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NCDem47

(2,784 posts)
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 05:53 PM Apr 14

I think today's Trump show was very, very intentional to send a message and incite fear.

He WANTS people to know nobody is out of his reach if they cross him in ANY manner.

Here.

In the U.S.

The President using fear to keep citizens in line.

It has absolutely sent a chill through America.

Cue the folks who say, "Well, if you obey the laws, you have nothing to fear." What happends when those "laws" are changed to restrict or outright ban thought, movement and choice? When your very existence is breaking a law?

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I think today's Trump show was very, very intentional to send a message and incite fear. (Original Post) NCDem47 Apr 14 OP
I think you are correct and Tickle Apr 14 #1
Because he is probably already dead. OMGWTF Apr 15 #57
I think that to Tickle Apr 15 #60
Yep, if you are trans, you are already "against the law." Coventina Apr 14 #2
What about the gay make-up artist who's been sent down there? Have seen allegorical oracle Apr 14 #18
Is anyone working to get him home? Bettie Apr 14 #27
their non christianity. AllaN01Bear Apr 14 #39
The nightmare must seem real and possible C_U_L8R Apr 14 #3
Yep. The tyrant has always ruled by fear and bigotry dalton99a Apr 14 #4
Imagine the fear of the 1.3 million foreign-born Salvadorean immigrants in the US. sop Apr 14 #5
The Fascist Playbook MayReasonRule Apr 14 #6
The Nazi way Owens Apr 15 #54
"Home growns" HereForTheParty Apr 14 #7
He wants to incite fear every day of the week. William769 Apr 14 #8
Changing the subject.... Lovie777 Apr 14 #9
Exactly! Chi67 Apr 14 #15
Great point! And the movement against Musk is a good model. thought crime Apr 14 #37
Or laws are enforced or not depending on the accused. My friends are rewarded, my enemies are imprisoned. surfered Apr 14 #10
PRETTY SURE YOU ARE SPOT ON vapor2 Apr 14 #11
Not to freak anyone out... róisín_dubh Apr 14 #12
Or, read up on Hungary's Orban, Turkey's Erdogan, Russia's Putin. All "elected" and all became "strong men". SharonAnn Apr 15 #53
Of course bdamomma Apr 14 #13
Exactly...if we do, all is lost! PortTack Apr 14 #24
Free speech is under attack for sure. Ironic since they whined about the same since January 6, 2021 Evolve Dammit Apr 14 #14
Congress it's your time flamingdem Apr 14 #16
He may just be worse than Putin. Truly hateful human. nt allegorical oracle Apr 14 #17
The magnitude of his evil is incomprehensible... GiqueCee Apr 14 #19
"...Step up, or step down." dchill Apr 14 #25
Absolutely! ReRe Apr 14 #30
More than one lamp post will be needed Martin Eden Apr 15 #50
When will the Repugs controlling Congress act against his tyranny? mdbl Apr 14 #20
That was bizarre. We can't do anything about what we both did. Then Miller... underpants Apr 14 #21
Rubio is just ... Dorian Gray, near the end. dchill Apr 14 #23
"Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me." dchill Apr 14 #22
That poem has been in my head all day oregonjen Apr 14 #26
Mine, too. As it should. dchill Apr 14 #32
Hmm. I wonder if he reads my daily IHDY posts. Orrex Apr 14 #28
I hope not. dchill Apr 14 #33
I doubt it. Harker Apr 14 #35
He has mortality issues thought crime Apr 14 #36
I dream every day of facing his mortality Orrex Apr 14 #40
I look forward to it daily. Harker Apr 14 #45
The courts are too slow as he's ramping up his authoritarianism. We need to act. chowder66 Apr 14 #29
This is his modus operandi. He lies, he cheats he steals. Not qualified to be human! dai13sy Apr 14 #31
It gets darker every day thought crime Apr 14 #34
Felon wants a Military parade on 6/14 sagetea Apr 14 #38
I Am the Law! YepYep Apr 14 #41
I am just hoping that enough Republicans finally have enough and do something to stop him. totodeinhere Apr 14 #42
Constitution Iamscrewed Apr 14 #43
Really? MorbidButterflyTat Apr 14 #44
If you think members of DU are the ones inciting fear - TBF Apr 15 #58
I'm bdamomma Apr 14 #46
Well if you're white you've got nothing to fear .... live love laugh Apr 15 #47
Except his inciting anger instead Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 15 #48
In 1973 The Gulag Archipelago was published. Americans were appalled at the brutal repression of Soviet tyranny. Martin Eden Apr 15 #49
The GOP has embraced EVIL. The Rump believes he invincible. Onthefly Apr 15 #51
Obey the laws? -misanthroptimist Apr 15 #52
I will repeat this to any maga that cross my path. louis-t Apr 15 #55
Trump is always DENVERPOPS Apr 15 #56
I think MAGA is in for a rude awakening if they think all the guns are possessed by them. Crowman2009 Apr 15 #59
Third Party Operator bpj62 Apr 15 #61
Or what happens when the laws aren't changed, your obeying them, and they whisk you off anyway? Fil1957 Apr 15 #62
What does one have to do to be out of line? Kaleva Apr 15 #63
FUCK TRUMP YoshidaYui Apr 15 #64
Cue the folks who say, "Well, if you obey the laws, you have nothing to fear." Lokee11 Apr 15 #65
1st felon... Godot51 Apr 15 #66

Tickle

(4,044 posts)
1. I think you are correct and
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 05:54 PM
Apr 14

it was made clear to the Garcia family that he's not coming back in this administration

Coventina

(28,314 posts)
2. Yep, if you are trans, you are already "against the law."
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 05:55 PM
Apr 14

Next it will be LGB as well.
then,
Non-Christian

and on from there....

allegorical oracle

(4,710 posts)
18. What about the gay make-up artist who's been sent down there? Have seen
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 07:07 PM
Apr 14

pictures of him and he's adorable. Breaks my heart.

Bettie

(18,188 posts)
27. Is anyone working to get him home?
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 07:44 PM
Apr 14

or the others who were similarly taken?

I see the one guy, but I hope there is a larger effort to bring more of them back or at least send them to their home countries.

C_U_L8R

(47,175 posts)
3. The nightmare must seem real and possible
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 06:01 PM
Apr 14

That's how you rule by fear.

Until the masses turn on you and hang you upside down in the town square.
Until then, it's all the tyranny you can eat.

sop

(13,843 posts)
5. Imagine the fear of the 1.3 million foreign-born Salvadorean immigrants in the US.
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 06:11 PM
Apr 14

(Pew Research) "In 2021, an estimated 2.5 million people of Salvadoran origin resided in the United States, making Salvadoran immigrants the third-largest Hispanic population in the U.S. This includes both those born in El Salvador and those of Salvadoran descent born in the U.S. The Salvadoran foreign-born population in the U.S. grew by 147% between 2000 and 2021, from 540,000 to 1.3 million."


Lovie777

(18,134 posts)
9. Changing the subject....
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 06:14 PM
Apr 14

the world is losing confidence and therefore the dollar is losing it’s value. This is not good for the USA’s economy.

As to fear, shithole musk republicans are the ones afraid. Most in the world, USA basically have lost the leadership status and defying the laws will not play in their favor especially here with the American people.

Chi67

(1,188 posts)
15. Exactly!
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 07:01 PM
Apr 14

Don’t be afraid! Make them afraid! We have power. Already made Musk cry, and we can make more of them cry.

thought crime

(174 posts)
37. Great point! And the movement against Musk is a good model.
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 08:16 PM
Apr 14

Hit them where it hurts most - in the pocketbook. Stop consuming, and the oligarchs will cry.

surfered

(6,344 posts)
10. Or laws are enforced or not depending on the accused. My friends are rewarded, my enemies are imprisoned.
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 06:20 PM
Apr 14

róisín_dubh

(11,983 posts)
12. Not to freak anyone out...
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 06:24 PM
Apr 14

But anyone curious about where this could go should read up on histories of dictatorships in Latin America. Yes, they were military dictatorships and so not exactly comparable.
But there are a ton of parallels. And they are frankly very frightening.

SharonAnn

(14,027 posts)
53. Or, read up on Hungary's Orban, Turkey's Erdogan, Russia's Putin. All "elected" and all became "strong men".
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 09:21 AM
Apr 15

bdamomma

(68,097 posts)
13. Of course
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 06:27 PM
Apr 14

The felon wants to instill fear in people, Do NOT LET THEM DO IT. He's nothing but a CRIMINAL.

Remember when he went to North Korea??? He admired how Kim Jong Un has his people under his thumb. Do we really want this POS do that to Americans???

Evolve Dammit

(20,540 posts)
14. Free speech is under attack for sure. Ironic since they whined about the same since January 6, 2021
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 06:41 PM
Apr 14

GiqueCee

(2,155 posts)
19. The magnitude of his evil is incomprehensible...
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 07:13 PM
Apr 14

... and he will not stop until he IS stopped. EVERY Republican politician is now on notice: Step up, or step down. There is no conceivable way this can be allowed to happen, and if you refuse to be part of the solution, then you are part of the problem, and will be dealt with accordingly. If you accede to his lawlessness, NO law will save you from the retribution you deserve.
Hand up articles of impeachment NOW.

ReRe

(11,569 posts)
30. Absolutely!
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 07:54 PM
Apr 14

What happened to Mussolini can happen here. Only, this time, those who defended the evil one might well be held accountable in the same way Mussolini and his girlfriend were.

So Republicans, make your minds up fast. Because we are one step away from full on Fascism. Only Republicans can stop this now in it's tracks. Good people in this country and all over the world beseech you to do the right thing.

mdbl

(6,300 posts)
20. When will the Repugs controlling Congress act against his tyranny?
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 07:19 PM
Apr 14

They are just as complicit as long as they allow it.

underpants

(190,134 posts)
21. That was bizarre. We can't do anything about what we both did. Then Miller...
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 07:21 PM
Apr 14

orchestrated for him to step up and be a dick AND be wrong as usual.
Bondi lied at least 4 times.
Rubio is just …..🙄

Orrex

(65,064 posts)
28. Hmm. I wonder if he reads my daily IHDY posts.
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 07:44 PM
Apr 14

I mean, I wonder if someone reads them to him.

thought crime

(174 posts)
36. He has mortality issues
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 08:09 PM
Apr 14

Mortality brushed his ear. Made him think about it, and his bitterness is on full display.

Harker

(16,116 posts)
45. I look forward to it daily.
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 08:50 PM
Apr 14

Every now and then I contribute.

I hope I live to answer your inquiry with a cheer and a "finally!"

sagetea

(1,494 posts)
38. Felon wants a Military parade on 6/14
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 08:27 PM
Apr 14

Flag Day. What is going to happen on July 4th.?

Maybe WE should claim 7/4. I'm ready.


sage

YepYep

(18 posts)
41. I Am the Law!
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 08:34 PM
Apr 14

Do you really believe he doesn’t care about breaking the law? He believes his word is law and anything else doesn’t apply to him. Of course, he also believes that he is 6 foot 3 inches tall, and 224 pounds weight.

totodeinhere

(13,601 posts)
42. I am just hoping that enough Republicans finally have enough and do something to stop him.
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 08:40 PM
Apr 14

It hasn't looked like that will happen so far. But they are the only ones who can stop him. The Democrats and the courts cannot stop him. We would need around 20 Republican senators to break ranks and vote to convict him in an impeachment trial. And we would need only three or four Republicans to break ranks in the House.

Iamscrewed

(160 posts)
43. Constitution
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 08:42 PM
Apr 14

Failure to uphold the constitution is a violation of the oath of office. Impeach or use the 25th amendment.

TBF

(35,085 posts)
58. If you think members of DU are the ones inciting fear -
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 01:48 PM
Apr 15

you are not paying attention. Long term DU members are reporting what they saw. The fact that you question their interpretation is frankly alarming.

What did you see in that conference between the 2 dictators?

bdamomma

(68,097 posts)
46. I'm
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 09:00 PM
Apr 14

just asking this question, since we are aware of what's going on politically, how many of Americans are not? regarding how the felon wants to kidnap Americans and send them to gulags.

Like what if we didn't give him any attention to this fear, he is trying to instill in people to make us stay in line.

live love laugh

(15,204 posts)
47. Well if you're white you've got nothing to fear ....
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 02:13 AM
Apr 15

literally is where the proverbial bar has moved to.

It’s always been biased that way but the kidnapping threat hardens the shift.

Martin Eden

(14,179 posts)
49. In 1973 The Gulag Archipelago was published. Americans were appalled at the brutal repression of Soviet tyranny.
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 07:48 AM
Apr 15

Today's President of the United States of America is creating The Gulag El Salvador, into which he can throw anyone he doesn't like into a black hellhole of no return.

Yesterday in front of cameras he said he can do this to "homegrowns" -- American citizens -- while the US Secretary of State and other high administration officials laughed in approval.

Can this really be happening in America?

louis-t

(24,263 posts)
55. I will repeat this to any maga that cross my path.
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 12:17 PM
Apr 15

He wants to send anyone he doesn't like to prison. Let me ask you something, what if he decides he doesn't like you?

DENVERPOPS

(11,861 posts)
56. Trump is always
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 12:46 PM
Apr 15

trying to "One Up" others and claiming to be the best at everything............

This time, he is trying to "One Up" Hitler........

Crowman2009

(3,063 posts)
59. I think MAGA is in for a rude awakening if they think all the guns are possessed by them.
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 01:51 PM
Apr 15

We'll probably veer into the radical craziness of the late 60's, riots included. Plus I doubt every single serviceman will fall in line with Gen. Bonespur and his drunk/perverted underlings.

bpj62

(1,048 posts)
61. Third Party Operator
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 03:11 PM
Apr 15

The dissapearance or exile of American citizens will be done by a third party player that has the means and wherewithal to make it happen. That person is Eric Prince and he is actively pitching a deportation plan that is on steroids
He will operate independently of law enforcement and he is a zealot who will do Trumps bidding and get paid handsomely for it.
When it happens and it is not a matter of if but when, it won't be one of us on Facebook or DU who suddenly disappear without a trace it will be a well known name in democratic circles. Trump will deny any knowledge of the disappearance but the message will have been sent. Why do you think all those former Trump and Biden officials have lost thier security details.

Fil1957

(55 posts)
62. Or what happens when the laws aren't changed, your obeying them, and they whisk you off anyway?
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 03:13 PM
Apr 15

Kaleva

(39,257 posts)
63. What does one have to do to be out of line?
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 03:15 PM
Apr 15

I'm unaware of any DUer who has been arrested and evicted from the country despite how much we publicly despise him and openly state that we voted against him

Lokee11

(336 posts)
65. Cue the folks who say, "Well, if you obey the laws, you have nothing to fear."
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 05:37 PM
Apr 15

Last edited Tue Apr 15, 2025, 07:56 PM - Edit history (1)

This Orange Muthafucka breaks laws on the daily and is a fucking felon and an adjudicated MF'n Rapist!!

These people are just so fucking dense!!!!

The occurrence is horrible in every way imaginable, but what these ignorant fucking people do not realize is that there was NO DUE PROCESS - and what that really means is not that "if you obey the laws, you have nothing to fear" it means that if they want to do something they will do it - does not matter if you were being great, good, bad, or horrible - it does not matter if you "belong" here or have the "right" to be here or not - all that matters is they decided they want you gone, and if so they will "disappear" you - how do they not fucking get that?!?!?!?!?

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