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Escaped Floridian

(34 posts)
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 03:01 PM Apr 2025

By the way, Trump is a Russian AGENT

Not asset. Agent. He is actively working for Putin, doing his damnedest to weaken or even destroy America. I don't think I'm saying anything that most of you didn't already know. I just wanted to state it here in black and white.

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By the way, Trump is a Russian AGENT (Original Post) Escaped Floridian Apr 2025 OP
He's an agent and an ass. Dave Bowman Apr 2025 #1
You and the OP poster are correct, sir/madame. brush Apr 2025 #29
Repug Congress And Senate too lame54 Apr 2025 #2
He's not smart enough to be an agent or an asset. BlueTsunami2018 Apr 2025 #3
Yes, too dumb to call him an agent MadameButterfly Apr 2025 #6
Puppet indeed democrank Apr 2025 #28
Fred Koch was Stalin's bff. Heritage Found. Supported by koch $$$. Clouds Passing Apr 2025 #12
Fred hated Stalin. Yoyoyo77 Apr 2025 #32
He's a DUMB agent--- but he's what they bought Jack Valentino Apr 2025 #35
Need confirmation? Read homegirl Apr 2025 #44
Yes, great book! Clearly he was actively groomed by Russia to be an asset at minimum LymphocyteLover Apr 2025 #47
I believe that Putin ... dedl67 Apr 2025 #48
From personal homegirl Apr 2025 #53
The only thing I can imagine bad enough is a gay experience. Ligyron Apr 2025 #56
I'm not sure that fascism/oligarchy has to align with undermining Ukraine AdamGG Apr 2025 #40
he's too dumb and unreliable to be an official agent but he's definitely an asset LymphocyteLover Apr 2025 #46
Which is why Dems suggesting we need to move right is so infuriating. Putin tasked his agent with creating a cult. nt Blasphemer Apr 2025 #4
At his best, he's little more than Moscow's Useful Idiot Torchlight Apr 2025 #5
Whether he is or is not, Mme. Defarge Apr 2025 #7
Double naught? Bonx Apr 2025 #8
So is Vance. live love laugh Apr 2025 #9
I don't know how anyone can deny the Krasnov report at this point. They wouldn't have commissioned the most esteemed Karasu Apr 2025 #10
Asset, not agent Warpy Apr 2025 #11
His destruction of America has to be deliberate iemanja Apr 2025 #13
or just "following orders". Jack Valentino Apr 2025 #36
Exactly Escaped Floridian Apr 2025 #41
Putin might want him to tone it down a notch, not be so obvious. IronLionZion Apr 2025 #14
Malcom Nance said that today Botany Apr 2025 #15
100% agree. xuplate Apr 2025 #16
the manchurian candidate. AllaN01Bear Apr 2025 #17
MSM is trying super hard to provide both-sides analysis of daily outrages during 2 minute panel discussions. Instead, wiggs Apr 2025 #18
Agent. Asset. FUCKING TRAITOR. dchill Apr 2025 #19
Not just Trump ... CloudWatcher Apr 2025 #20
And Rubio UpInArms Apr 2025 #51
This may be the one job Trump may not screw up. gordianot Apr 2025 #21
To me more a half-witted asshat Hassler Apr 2025 #22
Been saying it since early 2016 - BEFORE he got elected! Grins Apr 2025 #23
How did the Republican party get so "red" ??? Jack Valentino Apr 2025 #37
Yep.. TY! Cha Apr 2025 #24
I think he is an agent ERW Apr 2025 #25
I'm not a conspiracy person but I totally believe that. It seems obvious to me. walkingman Apr 2025 #26
K&R Blue Owl Apr 2025 #27
Agree republianmushroom Apr 2025 #30
Has been for awhile now Pas-de-Calais Apr 2025 #31
He showed us that in 2016 Dem4life1970 Apr 2025 #33
Sure seems like it. calimary Apr 2025 #34
But... czarjak Apr 2025 #38
Let's just call him the 21st century version of "Agent Orange" ReRe Apr 2025 #39
Knowledge Iamscrewed Apr 2025 #42
He's been that for years. cstanleytech Apr 2025 #43
the congress critters who took nra money r assets. u r right, he's an agent. mopinko Apr 2025 #45
Biggest Traitor Ever Kid Berwyn Apr 2025 #49
That's my May 1st sign! RainCaster Apr 2025 #50
Melania is in her own right IMO get the red out Apr 2025 #52
Yes, Trump has long been a Russian asset. Martin68 Apr 2025 #54
Indeed Marvin Jones Apr 2025 #55
Trump has been visiting Russia since 1987 nowforever Apr 2025 #57

BlueTsunami2018

(4,826 posts)
3. He's not smart enough to be an agent or an asset.
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 03:16 PM
Apr 2025

He’s just likes the trappings of power. I don’t think the Heritage Foundation or the Federalist Society, the Project 2025 people, are Russian agents either. They are basically the John Birchers and their ideological descendants who have been around for decades and have finally found the way to do the things they’ve always wanted to do. It just so happens that their goals align with oligarchs the world over, Russian oligarchs included. They’re just standard fascists.


Piss doesn’t understand the first thing about how government works, he just has people in his ear telling him to do these things and they’ll make everyone love him or fear him, the only things he actually cares about. It’s all just a show to him.

MadameButterfly

(3,725 posts)
6. Yes, too dumb to call him an agent
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 03:39 PM
Apr 2025

but too actively working for Putin to be just an asset. The best word is puppet.

Yoyoyo77

(320 posts)
32. Fred hated Stalin.
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 06:37 PM
Apr 2025

Papa Koch worked overseas for Stalin and after that Hitler. He helped build the oil extraction industries in both. He was pissed that the Russians working with his crew kept getting tossed in the gulag. Hitler left the crew working with him alone, at least while Fred was still in the country. Fred loved the 3rd Reich Germany so much that he had his kids German nanny go with them when the family returned to Kansas. Natch!!!

Jack Valentino

(4,251 posts)
35. He's a DUMB agent--- but he's what they bought
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 10:10 PM
Apr 2025

who just happened to be elected President of the United States.


they made a good investment, as it turns out

homegirl

(1,917 posts)
44. Need confirmation? Read
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 05:45 AM
Apr 2025

AMERICAN KOMPROMAT by Carl Unger.

Complete with pages and pages of confirming footnotes!

dedl67

(156 posts)
48. I believe that Putin ...
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 07:15 AM
Apr 2025

has something on Trump that is very very bad. That's just my belief. But it is standard operating procedure of authoritarian regimes to acquire damaging blackmail material on whoever can be useful to them.

homegirl

(1,917 posts)
53. From personal
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 10:20 AM
Apr 2025

experience when visiting the USSR, every foreigner is tested. The hookers and the pee rumor is mild compared to what* Trump really did!

*Think teenage girls competing in Beauty Pageant!

Ligyron

(8,000 posts)
56. The only thing I can imagine bad enough is a gay experience.
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 01:16 PM
Apr 2025

Trump cares less about any female encounters, even underage ones. His supporters would only admire his manliness for whatever encounter and if underage, why the poor man was tricked gawd bless him. They’re always picking on him!

AdamGG

(1,860 posts)
40. I'm not sure that fascism/oligarchy has to align with undermining Ukraine
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 12:58 AM
Apr 2025

there's some Russian agent in the mix too, definitely on Trump's part. Many of the others just don't mind going along with it as a vehicle to meet their goals.

LymphocyteLover

(9,301 posts)
46. he's too dumb and unreliable to be an official agent but he's definitely an asset
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 06:33 AM
Apr 2025

and effectively a pro-Russian agent

Blasphemer

(3,566 posts)
4. Which is why Dems suggesting we need to move right is so infuriating. Putin tasked his agent with creating a cult. nt
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 03:16 PM
Apr 2025

Torchlight

(6,267 posts)
5. At his best, he's little more than Moscow's Useful Idiot
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 03:25 PM
Apr 2025

He possess neither the cunning nor the discipline to play at spy. mr. trump is pissing on the nation for his own profit, no cunning masterplan by Putin.

Karasu

(2,003 posts)
10. I don't know how anyone can deny the Krasnov report at this point. They wouldn't have commissioned the most esteemed
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 04:16 PM
Apr 2025

Last edited Wed Apr 23, 2025, 09:19 PM - Edit history (1)

artist in Russia to do a portrait of him for anything less. They're proud as fuck to have successfully installed one of their agents as "leader" of the US and have been openly bragging about it since his fucking first term.

Warpy

(114,363 posts)
11. Asset, not agent
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 04:24 PM
Apr 2025

Russians tend to err on the side of xemophobia, so their agents, who have a certain amount of automy and power, are all Rissoams/ Putin's Pet Piggy is just that, someone who can be controlled and commanded through blackmail, financial pressure, or some sort of one sided, fictional bromance. With PPP, it's likely all three.

Bust yeah, he's a Russian asset. It's just another reason Congress needs to be kicked off its dead collective behind and forced to do its job.

Jack Valentino

(4,251 posts)
36. or just "following orders".
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 10:13 PM
Apr 2025

He may be stupid enough to believe that what he is doing will help America in the end.


I don't see any evidence of "intelligence" from his actions in the last ten years,
do you??

On the other hand, he has shown himself to be easy to manipulate.

 
41. Exactly
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 01:49 AM
Apr 2025

It's so obvious, in fact, that I'm surprised Donnie doesn't just come out and say so. Hey, it wouldn't even cost him politically, because Congressional Republicans are too goddam chickenshit and MAGA voters are too fucking dumb.

IronLionZion

(50,728 posts)
14. Putin might want him to tone it down a notch, not be so obvious.
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 04:32 PM
Apr 2025

not that it matters much at this point. Who is going to hold them accountable?

xuplate

(156 posts)
16. 100% agree.
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 04:50 PM
Apr 2025

He is too dumb to plot out a take over this comprehensive and efficient. This is Soviet level subterfuge. Putin was weaned on these techniques.

wiggs

(8,654 posts)
18. MSM is trying super hard to provide both-sides analysis of daily outrages during 2 minute panel discussions. Instead,
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 05:09 PM
Apr 2025

they should start every conversation with the appropriate context of TSF's serious limitations and disorders...which have been apparent for decades. Kind of important.

Much of his behavior and actions are due to his fears, sociopathy, and limitations...including being an easy target for ex-KGB officials and other authoritarian leaders foreign and domestic.

This would bring everything into focus more clearly because it explains so, so much.

CloudWatcher

(2,127 posts)
20. Not just Trump ...
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 05:18 PM
Apr 2025

Don't look too closely at Mr Musk. And from today's NYT:

Vance Outlines U.S. Plan for Ukraine That Sharply Favors Russia

https://democraticunderground.com/10143446330

UpInArms

(53,959 posts)
51. And Rubio
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 09:43 AM
Apr 2025
Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Tuesday revealed a proposal for the largest State Department employment overhaul “in decades,” which would eliminate and restructuring entire offices in the department. Lost in the shake-up: Rubio wants to killed the Bureau of Conflict and Stabilization Operations, or CSO—the agency responsible for documenting Russian war crimes in Ukraine

The CSO also focuses on “conflict prevention, crisis response, and stabilization activities … driving integrated, civilian-led efforts to prevent, respond to, and stabilize crises in priority states, setting conditions for long-term peace.”*


https://newrepublic.com/post/194251/marco-rubio-state-department-eliminate-russia-office

gordianot

(15,731 posts)
21. This may be the one job Trump may not screw up.
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 05:25 PM
Apr 2025

Even then he might be more effective if no one suspected. Seems to me everyone knows Trump does not hide it.

Grins

(9,214 posts)
23. Been saying it since early 2016 - BEFORE he got elected!
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 05:33 PM
Apr 2025

And then he got elected.
And in 2017 he appointed Flynn .
And then Flynn got caught.
Flynn is another Russian asset.

And he launched a missile attack on Syria.
But first told the Russians so they could get out of the way of the incoming.

And then he fired Comey and bragged about it to Russian foreign minister.

And then he gave code-level secrets to Russians.

Then the CIA extracted their PRIME - MOST SECRET!!! - asset they ever had - in the top echelon of the Kremlin because even they suspected Trump.

And Helsinki.

And that was just his first 5- months!!!

The list is long. And then this year. Just his first 85-days…

He’s as Russian as bad Borscht and cheap vodka.

Jack Valentino

(4,251 posts)
37. How did the Republican party get so "red" ???
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 10:17 PM
Apr 2025

Oh yeah, I know... the "Russians are not communists anymore"...


That is certainly true, now they are more like the far right...

ERW

(13 posts)
25. I think he is an agent
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 05:53 PM
Apr 2025

He is dumb, but he doesn't have to think, he just needs to follow Putin's instructions on how to destroy the U.S.

Dem4life1970

(1,039 posts)
33. He showed us that in 2016
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 07:30 PM
Apr 2025

"Russia, if you are listening..." he said to an open mic.

He appointed Manafort.

He met with Russians in Trump Tower in early 2016.

He shared state secrets in the Oval Office with Russian officials (Sergie Lavrov and some other "pinkie, commie" as they would say).

Helsinki, prostrating himself before Putin on live TV.

He IS a Russian agent. 100%

ReRe

(12,164 posts)
39. Let's just call him the 21st century version of "Agent Orange"
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 11:22 PM
Apr 2025

but potentially a Trillion times more deadly than the original one.
All I know is he went to Russia back in 1987, can't remember if he was wanting to build one of his Trump Towers over there, or whether it had to do with the Beauty contest "business" (or both), but when he got back stateside he put a full length page ad in the NYTs along the lines of getting rid of NATO. Maybe Russia looked at him as an asset at that point. But. When Barack Obama gave his speech at that WH Correspondent's Dinner where he made a total fool out of DJT in his presence, that was the moment when the bad boy became a full on Agent. IMHO.

mopinko

(73,247 posts)
45. the congress critters who took nra money r assets. u r right, he's an agent.
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 06:20 AM
Apr 2025

assets dont run operations. the level of evil decisions he’s made wd need autonomy. unless he has a full time handler, in touch w moscow in real time, (which he might) he’s the head of the u.s. unit of putler’s army.

Kid Berwyn

(22,724 posts)
49. Biggest Traitor Ever
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 07:41 AM
Apr 2025

Donald J Trump represents the most successful spy operation of all time. And thanks to Just-us John Roberts redefining the meaning of "Insurrection" and the very words of the Constitution of the United States of America, an active Russian agent has been allowed to return to the Oval Office to again "serve" as the pee-resident.



Normally, I'd say: "Think about that!" But, destroying truth is what tyrants do. It's why they hate a free press.

It's why trumpf is doing all he can to sue anyone who ever wrote anything bad about him. Now he has the DoJ doing his dirty work and handing the legal bill to the U.S. taxpayer.

The photo of Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and dip above was taken by TASS, the official Russian news agency. The US media were not informed about the 2017 visit. We learned about it because the Unstable Moron himself spread the pic proudly on social media.

How many people do you know who’ve seen that picture or the one below, taken on an earlier date in the Oval Office? Again, very few.



“I just fired the head of the FBI. He was crazy, a real nut job," Trump said, according to The Times. "I faced great pressure because of Russia. That's taken off.”

"I'm not under investigation," he added.


Sources:

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/10/527755991/trump-meets-with-russias-lavrov-at-the-white-house-today

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-nut-job-james-comey-russia-2017-5

And this is the man leading the "restructuring of American government" today winking at Putin at a diplomatic affair during his first madministration.



No wonder Putin, the Kremlin and the GRU and whatever the KGB is called these days call him "America's Gorbachev." Gorby sped up the dissolution of the Soviet Union. Now Putin returns the favor through Trump and his destruction of America's economy, hailed just before the 2024 election by The Economist as "The Envy of the World."



Biggest Moron Ever, too.

get the red out

(13,943 posts)
52. Melania is in her own right IMO
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 09:48 AM
Apr 2025

I will NEVER forget the look of terror in her eyes in the first term when she met Putin. She is naturally such a haughty woman, but here she was, like a kid who just brought home a bad report card and now Daddy's home.

Marvin Jones

(22 posts)
55. Indeed
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 11:30 AM
Apr 2025

It is so obvious. Yet it is so hard for some to admit. He makes one remember the good things Benedict Arnold did BEFORE he became a traitor.

 

nowforever

(586 posts)
57. Trump has been visiting Russia since 1987
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 02:06 PM
Apr 2025

I hear the KGB loves to tape some visitors. I think Putin showed Trump some of those tapes and now has him on a leash and trained to bark on command.

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