never leave El Salvador as long as Trump has anything to say about it. Dictator Don needs something to distract corporate media from his tariffs fiasco, Bukele's torture gulag should keep the media occupied with "due process" stories for a while.
LiberalArkie
(18,002 posts)authoritarian has never done or will ever do.
dchill
(42,139 posts)highplainsdem
(55,565 posts)William Seger
(11,553 posts)... just like a lot of people need to be talking seriously about impeachment, even if it seems futile. Not doing anything is a guaranteed loser.
markie
(23,326 posts)never will get there if we don't try
SheltieLover
(66,959 posts)

TommyT139
(1,287 posts)Most recently because we would have had to stop helping Israel with genocide.
benfranklin1776
(6,816 posts)And suspending any and all monetary transfers of any kind to ElSalvador until this man is rightfully returned. Make the Rethuglicans go on record supporting their orange masters terrorist thuggery if they dare.
While that is going on the Judge overseeing his case needs to find Agent Orange in contempt and fine his sorry ass personally a million dollars a day until this man is returned. 🤬🤬
SheltieLover
(66,959 posts)
benfranklin1776
(6,816 posts)We are ALL Kilmar Abrego Garcia now.
🇺🇸
SheltieLover
(66,959 posts)That poor man & his family!!! And our poor country!
HereForTheParty
(854 posts)to prop up the story that Garcia is out of our reach.
DFW
(57,825 posts)Bondi is both a liar and a sadist. The depth of evil.
nature-lover
(1,836 posts)Dan
(4,622 posts)usaf-vet
(7,470 posts)Pinback
(13,171 posts)
grouping it with some of the least dangerous countries for Americans to visit.
- NY Times today
Oh yeah, great place for a destination wedding!
This should not be a decision for the Salvadoran dictator. But since were now fighting our own dictator, thats where we are. Horrifying.
LymphocyteLover
(7,867 posts)Mtnmama
(16 posts)And any person serving him cannot be Christian. Most hypocritical president and republican party ever. I just pray they all get the same cruelty they so easily inflict on others.
LymphocyteLover
(7,867 posts)Grumpy Old Woman
(27 posts)If you aren't upset by this, you aren't paying attention.
LymphocyteLover
(7,867 posts)thanks for the link
Xipe Totec
(44,319 posts)It's just a farce. He's doing whatever Trump tells him to do.
sop
(13,846 posts)"In March, 2022...the Legislative Assembly, at Bukeles order, responded by decreeing a State of Exception giving extraordinary powers to the Police and suspending procedural guarantees and constitutional rights such as freedom of association and the right to private communications. These measures, which the law prescribes to last for a month, have been extended 24 times and are still in place. In two years, at least 78,175 people have been detained and incarcerated, at times for the mere reason of appearing nervous to a police officer. Today, 2.46 percent of the Salvadoran adult population is in prison."
El Salvador has the highest incarceration rate in the world.
https://elfaro.net/en/202404/el_salvador/27302/bukele-must-be-investigated-for-torture-under-the-state-of-exception
TheSocialDem
(269 posts)damifino10
(86 posts)The next load of prisoners shipped there, simply put the gentleman on board for the return trip to Ununitrd States
of America.
Next fucking case!!!
AntiFascist
(13,243 posts)it would really bring this Constitutional Crisis to a head.
turbinetree
(26,034 posts)

DFW
(57,825 posts)My part? I'm confused.
turbinetree
(26,034 posts)my clarification...........
chowmama
(736 posts)Stop the payments, he gets out. Pay him to give him back - we get him back. El Presidente doesn't do anything for free, but will do anything for money.
On the other hand, if he's already dead or too damaged to avoid an international incident, that might be a motive for keeping him for free. I prefer to think El Presidente is being well paid to keep him.
When is the press going to follow the money?
Emile
(34,199 posts)stop sending our tax dollars to El Salvador to keep people in prison.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(10,349 posts)Can't say I'm surprised, but that does not help.
iemanja
(55,879 posts)That much is obvious. The clear remedy is for SCOTUS to demand no one else be sent to El Salvador.
DFW
(57,825 posts)Some day (I hope), this "so whatcha gonna do about it?" attitude is going to get him in trouble. If I could only figure out from whom! His worst enemy right now seems to be Mother Nature. No matter how lucky he got with his cholesterol tolerance, no executive order is going to unclog his arteries.
proud patriot
(101,844 posts)when the el savador president said "he wouldn't return a terrorist to the U.S." was pure
EVIL Wickedness .