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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWho TF is Scott Galloway???
Asking with an open mind.
I walked by the TV which was on and he was being interviewed by Nicolle Wallace (I finally spelled her name right). I heard him talk about all of this crisis among white men and how the DNC website lists demographics in its fold which EXCLUDES 24% of the population, presumably all the white men in crisis. It sounded completely unscientific to me. Not having checked the DNC website, I have to work on the assumption that some of the 76% the DNC considers its base are white men. Some white men are disabled. Some white men are low wage earners. Some white men are single parents. Some white men want affordable education. And so on.
This Galloway person went on to imply that Vice President Harris didn't speak to "white men." I saw more white men identifying as such coming out in support for Harris in '24 then I've seen for any other Democratic candidate in the past. In fact Harris' message was for people who wanted education, middle class tax relief, job opportunities, and trade relationships with other countries. I'm guessing Galloway only seemed to hear Harris address "black issues" which is disqualifying flaw with his ears. Yet hear he was on Nicolle spewing his radically skewed interpretation of the Democratic message.
He brought attention to the young white men that feel alienated, but young white men aren't the only group among youth who feel alienated. And last I checked, white men are still doing pretty well in comparison to other groups. All my superiors at all my jobs are white and mostly men, and mostly really good people.
I certainly don't doubt that there may be more white men who face a less sure future than before. But that's not the fault of Democrats. It's the fault of those who feel like they're in crisis who continue to vote for people who defund education and training, remove regulation, prioritize the wealthy and do everything people like Pope Leo are against (had to get that in there).
To all the people who blame Democrats for white cultural voting patterns, FUCK YOU!
malaise
(294,072 posts)That was a superb interview
marble falls
(71,386 posts)... and their fear is at the wrong target. Employers use that fear to keep wages down.
2naSalit
(100,904 posts)And I agree with the OP. Mr. Galloway often gets y attention with his lead in but in the middle he sounds like he's whining about those white boys who don't know how privileged they are compared to the opportunities and success of other groups. I have never sat through an entire interview or presentation of his that didn't have my interest at the start and leave me pissed off at him by the end. I think he's a misogynist and can't admit it.
hlthe2b
(113,168 posts)I likewise believe it is not appropriate to point to that as the automatic reason we have incel culture, while simultaneously diminishing or, in fact, ignoring the historical inequities toward women that have to this day not been addressed (and in fact have worsened) in the guise of making young white men feel better about themselves.
That, plus pointing the fingers at the big bad Democrats who have "ignored young white men" or "made them feel bad about themselves," seemed to be the point of his entire interview.
Yes, I think he is a raging misogynist. I can say that while likewise not feeling a lack of compassion for any age group, race, ethnicity or gender experiencing hopelessness to the point of increased suicide rates. But, yes, I think he (Galloway) is totally indifferent to women, but apparently, for him to do otherwise would not sell the countless books he has over the years.
Oh, and I too saw the entire interview with the bits that seemed noncontroversial and the larger parts that seemed otherwise. I was left wondering who talked Nicole into that interview. Not an Andrew Tate, mind you, but not exactly a fully enlightened man either.
2naSalit
(100,904 posts)BaronChocula
(4,170 posts)before a commercial break. I wanted to get back to my desk and work, but this was on my mind.
I would guess that what I heard does not encapsulate all he believes, but if he's doggin' Kamala Harris for "not speaking to white men," I think he's got a major flaw I see in many other folks.
Democrats are better at handling the economy. Democrats are better at handling foreign policy. Meanwhile republicans get all the credit while failing everybody (except the rich) and it's for one simple reason. There is a voting plurality who are more comfortable giving power to greedy white men. It's an American tradition. That's the problem. Not Kamala Harris.
Mz Pip
(28,381 posts)I dont think its misogynistic to dig into the reasons.
BaronChocula
(4,170 posts)I wouldn't call it philogyny to blame Kamala Harris for the obstinate racism of some white guys.
I think it's that simple. Every campaign run by the rapist was shrouded in chaos and failure yet he won more votes with each successive run.
No one had an issue with the Harris campaign when things looked good. When she lost "experts" concocted stories of where the campaign failed.
The failure was in a large enough group of voters whose bias persuaded them to vote against their interest. And as I tell people, you can't out-message bias, especially not just in one presidential campaign.
Irish_Dem
(80,392 posts)Listen to the entire clip.
TommyT139
(2,232 posts)His point about mothers was, I think, especially astute.
As to who he is -- he's a guy raised by a single immigrant mother (as he just said) who is now a multi millionaire and a professor of business marketing at NYU.
He never said it was the fault if Democrats, but as a marketer, is pointing out gaps. Telling the hard truths should never be seen as anti-Democratic, I think. If they apply, they apply; if they don't resonate, one can choose move on to the next useful insight.
Skittles
(170,177 posts)BaronChocula
(4,170 posts)That's what I meant. Editing now. Thx.
Skittles
(170,177 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)Ars Longa
(495 posts)Real National discussion....
A real Dem Party discussion....
and a real DU discussion....
hlthe2b
(113,168 posts)races, ages, and ethnicities. I am also alarmed at the increase in suicide rates--just as I am the rise in those among the elderly of both genders. But the failure to make the issues of young (generally white) men/boys issues first and foremost ALWAYS (as has been the case since this nation was conceived), but even momentarily look at inequities--i.e., DEI-- is blamed for EVERYTHING, (including violent INCEL culture) and all is blamed on Democrats, I'm disgusted and not fooled. Does it deserve civil and calm discussion? Yes. But, not once did he mention any wider picture. Not once. Not once.
Nice tactic, Mr. Galloway:
Before you jump down my throat, he said many things that I don't quibble with--many things that I absolutely agree with. Good authors and TED speakers always do. It works well to make the audience fully receptive to the guy because he sounds so normal and makes so many good points. At that point, what he DOESN'T comment about is lost. Maybe give THAT some thought as well.
And, no, I don't blame Nicole for having him on. I do hope others are more skeptical of this guy, though.
JoseBalow
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BaronChocula
(4,170 posts)Check the thread.
But fun GIG. Oops I mean GIF.