Angry black wonan!!!’

I don’t know what to make of the Jasmine Crockett comment, but she seems to be a fixation. I think a certain segment of the Democratic Party would rather use Trumps policies to silence the Democratic progressives than to unite against those policies.

and not in a good way to their Fuhrer. Otherwise they'd ignore her.

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I’m so tired of the notion that only Democrats should be defending our %$@ country.

That is like saying we shouldn't look to fire fighters because "what about the arsonists?"

That makes no sense whatsoever. Of course we look to our representatives, not theirs.

official, who claims to care about the country.

Very good.

Yes, we need all elected Democratic members to step up and fight this at every level. However, NO elected official (that includes Independents and the Republicans) should be off the hook for this treason. Hold ALL of them to the fire... they all swore to uphold the constitution and protect it from all enemies, foreign and domestic.

Same goes for the press. Same goes for all US citizens, we all have a responsibility to fight this destruction of our country.

ALL the Dems in Congress could vote against anything - and it could still be the law. My choices are described for me.

Thanks to Fox and the tons of RW media outlets.

Each of the rest would prefer to be "The Dear Leader".

Of course, the approval figures are less low for Republicans than for Dems or Independents, but they're nowhere near 80% from what I've seen.

At least that’s good news. I wonder if the number of people who identify as Republicans has gone down. You would think so.

They will goose-step till they die.

If we wait for repubiQans to defend the country, we will lose our country.

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Constitution.

The wholly fascist GOP doesn't give two shits about their oaths.

That ought to be fully self evident at this point.

Got it!

What's the plan?

How about "If Any Elected Official Doesn't Speak Out ..."

May reason rule wherever you may dwell.

be the only party responsible to uphold the constitution.

Especially the party that is not in power at this time.

Fascists have no interest in defending our democracy.

The wholly fascist GOP fully intends to destroy our democracy and rule as fascist despots forevermore.

have an interest in defending democracy?

given the OP.

Honestly, the silence of the Democratic Party is baffling to me. We know the GOP isn't going to say anything, that's a given, but for our Democrat leaders to remain so silent?

The world is looking at us as Trump burns up the Constitution. They are wondering why people aren't protesting in the streets. To do nothing, to say nothing, is to show an appalling lack of will to save our country.

Look at what is happening in Turkey. Massive protests against Erdogan. And those protestors are protesting at a great risk to their safety. We, as a nation, need to rise up and protest Trump on a massive scale similar to the Vietnam War protests. And our party leaders need to step up as well.

to defend the country?

Bernie Sanders is Independent.

If Democrats are going to call out Republicans and Independents, it should be the leadership. But they don't, they can't, they won't because they would rather wait for the right circumstance. And Brown people being kidnapped and wrongfully imprisoned ain't it I suppose. Given this nation's history, is it any wonder?

member of the Congress and the Senate, accountable for what's happening. No one should get a pass.

Of course the GOP should be coming out against Trump, but what does that have to do with expecting my party to speak out against an innocent man being sent to an El Salvadoran prison?

I don't control whether the GOP speaks out or not. All I can control is what I do and what I ask my party leaders to do.

What is happening is wrong. I want my party to be on the right side of history and do what is right regardless of what someone else does or doesn't do.

of history. Democrats are NOT the problem.

No one is saying the Dems are the problem. You continue to conflate wanting the Dems to fight back harder/differently with saying Dems are the problem. Trump is the problem, the GOP enabling him is the problem, and I want my party fighting back harder.

AOC and Bernie have the right idea, and it's starting to resonate (30,000 showed up in Folsom, CA last night.) Cory Booker had the right idea with his marathon filibuster. Dem Representative Al Green, who stood up and protested at the SOTU, had the right idea. The House Dems who stood in silence while holding up bingo paddles had the wrong idea. AOC, Bernie, Cory Booker, and Al Green all protested from a position of active strength, not weak passive symbolism. It is our duty as Democrats to let the leaders we voted for hear our voices.

Complaining about how your party does or doesn't fight back against what another party is doing is not the same as saying your party is the problem.

I read about Democrats voicing their disagreement everywhere. I don't watch tv anymore but fully understand that Democrats are not given the same voice in media.

Why not complain about Republicans doing something about this madness? Why do the instigators get a pass? Have you called your reps? Especially if they are GOP.
Or is it easier to blame Democrats for the things Republicans do?

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You are conflating voicing my concerns to my party with "blaming" them for what is happening. No one is "blaming" the Democrats, but as a Democrat, I'm letting them know I want those speaking out to continue to do so, and those who aren't to start speaking out.

People urged their representatives to speak out against Jim Crow during the Civil Rights movement. They didn't waste time thinking "why do I have to go down to the South and protest? The people living in those states should be doing that!"

I will add that I am extremely angry and frustrated with the Republicans, as they are the ones who have the power right now to stop Trump, but they aren't. Worse, they are echoing his lies! But I've gotten to the point where that anger and frustration is making me feel helpless and exhausted, it's fruitless. This isn't about a "pass" or blame; history will judge that, this is about taking action and rising up.

they are GOOSE-STEPPING to Trump

eom

they start wars based on lies, they mismanage a pandemic, they crash the economy over and over

and what happens?

THE ENTIRE GOVERNMENT WAS HANDED TO THEM

now.

Lips firmly planted on trumps ass. Democrats need to win the mid terms big and this issue should be a golden goose for them along with about 2 dozen others.

That's who he speaks to. There aren't a whole lot of Republicans watching Pod Save America.

about the Nazis not trying to stop Hitler in 1939.

for everything. Never republicans. So tiresome.

going on. Only a few elected Dems are blaming them but there are a lot of elected Democrats who are not blaming them. They need to all be speaking out about Republican compliance.

It's circular firing squad thinking.

and painfully naive

will appreciate your efforts

Sorry, but integrity matters, even if you don't think so.

Integrity matters. There isn't much chance that someone with an R after their name has much integrity. It is now the party of bad faith and a whole bunch of hate.

Why drive more away?

to defend the country against all enemies - foreign and domestic? This is NOT a political issue.

You must have missed where I posted that And yes it is a fucking political issue.

what? By making it political, we're belittling what is happening.

So even when Republicans fuck things up it's seen as the fault of democrats for not preventing it.

and when we have very little.

Perhaps that's where we differ? I do NOT.

Yes, "fuck them Democrats" will help us all defeat fascism.

I expect every elected official who takes the oath of office to honor that oath, period.

post well... I won't bother.

Good luck.

You suggested again that Democrats better do something and a few Republicans should join them.

We have to take back the house and senate in 2026 and pissing on Democrats doesn't help that effort.

My God, if today's Democrats can't pick up the flag and bring it to the fight, get some that will.

Keep democrats divided, attacking each other so they keep winning elections.

helps Republicans

Correct as usual.

There is doing.
There is not doing.

There is no such thing as trying.

both houses of congress and the Supreme Court. But sure it's all the democrats fault. The Purity police is why democrats lose elections.

but apparently that's not good enough. It's just making the perfect the enemy of the good.

Have a better one y'all.

Eat well, sleep well, stay well.

All my best to you and yours.

The GOP is wholly fascist.

They want to destroy our democracy, deport and imprison for life any that dare oppose their unbridled fascist depravity.

That. Is. What. The. GOP. Desires.

Any other questions y'all?

Standing up to fascism, the issue of our time, is not minor or optional. You expect nothing, you get nothing.

that's just unrealistic

Sure, go along with concentration camps, sending Americans to El Salvador. It's unrealistic to expect decent human beings to speak out against such things. Say goodbye to America. it's unrealistic to expect the people we elect to serve our interests to actually stand up for us.

But when you everyone only do it the way you want, isn't that fascist too.

But blaming democrats for not being perfect will only help Republicans