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bif

(26,602 posts)
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 09:35 AM Apr 2025

The whole stock market crash and recovery was a ruse to make billions

For the Rapist's buddies. The second the word "tariffs" left his lips, it crashed. And as soon as he talked about reducing them, it bounced back. Amazing the the words of a senile, crackpot can set the whole world on fire.

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The whole stock market crash and recovery was a ruse to make billions (Original Post) bif Apr 2025 OP
Yes. But it's not over yet. The unintended consequences continue. Scrivener7 Apr 2025 #1
I agree. Duncanpup Apr 2025 #3
But, hey, pootin is thrilled with kraznov's initiatives SheltieLover Apr 2025 #6
Yes pootie loves his cockholster Krasnov. Duncanpup Apr 2025 #10
Trump has played his cards badly. NCDem47 Apr 2025 #45
Staying out WVlaserguy Apr 2025 #2
I can't cash out Old Crank Apr 2025 #16
Marjorie Traitor Greede said it's all really super-legal like. Kid Berwyn Apr 2025 #4
Not even legal-adjacent, Marge. dchill Apr 2025 #15
Yes it seems quite obvious it was a huge lucrative scam. Irish_Dem Apr 2025 #5
They have done this many times DENVERPOPS Apr 2025 #26
When in power the GOP always backs up their limos to the US treasury. Irish_Dem Apr 2025 #46
If you look at a graph DENVERPOPS Apr 2025 #47
It is all by design. Irish_Dem Apr 2025 #49
This time, DENVERPOPS Apr 2025 #51
Musk and Trump probably have already done it. Irish_Dem Apr 2025 #52
About a month ago DENVERPOPS Apr 2025 #53
Yep. They helped themselves to plenty of souvenirs. Irish_Dem Apr 2025 #54
The way I have it figured is that DENVERPOPS Apr 2025 #55
Jebus God yes I have seen the gold shit storm in the Oval Office. Irish_Dem Apr 2025 #57
Knowing Trump, DENVERPOPS Apr 2025 #58
Yep velvet Elvis paintings right up his ally. Irish_Dem Apr 2025 #59
That is not how Bitcoin works, it is literally impossible to 'commandeer the entire BitCoin and Crypto supply' Celerity Apr 2025 #61
Thank you for the comprehensive DENVERPOPS Apr 2025 #62
The US currently has around 147.3 million ounces of gold stored at Fort Knox in Kentucky. At the current price of $3,328 Celerity Apr 2025 #63
Thx again Celerity DENVERPOPS Apr 2025 #64
I have seen all sorts of claims on the internet over the years, but the way I look at it, the entire Knox supply's total Celerity Apr 2025 #66
Sorry, I Can't Buy That ProfessorGAC Apr 2025 #7
+1. Never ascribe malfeasance when incompetence is one of the top hypotheses. Without specific Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2025 #19
thanks for interjecting a bit of solid reason stopdiggin Apr 2025 #34
Thanks misanthrope Apr 2025 #44
Let's see the post-DOGE jobs numbers & earnings reports. CrispyQ Apr 2025 #32
Nice rose colored glasses you have on there bobalew Apr 2025 #41
Prove It! ProfessorGAC Apr 2025 #43
In my way of thinking it seemed DENVERPOPS Apr 2025 #56
Did you notice DENVERPOPS Apr 2025 #50
And since it is such a good scam Marthe48 Apr 2025 #8
It's comical at this point wolfie001 Apr 2025 #21
Trillions... Largest heist in human history. yourout Apr 2025 #9
What recovery? Prairie Gates Apr 2025 #11
I think we're only halfway back from the losses we suffered after the tariff fiasco Walleye Apr 2025 #28
Yep!! At 10% the *CURRENT tariffs that are still in force are worse than Smoot Hawley uponit7771 Apr 2025 #48
Absolutely GoodRaisin Apr 2025 #12
I looked at the market Coolgoober Apr 2025 #13
He's either an idiot or an evil genius - can't be both GreatGazoo Apr 2025 #14
He's an idiot. Evidence is overwhelming for that explanation and absent for other explanations Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2025 #20
It's circumstantial evidence but evidence all the same Ponietz Apr 2025 #42
I think he's a total fucking idiot bif Apr 2025 #25
he is neither, he is a con.... stillcool Apr 2025 #30
This was a givin. William769 Apr 2025 #17
Yes it is Warpy Apr 2025 #18
Exactly right. "Pump and dump". It even has a name. FadedMullet Apr 2025 #22
There's so much pumping and dumping it's nauseating Walleye Apr 2025 #29
Traitor Iamscrewed Apr 2025 #23
Agree republianmushroom Apr 2025 #24
No. it wasn't. stopdiggin Apr 2025 #27
The only thing he's done in since Jan. 20th stillcool Apr 2025 #31
some of the things done, yes. stopdiggin Apr 2025 #35
what's brilliant about it? stillcool Apr 2025 #37
These more mellow statements are just spin to save Trump's ass. The inevitable tide of tariff recession is coming. Doodley Apr 2025 #33
True it is but there is so much more to come. The markets try to react today based on what they think the twodogsbarking Apr 2025 #36
There's been little recovery. spanone Apr 2025 #38
Yeah, this whole cycle is hardly over Johonny Apr 2025 #65
pity the suckers who sold off last week or the week before. WarGamer Apr 2025 #39
Congressional oversight should launch a major probe into INSIDER TRADING Martin Eden Apr 2025 #40
Yup republianmushroom Apr 2025 #60
Think of the current stock market as a craps game. Old Crank Apr 2025 #67
I'm inclined to agree... I hope if we ever get rid of them they are charged with insider trading etc. Meowmee Apr 2025 #68

Duncanpup

(15,525 posts)
3. I agree.
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 09:40 AM
Apr 2025

Economic concerns ahead as usual with a repig in office.
Yet this moron is just dumber than dog shit.

NCDem47

(3,315 posts)
45. Trump has played his cards badly.
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 12:39 PM
Apr 2025

He lives in the moment, so its up, its down, its up, its down. We all know the schtick.

Not sure about Wall Street, but Main Street isn't going to put up with it. They'll reign in and play very conservatively because the only thing that is ceratin is the the uncertainty with Trump, regardless if there's a quick buck to be made in the markets.

He is shown not to be a serious person to other countries and American businesses.

Old Crank

(6,604 posts)
16. I can't cash out
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 10:34 AM
Apr 2025

The tax consequences at way to dire in my situation.
Since 80% is in taxable when withdrawn accounts and the German Finanzamt, IRS, will take 40% .

If people are thinking of relocating to Europe this might be a good time to move as much as you can to Roth IRA instruments.
You will have to pay US taxes when you do so, and wait 5 years, I think, before you can pull the money, but it become tax exempt from the conversion ate on.

Irish_Dem

(79,371 posts)
5. Yes it seems quite obvious it was a huge lucrative scam.
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 09:44 AM
Apr 2025

Also the word on the street is that in addition to insider trading the the countries
forced to make tariff deals had to do business and invest in the Trump spawn's businesses.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
26. They have done this many times
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 11:13 AM
Apr 2025

Since the one in Reagan's period.......Sell short, dump the market, pay off your sold stocks with much cheaper purchases, wait for all of us to build it back up, then repeat.......

Irish_Dem

(79,371 posts)
46. When in power the GOP always backs up their limos to the US treasury.
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 01:08 PM
Apr 2025

Steals as much of tax payer funds and American resources as possible.

Dems always have to come in a do a clean up on aisle 14.
And fill up the piggy bank again.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
47. If you look at a graph
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 01:15 PM
Apr 2025

over the past 50+ years, the Repubs drive it down, sucking off the accomplishments of the Dems, then the Dem's Presidents build it back up, in a vicious cycle.........It looks like a roller coaster.............

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
53. About a month ago
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 05:08 PM
Apr 2025

Trump DEMANDED he and Musk be allowed to personally tour Fort Knox...........SERIOUSLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Irish_Dem

(79,371 posts)
54. Yep. They helped themselves to plenty of souvenirs.
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 05:16 PM
Apr 2025

Trump and Musk think they own everything.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
55. The way I have it figured is that
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 05:40 PM
Apr 2025

Musk and Trump are going to commandeer the entire BitCoin and Crypto supply. Then declare it the currency of the U.S.
The U.S. Government, to operate, will need a humongous supply of it.....which they will have to purchase from Trump and Musk, paying for it with all the gold in Fort Knox............

Have you seen a recent picture of the Oval Office Irish_Dem.......He has framed all kinds of shit (Literally) on all the walls in huge gold frames, with gaudy gold "things" on the Mantle and table tops, It is beyond trashy, sort of a "trailer park trashy" decor....

Irish_Dem

(79,371 posts)
57. Jebus God yes I have seen the gold shit storm in the Oval Office.
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 05:57 PM
Apr 2025

Looks like the Palace of Versailles meets bawdy house.
He even attached some of the gold to the antique WH fireplace in the Oval House.
Probably damaged it.

Can you imagine how he felt in Ft. Knox.
Had to be orgiastic for him.

Yes I think Musk, Trump and other billionaires are trying to figure out how to make
crypto the global standard. And of course they own it all.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
58. Knowing Trump,
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 06:03 PM
Apr 2025

I would have figured he would have those large black felt paintings you can buy in Mexico, with nude voluptuous, well endowed, women painted on them......Maybe even ones with Melania painted on them, like all the nude pics she used to do for him......

Celerity

(53,548 posts)
61. That is not how Bitcoin works, it is literally impossible to 'commandeer the entire BitCoin and Crypto supply'
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 06:58 PM
Apr 2025

Some the MAGAts and other shills were insanely claiming BTC could pay off the entire US national debt.

Bear in mind that there are only 21 million bitcoins possible ever, around 20 million have already been mined, and of that 20 million, 4 to 8 million are lost forever (via lost wallets, people who have died and did not leave the private keys to anyone, people who lost the private keys themselves, etc etc). Taking a conservative guess and saying 5 million are perma-lost, that leaves, atm, only 15 million or so out there. For the US to get to 3 million BTC, they would have to literally buy up 20% or so of all the bitcoins that will ever exist. They also can never come close to selling off 20% of the total supply without crashing the valuation to a massive level.

IF you take a pretty wildly optimistic valuation for BTC (I have seen a $3 million per BTC target by 2030) and assume that the US will end up with 1 million bitcoins (what the crypto bros are calling for), and then take that and and TRIPLE it (to 3 million BTC) that yields a gross valuation of only 9 trillion USD at $3m per BTC and the US somehow getting its hands on 3 million BTC.

The national debt will be over 40 trillion USD by 2030, probably far larger. 9 trillion USD (and that number is extraordinarily unlikely to be able to be realised via selling off the US holdings in toto or anywhere near in toto) will never come close to paying off that ever-increasing US national debt.

It is fantasy-land.

But let's go further......let's take it to a a fairly maximal future forward level.......................


By 2050 or so, counting unfunded liabilities, the US cumulative exposure could easily be closing in on 200 trillion USD (hard debt, plus unfunded liabilities, including massive transfers such as Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, etc).

Let's say that the US somehow (fantasy but let's play this out) ends up with HALF of all BTC that is available. Around 7.5 million bitcoins (and that is IF the number of perma-lost BTC stays at (or even is) only 5 million BTC lost, and that number (ie half of all BTC that is available) may well be, as time goes on, far too small, it may end up at 7 or even 8 million perma-lost BTC, reducing the 7.5m BTC US holding number (if we are saying the US holds HALF of all BTC) down to as low as 6 million BTC)

Let us also project an extraordinary 10 MILLION USD per BTC market valuation, and lets say the US DOES end up with 7.5 million BTC.

That 7.5 million BTC would have a GROSS value (if ALL were liquidated, which again is impossible for reasons stated before) of 75 trillion USD.

Nowhere near paying off the hard national debt (which if we go off current deficit rates, could be around 80 trillion USD by 2050) PLUS covering the the future unfunded liabilities (over 100 trillion USD atm).

And that is with my utterly profound fantasy-land projections of the US holding HALF of all of the entire BTC supply and a ONE HUNDRED-AND-SEVEN -FOLD increase in the price from its current 93,500 or so USD per BTC, plus some the US dumping all 7.5 million BTC it holds (which would eviscerate the entire market)


DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
62. Thank you for the comprehensive
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 07:19 PM
Apr 2025

explanation Celerity............fascinating.........

I said that scenario half-joking, but maybe you have some realistic thoughts on how Trump will loot Fort Knox.....We all know of his life time of adoring Gold........for his ludicrous display of wealth.........

Wealth and Gold are just two of the three things that help him offset his Psychological need to compensate for his TWPC

Celerity

(53,548 posts)
63. The US currently has around 147.3 million ounces of gold stored at Fort Knox in Kentucky. At the current price of $3,328
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 07:39 PM
Apr 2025

per ounce, that is 490.2 billion USD in total value. Those 147.3 million ounces held at Fort Knox are a little over half of the total US gold reserves. So even IF the US liquidated ALL their gold reserves at the current price (impossible without battering the market to a significant degree) it would yield less than 1 trillion USD, which is less than the US governmental spends in toto in two months.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
64. Thx again Celerity
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 07:53 PM
Apr 2025

have you been following that it has been decades since the gold at Ft.Knox has truly/actually been "Audited".....
(Not crazy/fanatical internet crap).......The last time a small "Portion" was truly "assayed" was like decades ago, and only a limited number of random ingots............ and every ingot actually counted, has been quite awhile, maybe several presidents ago?

Celerity

(53,548 posts)
66. I have seen all sorts of claims on the internet over the years, but the way I look at it, the entire Knox supply's total
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 08:30 PM
Apr 2025

value (at current price) is actually (and this is mind-blowing) LESS than what one person, Musk, was worth on December 18th, 2024. That is when he when he briefly (per Bloomberg's valuation) passed the 500 billion USD mark in terms of his net worth. Forbes pegged him then at (if memory serves) 486 billion USD, in terms of his net worth. The price of gold was far less back then, so Musk was easily worth more than all the gold in Ft Knox at that point. Musk is now worth around 200 billion USD less (give or take 10 billion USD or so) than his all-time high. The Trumpian 2.0 regime has not been kind to Musk, and the berk can blame himself for much of his personal reversals of fortune.

I said all that to put the US dollar amount of the US gold reserves into perspective. It is small beer in the overall financial system's machinations.

ProfessorGAC

(75,683 posts)
7. Sorry, I Can't Buy That
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 09:55 AM
Apr 2025

If the markets were that predictable,TSLA wouldn't be 67% than a year ago while there revenues were static then fell.
I believe that in his megalomania, he thought tariffs were a way to be the one to eliminate income taxes and be his ticket to Rushmore.
With the markets down 5%+ YTD, those "billions" for his cronies would fail to cover the losses.
Do they care more about money tank anything else? Sure. But, everything isn't a conspiracy and some of these superrich people just got lucky. It doesn't mean they have market brilliance.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
19. +1. Never ascribe malfeasance when incompetence is one of the top hypotheses. Without specific
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 10:50 AM
Apr 2025

Without specific evidence I remain vaguely suspicious but I think incompetence explains it best for the time being, and has been best for some time.

Specific evidence is NOT Official A says B and market declines C. Nor Official D says E and market rises F. Nor is it hot mike comments in the Oval Office about mogul G making 500 million and mogul H making 9 billion without specific reference to time periods and actual moves. He may have been referring to general business gains since his election -- neither we nor the media know. Further the numbers referred to are not credible for possible market plays by those moguls in recent weeks; way too large.

stopdiggin

(14,917 posts)
34. thanks for interjecting a bit of solid reason
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 11:25 AM
Apr 2025

in place of the (too prevalent) "he said" speculation and conjecture.

misanthrope

(9,347 posts)
44. Thanks
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 12:35 PM
Apr 2025

I will admit to entertaining ideas that he was trying to manipulate the market for short-term gain. Your post reminds me that is far too complex an answer than incompetence.

CrispyQ

(40,612 posts)
32. Let's see the post-DOGE jobs numbers & earnings reports.
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 11:24 AM
Apr 2025

IDK how many months before the chaos shows, one, two? What happens when all those fired people are denied unemployment benefits cuz that's an expense we can't afford? And the ones who go back to offices that don't have desks or computers anymore. OMG, so much damage & harm done already. Also this at those I know who voted for this GD shit.

bobalew

(378 posts)
41. Nice rose colored glasses you have on there
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 12:15 PM
Apr 2025

This really is nothing but crass market manipulation! Done by the one person actually capable of benefiting from it: Eloon. Just a word in Dump’s ear, a short sale of other competitors stocks, and boom, billions made via insider manipulation. Yes trillion's lost by others. They have turned the market into a casino, with the oligarchy being the house guaranteed to win. This is the largest bank robbery in history in progress, run by a very criminal admin. Dump is most definitely a russian asset, disassembling the country apart per Putin’s bidding, as we stand & watch it happening, while the faithful MAGA’s tell you it’s OK, awaiting their $5k DOGE refund checks in the mail, hoping all this chaos will die down. Well, it isn’t, not until the orange rotted moron has completed his mission in trade for a hideous tower in Moscow, and a free ticket for his escape.

ProfessorGAC

(75,683 posts)
43. Prove It!
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 12:30 PM
Apr 2025

You're the one tossing out speculation & insults.
If you're so sure of yourself you ought to be able to find evidence to support your claims of manipulation.
If you can't prove your contentions, quit insulting people.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
56. In my way of thinking it seemed
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 05:50 PM
Apr 2025

to be a sort of a REVERSE, PUMP and DUMP........

Selling "SHORT" wouldn't be such a money making adventure, if they had to fill the stock they "SOLD" immediately, instead of three days later.......

AND, of course ..... it would be wonderful if they ever prosecuted the un-fathomaable amounts of illegal "Insider Trading", but the SEC and DOJ are not real good at that either.......

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
50. Did you notice
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 04:40 PM
Apr 2025

the HUMONGOUS amount of Insider Trading that went in one afternoon during the COVID Pandemic?????????????

Marthe48

(22,628 posts)
8. And since it is such a good scam
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 09:57 AM
Apr 2025

it will happen over and over. The latest was speculation about ousting Jerome Powel. When it floated, the DJIA dropped 3%. When felon denied his intentions, the market rebounded 1000 pts. Watch for more ploys to fiddle the market. Cheating is what they do.

Prairie Gates

(7,129 posts)
11. What recovery?
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 10:06 AM
Apr 2025

The Dow was over 45,000 in December and January.

The NASDAQ was over 20,000.

The S&P was over 6,100.

The major US indexes (and their relatively linked 401k plans) are all still down over 10% from their peaks.

Coolgoober

(217 posts)
13. I looked at the market
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 10:11 AM
Apr 2025

And thought, was this the plan or is Trump an idiot? Well first of all I think Trump is an idiot 24/7. This guy is dumb as a rock. He's never done a fucking thing in his life. He's never had to. He's never made a PB&J sandwich. He's a moron. All he knows how to do is swindle. Oh, and there is one other thing. He know how to listen to the last person who told him something (not necessarily advise) and repeat it and do it and brag about how it was his idea. And that brings us back to, was it a plan? The answer is yes but it was not Trumps!

GreatGazoo

(4,413 posts)
14. He's either an idiot or an evil genius - can't be both
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 10:21 AM
Apr 2025

This bounce is just people pushing him to back us away from the cliff he led us to.

We haven't made it above pre "Liberation day" levels because the damage is done -- USD, trust, ill will, etc.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
20. He's an idiot. Evidence is overwhelming for that explanation and absent for other explanations
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 10:53 AM
Apr 2025

A says B and market goes down C is not evidence of manipulation. Period.

Suspicion is not evidence.

Ponietz

(4,226 posts)
42. It's circumstantial evidence but evidence all the same
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 12:15 PM
Apr 2025

For instance, “where were you on the night that ___ happened?” calls for circumstantial evidence. Circumstance is always relevant.

Law enforcement sometimes starts investigations on nothing but circumstance. Courts admit circumstantial evidence every day unless it’s more prejudicial than probative. There’s nothing prejudicial about this evidence. But, as you say, it’s not direct evidence, and by itself doesn’t meet the legal threshold.

bif

(26,602 posts)
25. I think he's a total fucking idiot
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 11:11 AM
Apr 2025

And the people around him are just manipulating him. I think he's pretty out of it dementia-wise and he just barely knows what's going on. They're sending him out to play golf as much as they can to keep him from meddling.

Warpy

(114,363 posts)
18. Yes it is
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 10:47 AM
Apr 2025

There's a lot of pumping and dumping going on along with massive short selling. IOW, the market has been destabilized and the vultures are out in force, so be careful if you're still buying and selling. You can't compete with HFT and in a market like this one, it's easy to get burned to a crisp.

What these stupid people didn't expect is the blow up in the bond market. They're shocked--shocked, I tell you--that a loss of faith in this country as a rational trading partner has translated into a loss of faith in this country's currency.

It's hard to fathom how monumentally stupid these people are.

stopdiggin

(14,917 posts)
27. No. it wasn't.
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 11:14 AM
Apr 2025

and neither has the market 'recovered'

The most accurate part of this post comes in the final sentence.
It's F-ing incompetence (written in capital letters) - not some sort of brilliant game plan.

stillcool

(34,407 posts)
31. The only thing he's done in since Jan. 20th
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 11:24 AM
Apr 2025

is play golf. To think that he had the knowledge to do anything else is ludicrous. My God, all the people around him who have been making these plans for years. Not a brilliant game plan, but absolutely a well thought out plan long in the making.

stopdiggin

(14,917 posts)
35. some of the things done, yes.
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 11:30 AM
Apr 2025

the stock market (plus the dollar and treasury notes) fiasco ... Nope. You're not going to sell me on any brilliant strategy there. Just miserable incompetence.

stillcool

(34,407 posts)
37. what's brilliant about it?
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 11:54 AM
Apr 2025

cause and effect. Hell, I don't know...you could very well be right, and I could maybe be a little bit wrong...

Doodley

(11,573 posts)
33. These more mellow statements are just spin to save Trump's ass. The inevitable tide of tariff recession is coming.
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 11:24 AM
Apr 2025

What we have heard from Trump about deals being made, lower china tariffs, and no intention of firing Powell is BS. It's an idiot panicking about his own credibility, not manipulation.

twodogsbarking

(17,476 posts)
36. True it is but there is so much more to come. The markets try to react today based on what they think the
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 11:37 AM
Apr 2025

future will bring. When the future is bleak expect anything. Couple all that with no accountability and pissing off our greatest allies and countries we do the most business with and my pessimism increases. On the humanitarian side the US sucks even worse. Not the country 'tis of thee that I want.

Martin Eden

(15,314 posts)
40. Congressional oversight should launch a major probe into INSIDER TRADING
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 11:56 AM
Apr 2025

But the Rethug majority is more likely to be in on the grift than to seek indictments for these crimes.

That includes AG Pam Blondie.

Old Crank

(6,604 posts)
67. Think of the current stock market as a craps game.
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 02:03 AM
Apr 2025

Money is made and lost on every throw of the dice.

It doesn't matter where the value level is if you have someone in power willing to manipulate the values.

If people in the know see Trump about to do something that might drop the value they quietly sell stock. Stocks drop on his announcement. Now they quietly buy back in before he makes a change. Up go the stock's price. Now they hold the same amount as before and have pocketed the the difference.

Meowmee

(9,212 posts)
68. I'm inclined to agree... I hope if we ever get rid of them they are charged with insider trading etc.
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 05:58 AM
Apr 2025

But that doesn't happen very often. Anyone who thinks the market is never manipulated is not being realistic imo. The big money/ hedge funds do this in a different way.

Adam Schiff already said he wants it investigated. There are even more serious charges that still need to be addressed as well.

The whole world is watching all of this, and the US is declining in so many ways, as psycho destroys the US and the world economy.

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