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elleng

(141,926 posts)
Thu May 8, 2025, 09:38 PM May 2025

President Donald Trump abruptly fired Librarian of Congress Carla Hayden on Thursday as the White House continues

to purge the federal government of those perceived to oppose the president and his agenda.

https://www.aol.com/president-donald-trump-fires-librarian-011948843.html

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President Donald Trump abruptly fired Librarian of Congress Carla Hayden on Thursday as the White House continues (Original Post) elleng May 2025 OP
Opened the link and surprise, a black woman fired by Trump newdeal2 May 2025 #1
+1 dalton99a May 2025 #3
I'm sure he has another drunken or druggie friend or two tavernier May 2025 #2
The Librarian of Congress isn't chosen by Congress ?? eppur_se_muova May 2025 #4
It's a question. Igel May 2025 #5
His agenda is evil and it must be opposed! Initech May 2025 #6

newdeal2

(4,775 posts)
1. Opened the link and surprise, a black woman fired by Trump
Thu May 8, 2025, 09:44 PM
May 2025

In case it wasn’t obvious, here’s what the MAGA instigators said:

“It’s time to get her OUT and hire a new guy for the job!"

tavernier

(14,266 posts)
2. I'm sure he has another drunken or druggie friend or two
Thu May 8, 2025, 09:45 PM
May 2025

who could use a job. The more stoned they are the easier they can be manipulated. Kennedy and Piro, prime examples.

eppur_se_muova

(40,966 posts)
4. The Librarian of Congress isn't chosen by Congress ??
Thu May 8, 2025, 10:26 PM
May 2025

Does Anus Orange have any authority to fire someone from that position ?

§136–1. Appointment and term of service of Librarian of Congress
(a) In general
The President shall appoint the Librarian of Congress, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate.

(b) Term of service
The Librarian of Congress shall be appointed for a term of 10 years.

(c) Reappointment
An individual appointed to the position of Librarian of Congress, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, may be reappointed to that position in accordance with subsections (a) and (b).

(d) Effective date
This section shall apply with respect to appointments made on or after November 5, 2015.

( Pub. L. 114–86, §2, Nov. 5, 2015, 129 Stat. 675 .)

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-prelim-title2-section136-1&num=0&edition=prelim

Igel

(37,359 posts)
5. It's a question.
Thu May 8, 2025, 11:49 PM
May 2025

And Trump is pushing it to SCOTUS. Hard and fast.

SCOTUS has been less bumblebee and more gnat. Duck like a bumblebee and sting like something that doesn't want to engage.

If executive authority is invested in the President, what does that mean? Some? 18.3%? 50%? 91.9%? 100%?

If 100%, does that mean the ability to hire means the ability to fire? Oh, wait, I've heard claims that's been adjudicated.

Given that Congress has powers far broader than those that wrote the Constitution ever intended, how to apportion those powers? Some are judicial, some intrude on states, some are executive. But if Congress establishes an executive power with a subservient judicial portion ... Is that Article I, II, III ... I know, it's Article Ii, i imaginary.

Yeah, complex plane and all that.

Dunno. I can preach and pontificate ... But asked, way back when, if I wanted to be a minister my response was "hell, no!" I'll preach Newton, Maxwell, de Broglie, Feynman, quantum indeterminacy/entanglement and Hubble tension and soul = meat ... and even LRDs ... But not this.

As for SCOTUS, in the past the attitude was that SCOTUS = what the law is.

Flip red/blue, don't wanna say, "They say what the law is, as long as I agree." Not, at least, examining--closely, over days, without outside preaching--what their reasoning is. Now, if only MSM would say "reasoning" and not "results."

I like process, not results. Fix the process if you don't like the results; don't trash the process, if reasoned and reasonable, if the results suck.

Initech

(107,423 posts)
6. His agenda is evil and it must be opposed!
Thu May 8, 2025, 11:57 PM
May 2025

I'd rather just fire him instead, nothing of value would be lost there!

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