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spanone

(141,002 posts)
Wed May 7, 2025, 10:50 PM May 2025

Sen. John Fetterman raises alarms with outburst at meeting with union officials, AP sources say

HARRISBURG, Pa. (AP) — Democratic Sen. John Fetterman of Pennsylvania was meeting last week with representatives from a teachers union in his home state when things quickly devolved.

Before long, Fetterman began repeating himself, shouting and questioning why “everybody is mad at me,” “why does everyone hate me, what did I ever do” and slamming his hands on a desk, according to one person who was briefed on what occurred.

As the meeting deteriorated, a staff member moved to end it and ushered the visitors into the hallway, where she broke down crying. The staffer was comforted by the teachers who were themselves rattled by Fetterman’s behavior, according to a second person who was briefed separately on the meeting.

The interaction at Fetterman’s Washington office, described to The Associated Press by the two people who spoke about it on the condition of anonymity, came the day before New York Magazine published a story in which former staff and political advisers to Fetterman aired concerns about the senator’s mental health.

https://apnews.com/article/john-fetterman-trump-democrats-senate-pennsylvania-8129e206ed9479ad8534eac3fd128abe

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Sen. John Fetterman raises alarms with outburst at meeting with union officials, AP sources say (Original Post) spanone May 2025 OP
Sorry to hear that. Silent Type May 2025 #1
Something ain't right here.... newdeal2 May 2025 #2
I know.. it's really sad... But the Nation needs All Cha May 2025 #23
Should Fetterman step down, Shapiro would tap another Democrat misanthrope May 2025 #52
I'm sad for Fetterman, frankly. mzmolly May 2025 #3
I'm starting to sound like a broken record JBTaurus83 May 2025 #4
Deplorable comment krkaufman May 2025 #18
nope NoRethugFriends May 2025 #24
Agree. MorbidButterflyTat May 2025 #55
The man had a stroke and is acting irrationally. Swede May 2025 #40
Regardless of language used, acting irrationally still means he can't do the job. tinrobot May 2025 #47
Yes, he must step down or be removed from his position. Swede May 2025 #48
a deplorable comment, indeed, but... Trueblue Texan May 2025 #42
Someone needs to intervene NOW. sheshe2 May 2025 #5
The video of him arguing with a pilot about using his seatbelt on an Nixie May 2025 #8
I saw that as well and I agree that he was lucky there. sheshe2 May 2025 #11
Oh I hadn't read about that, Nixie.. Mahalo. Cha May 2025 #26
Hi Cha! I hadn't seen that article yet. Thx for that. I was seeing Nixie May 2025 #41
Well, Thank You for telling us about Cha May 2025 #43
Yes, it is sad.. and I'm sorry this is Cha May 2025 #25
He needs to be forced out JustAnotherGen May 2025 #29
What if she's right? MorbidButterflyTat May 2025 #54
Sounds like a guy with depression. Good days and bad days. thebigidea May 2025 #6
Depression and possibly more. Ilsa May 2025 #12
Maybe bipolar? fujiyamasan May 2025 #21
I was thinking perhaps Bi-polar, too.. Cha May 2025 #27
His remaining staff members can't cover up for him forever. LudwigPastorius May 2025 #7
We made excuses for him b/c we needed the vote but it was obvious several years ago... nt Blasphemer May 2025 #9
Hmmm...didn't he have a stroke about mwmisses4289 May 2025 #10
Maybe there is some area in his brain that is Ilsa May 2025 #13
Stroke was before the election. krkaufman May 2025 #19
My dad had a massive stroke JustAnotherGen May 2025 #31
Good lord he needs to step down róisín_dubh May 2025 #14
I find it odd that cnn had an entire panel discussing this( F's mental state etc.) Meowmee May 2025 #15
Great point JBTaurus83 May 2025 #16
Yeah, there is something off here. Quiet Em May 2025 #17
I would find it much more bizarre if markodochartaigh May 2025 #20
I guess you missed my point/sarcasm 😹 Meowmee May 2025 #22
I know... It freaking Sucks. Whatever happened Cha May 2025 #28
I never liked the hoodie wearing senator Bread and Circuses May 2025 #30
Many people tried to warn everyone. I didn't expect THIS particular scenario or outcome * Oopsie Daisy May 2025 #32
I suffered a stroke recently BeerBarrelPolka May 2025 #33
He raised alarms ages ago malaise May 2025 #34
Right BeerBarrelPolka May 2025 #36
His politics haven't changed but it's clear he's personally struggling. He needs to go. WhiskeyGrinder May 2025 #35
How sad. People close to him must have seen this coming. Hopefully he will resign willingly. nt Exp May 2025 #37
Senator Fetterman needs help Uncle Joe May 2025 #38
You can't get away with that shit unless you're the president. milestogo May 2025 #39
The staffer was comforted by the teachers senseandsensibility May 2025 #44
Strokes can certainly affect one's personality depending on where stroke occurred in the brain. BigDemVoter May 2025 #45
No one ever wants to get out of the way. Xolodno May 2025 #46
Oh. Iggo May 2025 #49
He's not the same person he was before his stroke. ananda May 2025 #50
It sounds like it is time... kentuck May 2025 #51
So where are all the staffers, etc. MorbidButterflyTat May 2025 #53
I hope this gets under control soon JanMichael May 2025 #56

newdeal2

(4,765 posts)
2. Something ain't right here....
Wed May 7, 2025, 10:58 PM
May 2025

Ultimately I just hope we don't get screwed out of a Dem Senator.

Cha

(316,710 posts)
23. I know.. it's really sad... But the Nation needs All
Thu May 8, 2025, 01:21 AM
May 2025

Patriots on Deck.

As if Democracy Doesn't have Enough to Combat!

misanthrope

(9,367 posts)
52. Should Fetterman step down, Shapiro would tap another Democrat
Thu May 8, 2025, 10:17 PM
May 2025

Putting someone else in there to get their feet wet now would lessen the chances of a Republican winning the seat in 2028.

mzmolly

(52,612 posts)
3. I'm sad for Fetterman, frankly.
Wed May 7, 2025, 11:00 PM
May 2025

If he has an untreated mental health issue, he needs to get help.

JBTaurus83

(872 posts)
4. I'm starting to sound like a broken record
Wed May 7, 2025, 11:00 PM
May 2025

But as precarious as the situation is in my state of PA, we have got to force the nutcase out. Governor Shapiro could appoint a far more capable person. Fetterman will end up turning on us like Manchin or Sinema, and he has clear mental illness. They could run any Republican and beat him in the next election. I don’t know of anyone with a good opinion of him.

Swede

(38,319 posts)
40. The man had a stroke and is acting irrationally.
Thu May 8, 2025, 12:02 PM
May 2025

Calling him a nutcase is disgusting.

tinrobot

(11,947 posts)
47. Regardless of language used, acting irrationally still means he can't do the job.
Thu May 8, 2025, 06:41 PM
May 2025

He may need to step aside for his own health as well as the well-being of his constituents.

Trueblue Texan

(4,186 posts)
42. a deplorable comment, indeed, but...
Thu May 8, 2025, 01:52 PM
May 2025

...Fetterman has done some things recently that make me question his mental health, his loyalty and whether or not he is compromised. I guess we'll have to wait and see, but removing him may turn out to be a kindness.

sheshe2

(95,837 posts)
5. Someone needs to intervene NOW.
Wed May 7, 2025, 11:04 PM
May 2025

His wife perhaps? His doctors? The man is unwell. If they cared about his well being and the safety of those around him, then they should do something and soon.

He is not my favorite person, however it is very sad to see his decline.

Nixie

(17,937 posts)
8. The video of him arguing with a pilot about using his seatbelt on an
Wed May 7, 2025, 11:33 PM
May 2025

airplane while holding the entire flight up was jaw dropping. He’s lucky he got such a polite pilot. That episode was close to a 5150 hold episode because he could have been dragged off the plane.

I agree that those close to him need to step up more, for everyone’s sake.

sheshe2

(95,837 posts)
11. I saw that as well and I agree that he was lucky there.
Thu May 8, 2025, 12:01 AM
May 2025

I get the mood swings and behavior all caused by the stroke. I also feel for the people in that room, his yelling and slamming his hands on the desk must have been frightening. His size alone is intimidating and the anger, someone is going to get hurt.



Cha

(316,710 posts)
26. Oh I hadn't read about that, Nixie.. Mahalo.
Thu May 8, 2025, 01:41 AM
May 2025
And, he's questioning "why everyone is mad at him and what did I ever do?"

I was just saying upthread that the last article on his Staffers voicing their Concerns.. It had a quote from his wife that basically said that the Staffers were out to get him and trying to bring him down.

So unless she changes that attitude she won't be much help.

Aloha, Nixie! 💙

Nixie

(17,937 posts)
41. Hi Cha! I hadn't seen that article yet. Thx for that. I was seeing
Thu May 8, 2025, 12:27 PM
May 2025

articles that she was getting frustrated with his actions — something about his reckless driving and other behaviors.

If I remember, she took over a lot of his responsibilities when he was in treatment for depression. It is a dicey situation for couples and everyone around them.

Cha

(316,710 posts)
43. Well, Thank You for telling us about
Thu May 8, 2025, 03:53 PM
May 2025

some of her More Realistic Reactions to what is going on with Sen Fetterman..

I hope she is able to get him the Help he needs. Because the Country Needs him to do that.

Aloha, Nixie 💙

Cha

(316,710 posts)
25. Yes, it is sad.. and I'm sorry this is
Thu May 8, 2025, 01:31 AM
May 2025

happening.

However, the last article I read about his Staffers Voicing their Concerns it had a quote from his wife saying something like..

These people are out to get him and they're trying to bring him down.


So if this keeps up I don't think his wife is going to be much help.


JustAnotherGen

(37,554 posts)
29. He needs to be forced out
Thu May 8, 2025, 04:29 AM
May 2025

It can be done. It has been done for things that never happened.

This IS happening. Let Gov Shapiro work with the PA Democratic Committee to select a replacement immediately then hold a special election. I work.for a manufacturer in Bucks County although I live over the border in NJ.

Between Lamb and Kenyatta you have two solid Democrats. Or do the CA thing and select someone who will pledge not to.run - until a special election.

PA actually has a deep Democratic Party bench.

thebigidea

(13,558 posts)
6. Sounds like a guy with depression. Good days and bad days.
Wed May 7, 2025, 11:08 PM
May 2025

This is what depression can look like. It was ok when we wanted the seat and everybody was saying how brave he was to talk about it.

But this is why depression tended to be a career killer in politics in less enlightened times.

Hope he doesn't hurt anybody or himself. That car accident talk was fucking scary, as was talk of not taking his medication.

It's a tough situation. It'll always be there, you gotta deal with the bad days along with the good days.

Ilsa

(63,814 posts)
12. Depression and possibly more.
Thu May 8, 2025, 12:02 AM
May 2025

It sounds like he's losing emotional inhibition and becoming irrational. I see the airplane seatbelt story as him being antisocial, detesting authority. His executive brain functions are off-kilter.

fujiyamasan

(1,223 posts)
21. Maybe bipolar?
Thu May 8, 2025, 12:57 AM
May 2025

Not sure, but yes that car accident was pretty bad and could have been much worse. The plane incident also made him looked entitled and totally out there. He sounds like he’s at risk of hurting himself or someone else.

Cha

(316,710 posts)
27. I was thinking perhaps Bi-polar, too..
Thu May 8, 2025, 02:18 AM
May 2025

From what I've known from loved ones I've been around.

I didn't know about the car accident and just looked it up. Not Good!

He should not be driving at high speeds. They were all lucky.

LudwigPastorius

(14,152 posts)
7. His remaining staff members can't cover up for him forever.
Wed May 7, 2025, 11:11 PM
May 2025

There's bound to be a meltdown on camera at some point.

They need to do what's best for him, not prop up an ill man for their own benefit.

mwmisses4289

(3,213 posts)
10. Hmmm...didn't he have a stroke about
Wed May 7, 2025, 11:38 PM
May 2025

six months after he got elected? Wonder if the stroke did more damage than was originally thought?

krkaufman

(13,957 posts)
19. Stroke was before the election.
Thu May 8, 2025, 12:40 AM
May 2025

6 week stay at a clinic for depression was after he was sworn-in.

JustAnotherGen

(37,554 posts)
31. My dad had a massive stroke
Thu May 8, 2025, 04:38 AM
May 2025

When he was 58. Walked out of the hospital (miracle patient) six weeks later. Went back to work for a few months then retired.

His personality changed with very *dark spells*. He could see it. Not being in a high press mergers/acq roles helped his brain heal.completely.

Strokes are brain injuries. I don't believe he's fully healed.

A year after retiring my dad started a consultant business which allowed him to pick and choose which distressed companies he would like to help, and that he could a few months to then go fishing every day.

Fetterman needs to rest. He needs to heal so he can be there for his children. He can't think straight.

Not a psychologist or psychiatrist or doctor of any kind . .. . just saw it first hand.

I really FEEL for him. He's locked in a brain injury.

róisín_dubh

(12,229 posts)
14. Good lord he needs to step down
Thu May 8, 2025, 12:05 AM
May 2025

My sister and brother in law were (key word) huge Fetterman supporters. They cannot wait to be rid of him now.
Let Shapiro put Conor Lamb in to finish out Fetterman’s term

Meowmee

(9,212 posts)
15. I find it odd that cnn had an entire panel discussing this( F's mental state etc.)
Thu May 8, 2025, 12:12 AM
May 2025

Yet none for the orange psychopath... unbelievable.

Quiet Em

(2,533 posts)
17. Yeah, there is something off here.
Thu May 8, 2025, 12:22 AM
May 2025

I'm not a fan, I don't like many of the comments he has made or his normalizing of the con artist, but he's not up for re-election until 29. He's not my Senator, he's not a major voice of the Democratic Party and all these leaks, discussions and elevation of him to a major topic seems quite strange.

markodochartaigh

(5,015 posts)
20. I would find it much more bizarre if
Thu May 8, 2025, 12:55 AM
May 2025

mainstream media treated a Republican like they treat Democratic politicians. In today's media it isn't what a politician does, it is what side of the aisle they are on.

Cha

(316,710 posts)
28. I know... It freaking Sucks. Whatever happened
Thu May 8, 2025, 02:22 AM
May 2025

to "media Both Sides" in that Case?

Bread and Circuses

(1,549 posts)
30. I never liked the hoodie wearing senator
Thu May 8, 2025, 04:32 AM
May 2025

I didn’t trust him and I thought that he was hoodwinking everyone…. Hoodwinking everyone with his
‘Everyman persona’.

Now, we’re finding out that he may have serious mental health issues . I suspect these problems were swept away when he was a candidate.

I hope that he receives appropriate medical care which is needed ASAP. He needs to resign.

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
32. Many people tried to warn everyone. I didn't expect THIS particular scenario or outcome *
Thu May 8, 2025, 04:54 AM
May 2025

* but I knew all along that it would not end well.

BeerBarrelPolka

(2,173 posts)
33. I suffered a stroke recently
Thu May 8, 2025, 05:02 AM
May 2025

I suffered a serious stroke along with other things, about a year and a half ago. There are some misconceptions that have been posted in the past on here, but in essence a stroke can change certain things in you. For example with me, I can no longer handle any sort of stressful situations. And by stress it could be the absolute simplest of things.

I don't think everything happening can be blamed on the stroke with Fetterman, as is the same with me.

BeerBarrelPolka

(2,173 posts)
36. Right
Thu May 8, 2025, 06:55 AM
May 2025

And I for one as a stroke victim, take HUGE offense to people who casually write off what's he's doing as a result of a stroke. It paints all stroke victims with a broad brush. Fetterman has issues that predate and supersede stroke.

Exp

(752 posts)
37. How sad. People close to him must have seen this coming. Hopefully he will resign willingly. nt
Thu May 8, 2025, 11:48 AM
May 2025

senseandsensibility

(24,240 posts)
44. The staffer was comforted by the teachers
Thu May 8, 2025, 04:09 PM
May 2025

Sounds about right knowing teachers as I do. I wonder if he is turning against teachers' unions in his swing to the right. Wouldn't be a wise move, but the article makes it sound like it's more of an emotional issue than an issue related one.

BigDemVoter

(4,676 posts)
45. Strokes can certainly affect one's personality depending on where stroke occurred in the brain.
Thu May 8, 2025, 05:32 PM
May 2025

It looks like Fetterman has really changed from how he was before. I wonder if the stroke can explain his behavior?

Xolodno

(7,313 posts)
46. No one ever wants to get out of the way.
Thu May 8, 2025, 06:20 PM
May 2025

They always think they can still push through and can do better.

However, sometimes, you have to sit down and take stock of things and ask yourself if its even worth it anymore. Let others make the mistakes and lessons learned, even though you know you wouldn't make those. But you can make new ones without realizing it.

Iggo

(49,646 posts)
49. Oh.
Thu May 8, 2025, 08:08 PM
May 2025

Well…on the one hand, I hope he gets the help he needs.

On the other hand, I care about him about as much as he cares about me.

ananda

(34,391 posts)
50. He's not the same person he was before his stroke.
Thu May 8, 2025, 08:09 PM
May 2025

I think that stroke really affected him.

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,179 posts)
53. So where are all the staffers, etc.
Thu May 8, 2025, 10:53 PM
May 2025

people who have been "briefed," and others speaking on the condition of anonymity, about MAGAts in Congress? The bloated orange anus face?

Why are all the stories about Democrats?

For that matter, why insist upon anonymity? Come out with it, and come clean. Anybody can say anything anonymously.

JanMichael

(25,725 posts)
56. I hope this gets under control soon
Fri May 9, 2025, 05:46 AM
May 2025

Or the next story might be national news. He's a big dude and if he goes bonkers he can do a lot of damage before he gases out.

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