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Botany

(76,398 posts)
Thu May 8, 2025, 09:03 AM May 2025

On how to stop the India vs Pakistan conflict right now.

Last edited Thu May 8, 2025, 10:42 AM - Edit history (1)

We promise both sides if they agree to a cease fire and negotiations we
will not send Marco Rubio. Anthony Blinken or John Kerry, or Hillary Clinton
he is not.

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Botany

(76,398 posts)
3. Real diplomacy is done by adults, in private, and with respect.
Thu May 8, 2025, 09:22 AM
May 2025

Rubio yaps in public about positions that are adversarial to other parties.


Btw a President Harris with a Sec. of State would have gotten shit done.

See Sec. Kerry and Sec. Ernie Moniz and the treaty that kept Iran from
ever getting a nuclear weapon… done by adults … the one which Krasnov broke.

Walleye

(43,818 posts)
4. They haven't the first idea of how diplomacy works. Work is the operative word. You don't just throw out catchphrases
Thu May 8, 2025, 09:26 AM
May 2025

Real negotiation is difficult and requires thorough knowledge of the subject. Trump just thinks bullying is what negotiation is because he’s never had to do it any other way if India and Pakistan get into a nuclear war, it’s his fault.

Botany

(76,398 posts)
5. A perfect example is the work that George Mitchell did in order to get peace in Northern Ireland
Thu May 8, 2025, 10:40 AM
May 2025

He did much of it in private but he did get the Protestants of N. Ireland to stop their
Orange Day parade where they would go through Catholic neighborhoods to rub the
Catholics’ noses in a battle that gave England control over Ireland in 1690.

muriel_volestrangler

(105,562 posts)
2. Vance. He's the kiss of death.
Thu May 8, 2025, 09:20 AM
May 2025

Allow him in the Trump-Zelensky meeting, and he trashes it. He meets with Pope Francis, and he dies. From there, he visits India, and then there's a terrorist attack there that develops into border warfare with Pakistan.

WarGamer

(18,249 posts)
6. My only suggstion is to NOT send weapons into the region and pick a side.
Thu May 8, 2025, 10:41 AM
May 2025

That would be SMART.

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