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Peacetrain

(24,279 posts)
Thu May 8, 2025, 09:51 AM May 2025

Does anyone of a certain age.. over 70 say .. remember government cheese

Is this what Trump is trying to go back to with his 32 pounds of food monthly for seniors instead of the ability to buy their foods at the store?? These MAHA boxes.. next stop.. sod shanties for poor seniors??


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-maha-food-box-replace-csfp-low-income-seniors/

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Does anyone of a certain age.. over 70 say .. remember government cheese (Original Post) Peacetrain May 2025 OP
Trying to imagine what it would be like if this suggestion came from a Democratic administration Walleye May 2025 #1
I know, I know... everyday I am just that much more flabbergasted Peacetrain May 2025 #2
They accuse us of having a "nanny State". If this isn't that I don't know what is. Walleye May 2025 #3
You know the food boxes will be either Diamond_Dog May 2025 #4
Or contaminated with pathogens or heavy metals SheltieLover May 2025 #6
Probably all of the above. trmp's buddies and contaminated. erronis May 2025 #19
Probably so! SheltieLover May 2025 #20
Will we get the food out of the dumpster at Mar-a-Lago? Walleye May 2025 #23
"I'm from the government, I'm here to help" Peacetrain May 2025 #5
I don't think we need to imagine, considering all the foam over Michelle Obama's vegetable garden JHB May 2025 #52
It's just stupid. Put out by people who don't live in a reality. Srkdqltr May 2025 #7
You don't have to be 70 to remember it. Xavier Breath May 2025 #8
Reagan and ketchup get the red out May 2025 #12
My paternal great-grandfather had zero use for any Republican. Xavier Breath May 2025 #25
My maternal grandmother likewise Jilly_in_VA May 2025 #53
Saint Fucking Ronnie bif May 2025 #28
I'm just a month shy of 60 and I remember it vividly Wiz Imp May 2025 #16
Have YOU had your 5 pounds of cheese today? usonian May 2025 #9
IIRC,they also included a large tin of peanut butter. BattleRow May 2025 #48
I am laughing my butt off thinking how Trump is stepping in with social programs to send Baitball Blogger May 2025 #10
I am 60 get the red out May 2025 #11
Remember hearing about it EverHopeful May 2025 #13
Maybe Grandma and Grandpa will have to come out to the farm Ocelot II May 2025 #18
My Grandpa and Dad owned a farm. Even after they sold it we lived in a self reliant True Blue American May 2025 #36
It's fine if you live on a farm. Ocelot II May 2025 #39
We did not live on a farm. True Blue American May 2025 #43
You don't have to be that old . . . Ms. Toad May 2025 #14
And who's going to harvest all this fresh produce Ocelot II May 2025 #17
Hey watch it! bif May 2025 #31
Sorry! Ocelot II May 2025 #38
Just kidding. bif May 2025 #42
Considering that RFKJR is in charge, we can assume the protein component Ocelot II May 2025 #15
I remember powdered milk too onethatcares May 2025 #21
Yeah, I remember the senior citizens club Conjuay May 2025 #22
Probably Timewas May 2025 #24
Government cheese? Yes indeedy! democrank May 2025 #26
I remember it clearly. True Blue American May 2025 #27
Yes.. LiberalArkie May 2025 #29
Commodities Maninacan May 2025 #30
32 pounds a month? WOWWWWW. Such bounty. A whole pound of "food" niyad May 2025 #32
A friend's parents used to deliver it to seniors bif May 2025 #33
Well atreides1 May 2025 #34
I remember my father kacekwl May 2025 #35
We loved it. It was the best American cheese I've ever had. Greybnk48 May 2025 #37
Gubment cheese, Baby! Brother Buzz May 2025 #40
THAT was some good-ass cheese! Montauk6 May 2025 #41
It sure fucking was orangecrush May 2025 #49
I'm not over 70 however I remember it, but somebody cut the cheese Uncle Joe May 2025 #44
Soup lines Iamscrewed May 2025 #45
I remember homegirl May 2025 #46
But...but... LudwigPastorius May 2025 #47
He wants to kill SNAP benefits orangecrush May 2025 #50
Oh heck yeah Jilly_in_VA May 2025 #51
Yup. USDA food boxes that contained cheese and other basics Wicked Blue May 2025 #54
"...herring boxes without topses sandals were for Clementine." dchill May 2025 #55
Yes. I stood in the line with my mother and brother for the box. If I remember correctly, it LoisB May 2025 #56
Yes and we were both so busy working minimum wage jobs at the time.. Tikki May 2025 #57
Grocery industry lobbyists will oppose this, stores make money from food stamps. sop May 2025 #58
Yes! A friend of mine in college got it Wednesdays May 2025 #59
You don't have to be old. Government surplus food distribution was going on right up until 1/20/2025 TygrBright May 2025 #60
I was away at college but my parents got it, it was good! joanbarnes May 2025 #61

Walleye

(43,807 posts)
1. Trying to imagine what it would be like if this suggestion came from a Democratic administration
Thu May 8, 2025, 09:54 AM
May 2025

Diamond_Dog

(39,759 posts)
4. You know the food boxes will be either
Thu May 8, 2025, 09:59 AM
May 2025

leftovers close to their expiration date or products from one of Trump’s CEO buddies’ companies.

Peacetrain

(24,279 posts)
5. "I'm from the government, I'm here to help"
Thu May 8, 2025, 10:02 AM
May 2025

"why do you need those nasty old social security cards that people can steal your number.. we will give you 32 pounds of food every month.. and you can live by the rail road tracks and listen to the trains rolling by.. it will help you sleep and you will not need that nasty old TV that has news programs on it that bother you..."

Somehow that scenario is playing through my head..

JHB

(37,947 posts)
52. I don't think we need to imagine, considering all the foam over Michelle Obama's vegetable garden
Thu May 8, 2025, 12:09 PM
May 2025

And that was just suggestions, not policy.

Srkdqltr

(9,358 posts)
7. It's just stupid. Put out by people who don't live in a reality.
Thu May 8, 2025, 10:06 AM
May 2025

Like everything they do there is no real plan. Stupid people.

Xavier Breath

(6,471 posts)
8. You don't have to be 70 to remember it.
Thu May 8, 2025, 10:09 AM
May 2025

I'm 58 and remember my Mom brining some home. It was passable, if memory serves. Couple it with Reagan's newest vegetable, ketchup, and you had two of the four food groups covered!

Xavier Breath

(6,471 posts)
25. My paternal great-grandfather had zero use for any Republican.
Thu May 8, 2025, 11:20 AM
May 2025

He worked on the railroad and used his salary to provide for his wife and five girls. He never forgave Hoover for the depression and was a staunch Democrat. He spent his final years despising Regan to anyone that would listen. I'm guessing he and your Dad would have gotten along well

Jilly_in_VA

(13,798 posts)
53. My maternal grandmother likewise
Thu May 8, 2025, 12:11 PM
May 2025

She was born in 1885, but whenever he came on TV she would glare at him and say, "You're OLD!"

Wiz Imp

(8,917 posts)
16. I'm just a month shy of 60 and I remember it vividly
Thu May 8, 2025, 10:24 AM
May 2025

I remember my mother picking it up (I don't remember exactly who distributed it). I also remember it was under Reagan when Unemployment was over 10% (almost 11%), Inflation over 10%. and the Prime interest rate over 20%.

Baitball Blogger

(51,697 posts)
10. I am laughing my butt off thinking how Trump is stepping in with social programs to send
Thu May 8, 2025, 10:17 AM
May 2025

crumbs down to the needy while he leverages our public money for his own personal benefit.

get the red out

(13,951 posts)
11. I am 60
Thu May 8, 2025, 10:19 AM
May 2025

But my grandmother got it and would give most to us (my mom was and only child). I loved the stuff.

EverHopeful

(644 posts)
13. Remember hearing about it
Thu May 8, 2025, 10:22 AM
May 2025

Tried and tried but can't imagine any way the current regime could handle the logistics of this new scheme. Perhaps they're trying to figure out how to dispose of the crops farmers can't sell because of his tariff insanity.

My cousin and I often tried to make a $.99 bag of elbow macaroni last until payday with nothing to put on it but never really looked for that government surplus cheese.

It did annoy me, though, when I'd hear people yammering about what a useless idea it was. Clearly they'd never gone days without food waiting for payday (but at least the lights were on and the rent was paid) when a bit of cheese would have been nice.

My favorite story from those days was running out of gas on the way to work on payday. This was before the miracle of direct deposit

True Blue American

(18,579 posts)
36. My Grandpa and Dad owned a farm. Even after they sold it we lived in a self reliant
Thu May 8, 2025, 11:37 AM
May 2025

Farming community where people shared and helped each other.

We never went hungry but when I went out on my own I had a couple of times. I just found another job.
I believe in giving people a had up, not permanent help. That is what welfare became.

Ocelot II

(129,021 posts)
39. It's fine if you live on a farm.
Thu May 8, 2025, 11:46 AM
May 2025

But a lot of elderly people do not live on farms and can't pick their own crops. They might also be unable to even prepare and cook their own food, which is why organizations like Meals on Wheels have been so important. Telling someone who's 85, infirm and housebound in a city apartment, that they should just head out to the farm, pick and cook their own food is just cruel; helping them is not "welfare."

True Blue American

(18,579 posts)
43. We did not live on a farm.
Thu May 8, 2025, 11:56 AM
May 2025

It was sold when I was 4 years old. We made a down payment on a nice house that was one of the mass produced houses Roosevelt had the CCC buid.We had to pay for it. My Dad worked on anything he could. At one time my Mother was doing 7 or 8 washings a week for store owners.
What I said was, People shared if they could from surrounding farms. Both my parents taught me self reliance, but also to help if someone needed a hand.

Do not change my words!

Ms. Toad

(38,240 posts)
14. You don't have to be that old . . .
Thu May 8, 2025, 10:22 AM
May 2025

It's one of the few things where I can pinpoint where I was when something was mentioned - and I was on a road I drove on only from 1978-1989. So I checked my memory and the program ended in the 80s. So people as young as mid-40s may remember it.

But this appears to be magical thinking. Thirty-two lbs of perishable foods directly from farmers would largely end up in landfills. Most fresh food, direct from farmers, would spoil in a week or two - so it would be feast or famine (or more likely feast, dump, starve). Processed food (dried beans, flour, etc.) is shelf-stable, but isn't direct from farmers. And . . . while we're at it . . . direct from farmers (aside from CSAs and farmer's markets) isn't direct from farmers. It would need to be harvested by the farmers, sent to a third party for packaging into the boxes, and delivered by another third party to the intended seniors.

Ocelot II

(129,021 posts)
17. And who's going to harvest all this fresh produce
Thu May 8, 2025, 10:25 AM
May 2025

when the immigrants that do most of the agricultural labor have been deported? It sure won't be Chad and Buffy from Grosse Pointe, home from Bryn Mawr for the summer.

Ocelot II

(129,021 posts)
38. Sorry!
Thu May 8, 2025, 11:40 AM
May 2025

I'd have used my own town of North Oaks as my metaphor for privileged non-crop-picking white college kids (like me, once) - it's just that more people have heard of Grosse Pointe. No offense to Grosse Pointers.

bif

(26,666 posts)
42. Just kidding.
Thu May 8, 2025, 11:56 AM
May 2025

The kids around here are a pretty entitled lot, for the most part. It's amusing to imagine them out in a strawberry patch under the glaring California sun picking fruit!

Ocelot II

(129,021 posts)
15. Considering that RFKJR is in charge, we can assume the protein component
Thu May 8, 2025, 10:23 AM
May 2025

will consist of road-killed raccoons and squirrels. Maybe small bears if in season.

onethatcares

(16,963 posts)
21. I remember powdered milk too
Thu May 8, 2025, 10:31 AM
May 2025

we had two sons, 3 and 7 y/o. they could go through a gallon of milk in a minute.

Conjuay

(2,893 posts)
22. Yeah, I remember the senior citizens club
Thu May 8, 2025, 10:33 AM
May 2025

Giving their members a 10or 12 pound cheese.
I can't imagine how long it took for a single person to consume an entire block of cheese.

Timewas

(2,639 posts)
24. Probably
Thu May 8, 2025, 11:16 AM
May 2025

Most likely they will have to pick the boxes up and the pickup points will be 40-50 miles away fro many of them

democrank

(12,125 posts)
26. Government cheese? Yes indeedy!
Thu May 8, 2025, 11:24 AM
May 2025

We received a box a month via our town’s “Overseer of the Poor” along with some lard, a can of cocoa powder and some dried milk. On a special month we also received a tiny canned ham.

We thought we had hit the jackpot.

True Blue American

(18,579 posts)
27. I remember it clearly.
Thu May 8, 2025, 11:27 AM
May 2025

My Mother would not have anything to do with Government surplus. My Dad’s Half brother, adopted into the big family was thrilled to death with flour, butter and cheese. He brought some flour out to our house. My Mother pitched it saying it was gray and refused to use it. Anything free was great for him.

I think that is where my life long disdain of welfare came from.🥴 and I had a couple of times being hungry.

Maninacan

(215 posts)
30. Commodities
Thu May 8, 2025, 11:29 AM
May 2025

My cheap ass brother in law and my sister drove 100 miles and spent all day to get some canned peanut butter and cheese 1n 1974.

niyad

(129,517 posts)
32. 32 pounds a month? WOWWWWW. Such bounty. A whole pound of "food"
Thu May 8, 2025, 11:30 AM
May 2025

a day. A tomato, a grapefruit, and a carrot.

bif

(26,666 posts)
33. A friend's parents used to deliver it to seniors
Thu May 8, 2025, 11:32 AM
May 2025

And one of their perks was they got to keep the cheese they couldn't deliver. We had a hunk of it in our fridge for months and months. I must say, the stuff never got moldy!

atreides1

(16,799 posts)
34. Well
Thu May 8, 2025, 11:36 AM
May 2025

I'm 66 and I remember getting food assistance when I was in the military, to include government cheese!

kacekwl

(8,866 posts)
35. I remember my father
Thu May 8, 2025, 11:36 AM
May 2025

brought some home when he was on strike for over a year. Don't remember if I ate any or how it tasted.

Greybnk48

(10,664 posts)
37. We loved it. It was the best American cheese I've ever had.
Thu May 8, 2025, 11:39 AM
May 2025

An elderly relative of mine, at the time, was loaded. His grandson and I were were struggling to get along, as he had just gotten out of the military and was working odd jobs and going to school. He would drive to the neighboring town and get his cheese allotment for us, and we really appreciated it!

Brother Buzz

(39,564 posts)
40. Gubment cheese, Baby!
Thu May 8, 2025, 11:52 AM
May 2025

Boy howdy, it was bashed ten was to Tuesday, but I will volunteer it makes a most excellent dormitory grilled cheese sandwich if you set the iron to "cotton".

Uncle Joe

(64,212 posts)
44. I'm not over 70 however I remember it, but somebody cut the cheese
Thu May 8, 2025, 11:56 AM
May 2025


Thanks for the thread Peacetrain

homegirl

(1,924 posts)
46. I remember
Thu May 8, 2025, 11:57 AM
May 2025

large bricks of cheese being distributed from the back of a truck in a low income neighborhood in San Francisco.

The U.S. government has had warehouses full of cheese, butter and turkeys for decades. My husband had an aversion to turkey due to being served so much of it during the Korean War!

orangecrush

(28,282 posts)
50. He wants to kill SNAP benefits
Thu May 8, 2025, 12:05 PM
May 2025

Obviously.

Any senior who voted for this scum will get exactly what they voted for.

Jilly_in_VA

(13,798 posts)
51. Oh heck yeah
Thu May 8, 2025, 12:08 PM
May 2025

We didn't get it, but our downstairs neighbor did. We were all struggling, even though my late ex was gainfully employed. She shared hers with us because there was no way she and her two toddlers could eat the whole block. it was GOOD!

Wicked Blue

(8,439 posts)
54. Yup. USDA food boxes that contained cheese and other basics
Thu May 8, 2025, 12:11 PM
May 2025

including big bags of prunes.

One time I tried making prune bread. Shared it with co-workers, and you can imagine the results.

LoisB

(12,355 posts)
56. Yes. I stood in the line with my mother and brother for the box. If I remember correctly, it
Thu May 8, 2025, 12:18 PM
May 2025

contained cheese, powdered milk, peanut butter, bread...

Tikki

(15,030 posts)
57. Yes and we were both so busy working minimum wage jobs at the time..
Thu May 8, 2025, 12:20 PM
May 2025

but still found a way to take advantage of the free Government cheese.

Maybe Cheese sandwiches or Mac-and-Cheese.

Ah, the ‘70’s..somehow we survived and we are now in our 70’s.

The Tikkis

sop

(17,400 posts)
58. Grocery industry lobbyists will oppose this, stores make money from food stamps.
Thu May 8, 2025, 12:21 PM
May 2025

Since Trump has such a problem with food stamps, maybe just start calling them "food vouchers."

Wednesdays

(21,577 posts)
59. Yes! A friend of mine in college got it
Thu May 8, 2025, 12:44 PM
May 2025

Circa 1982. He was epileptic and so qualified to receive them, and he gave me a brick of it once. That cheese made the absolutely best grilled cheese sandwiches.

I kinda doubt anything coming from TSF's government will be anything of quality.

TygrBright

(21,297 posts)
60. You don't have to be old. Government surplus food distribution was going on right up until 1/20/2025
Thu May 8, 2025, 12:55 PM
May 2025

The government has always purchased a wide variety of agricultural products from U.S. farmers, for a whole array of purposes, from feeding the military to stabilizing agricultural prices (to support farmers) to retaining stocks of key foodstuffs for disaster remediation.

In addition to those, over the years surplus food has been part of school lunch programs, foreign aid programs, and direct distribution to low-income Americans via several different programs and processes.

The system worked surprisingly well to meet its major goals of stabilizing ag prices and having key stocks available and usable. The "usable" issue provided the impetus for creating programs where food with shorter-term stock limits could be readily distributed while still in good condition for use and consumption.

It was quite an effective, efficient system, well-conceptualized, constantly improved, and well-maintained. It benefited not just millions of individual Americans and families through agricultural price support and direct distributions, but other institutions such as schools, the military, US AID, etc., creating a highly cost-effective synergy.

All hosed now, of course.

Dumb fuckers.

wearily,
Bright

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