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applegrove

(130,314 posts)
Sun May 11, 2025, 04:07 PM May 2025

Why do we keep blaming other countries for "stealing" our jobs... when it was greedy American billionaires who sold them

BeSeriousUSA 🐝 (@beserioususa.bsky.social) 2025-05-11T17:53:02.984Z


The Quiet Uprising:

Why do we keep blaming other countries for “stealing” our jobs…
when it was greedy American billionaires who sold them overseas for a quick buck?

They didn’t get stolen — they got outsourced.
Not by China. Not by Mexico.
By CEOs who chose profit over people.
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Why do we keep blaming other countries for "stealing" our jobs... when it was greedy American billionaires who sold them (Original Post) applegrove May 2025 OP
All paths lead back to American greed. Irish_Dem May 2025 #1
Correction, if I may.. whathehell May 2025 #2
Wasn't it Ross Perot DENVERPOPS May 2025 #36
Obama and Clinton tried to negotiate better trade agreements, they were bashed by certain Dems, giving us trump 1. Silent Type May 2025 #3
Yeah like Obama's proposed Trans Pacific Partnership IronLionZion May 2025 #25
You are absolutely right angryxyouth May 2025 #27
Exactly. And one of our Senators flat ass lied that the agreement was going to be hidden from public for 5 years, Silent Type May 2025 #30
I've been saying this for years. LoisB May 2025 #4
re: greed TnDem May 2025 #5
Yes DENVERPOPS May 2025 #37
Mitt Romney did this too. Squaredeal May 2025 #6
yes. It has been this way... always.. Srkdqltr May 2025 #7
"If it can be made in China, it will be made in China. If it can be coded in India, it will be coded in India." dalton99a May 2025 #8
Has the Trump family brought their product manufacturing back to America? Norrrm May 2025 #9
Every accusation is a confession. usonian May 2025 #10
"We Can't Make It Here Anymore" - James McGurty Shipwack May 2025 #11
Great song! Thanks for posting. raccoon May 2025 #28
By the Ceo's in league with the Govt ToxMarz May 2025 #12
The simplest DENVERPOPS May 2025 #38
A business model popularized by GE CEO Jack Welch maspaha May 2025 #13
Who famously said he wished he could float his factories around on a barge looking for the cheapest labor. Hassin Bin Sober May 2025 #18
Most Democrats know the jobs were sent away by a bunch of fat cats who wanted to get fatter Warpy May 2025 #14
Also to escape the environmental markodochartaigh May 2025 #17
Damn straight! They made millions selling out US companies Evolve Dammit May 2025 #15
It was repukes! SheltieLover May 2025 #16
American consumers have enjoyed much lower prices on nearly everything they buy for decades... CaptainTruth May 2025 #19
Focusing on the price of everything,while denying the value of that which is priceless. BattleRow May 2025 #20
But government is the only entity big and powerful enough to curb the overreach of capitalism maspaha May 2025 #21
And keeps moving the goal post. BattleRow May 2025 #22
In my younger years DENVERPOPS May 2025 #39
Made in Japan.. Oops Japans wages went up LiberalArkie May 2025 #23
Just like the greed in riverbendviewgal May 2025 #24
They LIE! Joinfortmill May 2025 #26
Why does this board keep repeating Trump talking points? WSHazel May 2025 #29
+1. Totally agree 3 is the most important. No way I support screwing poor people worldwide through America First Silent Type May 2025 #31
This is why Libertarianism doesn't work in practice Ruby the Liberal May 2025 #32
Great question ck4829 May 2025 #33
Unemployment is low, and job creation rate good Johonny May 2025 #34
This! It's Linda ladeewolf May 2025 #41
Because they took er jerbs! LudwigPastorius May 2025 #35
You got it! (n/t) OldBaldy1701E May 2025 #40
I'd say it's some of each. thesquanderer May 2025 #42

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
36. Wasn't it Ross Perot
Mon May 12, 2025, 11:28 AM
May 2025

who predicted a "Giant Sucking Sound" so many years ago..........Perfectly logical given what we were watching.....
And nobody listened......

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
3. Obama and Clinton tried to negotiate better trade agreements, they were bashed by certain Dems, giving us trump 1.
Sun May 11, 2025, 04:18 PM
May 2025

IronLionZion

(50,830 posts)
25. Yeah like Obama's proposed Trans Pacific Partnership
Sun May 11, 2025, 07:00 PM
May 2025

there was blatant disinformation shared frequently right here on DU.

TPP was meant to counter China's influence by organizing with the smaller countries in Asia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Pacific_Partnership

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
30. Exactly. And one of our Senators flat ass lied that the agreement was going to be hidden from public for 5 years,
Sun May 11, 2025, 07:23 PM
May 2025

when laws required the final document to be released and approved by Congress.

Doubt I’ll ever get over that, not to mention mention what 8 years of trump will do to country.

Hope we don’t similarly screw ourselves in midterms.

 

TnDem

(1,390 posts)
5. re: greed
Sun May 11, 2025, 04:28 PM
May 2025

The problem is that there has to be legislation in place such as NAFTA and GATT that allows greed to be fertilized into a massive beanstalk in the first place.

Both parties are to fault allowing this, which is sad on our part.

Squaredeal

(709 posts)
6. Mitt Romney did this too.
Sun May 11, 2025, 04:46 PM
May 2025

Bought Staples, then got China to make cheap products for them, causing their American manufacturers to shut down.

dalton99a

(92,158 posts)
8. "If it can be made in China, it will be made in China. If it can be coded in India, it will be coded in India."
Sun May 11, 2025, 05:00 PM
May 2025

"If an Indian can answer the phone in English, we'll move technical support/customer service to India."



usonian

(23,589 posts)
10. Every accusation is a confession.
Sun May 11, 2025, 05:32 PM
May 2025

Last edited Sun May 11, 2025, 09:05 PM - Edit history (1)

It’s always someone else’s fault.

ToxMarz

(2,758 posts)
12. By the Ceo's in league with the Govt
Sun May 11, 2025, 05:37 PM
May 2025

mostly republicans on this front. The legislature and executive branch need to make the rules of the game conducive to this happening for the businesses to take advantage of it.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
38. The simplest
Mon May 12, 2025, 11:33 AM
May 2025

definition of Fascism is the merger of Government and Corporations......

It is becoming more obvious every day that Corporations and Putin are the ones truly running the Republican Party and Trump

maspaha

(707 posts)
13. A business model popularized by GE CEO Jack Welch
Sun May 11, 2025, 05:47 PM
May 2025

…can’t stand the ba$+@ rd…
…just sayin’

Hassin Bin Sober

(27,388 posts)
18. Who famously said he wished he could float his factories around on a barge looking for the cheapest labor.
Sun May 11, 2025, 06:17 PM
May 2025

All while the cashed billions in government contracts and subsidies.

Warpy

(114,393 posts)
14. Most Democrats know the jobs were sent away by a bunch of fat cats who wanted to get fatter
Sun May 11, 2025, 05:50 PM
May 2025

so instead of upgrading equipment and facilities here, they just built shiny new ones offshore. Instead of continuing to pay the most productive workforce on the planet, they paid a lot less for a less productive workforce plush shipping costs on top ot it, mostly because they hated unions, even if their businesses had never had to deal with a union.

Republicans are the ones pushing the "they stole our jobs" narrative because whipping up hate of the "other" suits their purposes, they talk about punishing other countries with tariffs when it's the US population who will have to shoulder the cost of them.

It's a jorse shit narrative, but we knew that. The problem is that so many hateful Republicans are buying it.

markodochartaigh

(5,041 posts)
17. Also to escape the environmental
Sun May 11, 2025, 06:13 PM
May 2025

and labor regulations in the US that are meant to keep people and our environment safe.

CaptainTruth

(8,048 posts)
19. American consumers have enjoyed much lower prices on nearly everything they buy for decades...
Sun May 11, 2025, 06:26 PM
May 2025

...due to outsourcing.

It's odd that no one ever seems to talk about that.

Insatiable consumer desire for "cheap stuff" will always drive the quest for less expensive manufacturing & create opportunities for businesses (& business owners) who want to capitalize on that desire.

maspaha

(707 posts)
21. But government is the only entity big and powerful enough to curb the overreach of capitalism
Sun May 11, 2025, 06:35 PM
May 2025

…and capitalism has unfairly redrawn the playing field

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
39. In my younger years
Mon May 12, 2025, 11:36 AM
May 2025

Corporations used to be in a race to the top, trying to make the best......now they have been in a race to the bottom..(as in Bottom Line Profitability)

LiberalArkie

(19,320 posts)
23. Made in Japan.. Oops Japans wages went up
Sun May 11, 2025, 06:46 PM
May 2025

Made in Korea. Oops Koreas wages went up
Made in Taiwan. Oops Taiwans wages went up
Made in China. Oops Chinas wages went up
Made in India, Bangladesh, Viet Nam.

WSHazel

(632 posts)
29. Why does this board keep repeating Trump talking points?
Sun May 11, 2025, 07:19 PM
May 2025

Free trade:

1) Creates more American jobs than it loses,
2) Keeps domestic prices low,
3) Makes the world a much more peaceful place. This is the most important.

Free trade DOESN'T:

1) Result in a net loss of American jobs.

Tightly restricted trade is a critical tool for any dictator.

By claiming free trade is bad, we are validating Trump's talking point.

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
31. +1. Totally agree 3 is the most important. No way I support screwing poor people worldwide through America First
Sun May 11, 2025, 07:58 PM
May 2025

on steroids. This is one big world and we are a small part of it.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,603 posts)
32. This is why Libertarianism doesn't work in practice
Mon May 12, 2025, 07:50 AM
May 2025

No one has ever been able to point to a sustained economy under that governing model - at any point in world history - because it isn't functional. Its all about greed and 'whoever dies with the most toys wins'.

And thats why Vance scares me more than Trump. Trump is a man child stomping his feet and demanding fealty as he spends $10s of millions of taxpayer money a month playing golf while blathering about dolls and pencils.

Vance is in the pocket of Peter Thiel and the like who won't be happy until they hoover up the Treasury into their own crypto accounts.

Trump is erratic. That crew is dangerous.

Johonny

(25,493 posts)
34. Unemployment is low, and job creation rate good
Mon May 12, 2025, 10:36 AM
May 2025

So the whole talking point is stupid.

The problem isn't jobs, it is good paying jobs. More to the point, it is the class warfare as the rich keep wages low and gain most of the benefits from labor. People are working, but the benefits of that labor are becoming more and more concentrated in the few. This is a huge problem, the major problem.

Linda ladeewolf

(1,106 posts)
41. This! It's
Mon May 12, 2025, 02:56 PM
May 2025

Very difficult to be struggling with buying food and paying bills and think clearly about anything. I’ve been there. You blame anyone that’s handy. In the end though, it was the bosses who wouldn’t pay fairly unless you were a buddy. And people in charge that cut pay so they can have fat bonuses.

thesquanderer

(12,903 posts)
42. I'd say it's some of each.
Mon May 12, 2025, 02:56 PM
May 2025

Yes, American companies outsourced jobs to countries with cheaper labor. But also, foreign companies themselves have sometimes created better and/or cheaper products, which stole market share from American companies. So there really are two ways we lost jobs to other countries.

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