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Nevilledog

(54,712 posts)
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 06:31 PM Apr 2025

Cory Doctorow: Tesla accused of hacking odometers to weasel out of warranty repairs

https://pluralistic.net/2025/04/15/musklemons/

A lawsuit filed in February accuses Tesla of remotely altering odometer values on failure-prone cars, in a bid to push these lemons beyond the 50,000 mile warranty limit:

https://www.thestreet.com/automotive/tesla-accused-of-using-sneaky-tactic-to-dodge-car-repairs

The suit was filed by a California driver who bought a used Tesla with 36,772 miles on it. The car's suspension kept failing, necessitating multiple servicings, and that was when the plaintiff noticed that the odometer readings for his identical daily drive were going up by ever-larger increments. This wasn't exactly subtle: he was driving 20 miles per day, but the odometer was clocking 72.35 miles/day. Still, how many of us monitor our daily odometer readings?

In short order, his car's odometer had rolled over the 50k mark and Tesla informed him that they would no longer perform warranty service on his lemon. Right after this happened, the new mileage clocked by his odometer returned to normal. This isn't the only Tesla owner who's noticed this behavior: Tesla subreddits are full of similar complaints:

https://www.reddit.com/r/RealTesla/comments/1ca92nk/is_tesla_inflating_odometer_to_show_more_range/

This isn't Tesla's first dieselgate scandal. In the summer of 2023, the company was caught lying to drivers about its cars' range:

https://pluralistic.net/2023/07/28/edison-not-tesla/#demon-haunted-world

Drivers noticed that they were getting far fewer miles out of their batteries than Tesla had advertised. Naturally, they contacted the company for service on their faulty cars. Tesla then set up an entire fake service operation in Nevada that these calls would be diverted to, called the "diversion team." Drivers with range complaints were put through to the "diverters" who would claim to run "remote diagnostics" on their cars and then assure them the cars were fine. They even installed a special xylophone in the diversion team office that diverters would ring every time they successfully deceived a driver.

These customers were then put in an invisible Tesla service jail. Their Tesla apps were silently altered so that they could no longer book service for their cars for any reason – instead, they'd have to leave a message and wait several days for a callback. The diversion center racked up 2,000 calls/week and diverters were under strict instructions to keep calls under five minutes. Eventually, these diverters were told that they should stop actually performing remote diagnostics on the cars of callers – instead, they'd just pretend to have run the diagnostics and claim no problems were found (so if your car had a potentially dangerous fault, they would falsely claim that it was safe to drive).

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Cory Doctorow: Tesla accused of hacking odometers to weasel out of warranty repairs (Original Post) Nevilledog Apr 2025 OP
Ah yes, the anal glands of the weasel -- also known as "musk" Blue Owl Apr 2025 #1
Kind of like a weasel fart.. Permanut Apr 2025 #4
Musk is a sociopath, of course he is going to lie, cheat, steal, grift. Irish_Dem Apr 2025 #2
I'm shocked, SHOCKED! Well not that shocked. Initech Apr 2025 #3
I find this baffling dsc Apr 2025 #5
It is legal if nobody enforces it. Bluetus Apr 2025 #7
This is what rent-capitalisism devolves to. Own nothing, pay through the nose forever. Silent corruption. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2025 #6
That should bury the used car market for Tesla if true. flvegan Apr 2025 #8
Yep! MayReasonRule Apr 2025 #9

dsc

(53,321 posts)
5. I find this baffling
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 07:11 PM
Apr 2025

“Tesla Inc. employs an odometer system that utilizes predictive algorithms, energy consumption metrics, and driver behavior multipliers that manipulate and misrepresent the actual mileage travelled by Tesla vehicles,” reads the lawsuit. “In so doing, Defendants can, and do, accelerate the rate of depreciation of the value of Tesla vehicles and also the expiration of Tesla vehicle warranties to reduce or avoid responsibility for contractually required repairs as well as increase the purchase of its extended warranty policy.”

First, I can't imagine this would be legal in any state and second, I would think the mechanism to measure speed and that which measures difference would be the same.

Bluetus

(2,296 posts)
7. It is legal if nobody enforces it.
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 09:24 PM
Apr 2025

And nobody did. The victim had to file a civil suit.

Musk is a sleazy as the day is long.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
6. This is what rent-capitalisism devolves to. Own nothing, pay through the nose forever. Silent corruption. . . . nt
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 07:22 PM
Apr 2025

flvegan

(65,775 posts)
8. That should bury the used car market for Tesla if true.
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 10:08 PM
Apr 2025

Trade in a car with a defective odometer? No thank you. Can't realistically certify the odometer.

Purchase a used car with unknown mileage and grounds for a warranty claim to be denied? LOL, yeah no thanks.

What utter four-wheeled shit.

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