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moniss

(8,705 posts)
Tue May 20, 2025, 02:10 PM May 2025

Regarding pricing at the stores I have

a story to tell that may not ease the pain but it may be familiar to some and bring a smile from a memory of someone they knew.

Way, way back when the first Mrs. moniss and I started getting serious we were invited for Sunday dinner to her maternal grandparents home. They were a very nice couple in their mid-70's at the time. Big Catholic family with lot's of kids and grandkids. They married after high school graduation as I recall and set up house.

Before we arrived my future wife told me that after dinner I should ask them about their "books". She refused to elaborate and I was nervous enough that it passed out of my mind as I was worried most about not getting food down the front of my shirt. So we hit the front porch and they opened the door and everything was small house nice with a linen tablecloth with a wide crocheted lace border on the dining room table, a small kitchen with yellow plastic tiles above the white base cabinets and the small kitchen table with the formica top and chrome on the sides with the chairs with yellow, flat, thin vinyl on chrome frames. The grandfather clock stood tick-tocking away in the dining room between two small side tables with beautiful crocheted lace doilies. My future wife told me that her grandmother had made the table cloth and doilies. I was so tight inside all I could do was say "Oh".

So on we went through dinner and the food was very good. I did pretty good with no major spills or food falling off my fork and down my shirt. The dishes were cleared and her grandfather and I remained seated at the table. No conversation. He just gazed at me steadily. I didn't start to cry or anything so I must have passed muster. He was in truth a very nice man. But then my future bride and her grandmother came to us with cake for dessert and good coffee made from a coffee maker that looked like it was from the days when electricity was new.

It was then that I got a kick in the leg under the table from my future bride. I was just so relieved the day was almost over and I hadn't screwed up that I didn't get why I had been "nudged". I looked at her and she gave me a look that would in later years be used many times. She mouthed the word "book" and then I blurted out about seeing the "books".

Her grandparents brightened up like I had converted or something and the grandfather went to the basement and came back up with a stack of ledger books. It turns out that from the very first day that they were married whenever they went shopping or paid for something they wrote it down in a ledger with all of the details. About 55 years worth of detailed descriptions with dates, product descriptions, size and pricing along with at which store the purchase was made. I don't remember the price of eggs in 1948 but it was in there. Every week. So we spent the rest of our time looking at pricing from the 1920's and then after WW2 etc. It all was interesting and time flew by and it was time to leave.

I did not understand the meaning I could have taken away from that day. I am only slightly wiser now than I was then. But what was being displayed that day was the lifelong devotion of two people in a marriage, tracking every penny and understanding how to make it through when you are starting from nothing.

So to my long gone German great uncle I now fully know what you meant when you said "Too soon oldt, too late schmart".

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Regarding pricing at the stores I have (Original Post) moniss May 2025 OP
Reminds me of when my uncle died underpants May 2025 #1
Thanks for the memory about the ration book moniss May 2025 #2
A while after my Dad died EverHopeful May 2025 #3
My daughter has my mother's ration coupon book. 3Hotdogs May 2025 #4
Yes indeed I remember moniss May 2025 #6
Office of Price Administration underpants May 2025 #10
I'll give you an even stranger one. At the beginning of the FDR administration, there was an attempt at price 3Hotdogs May 2025 #12
God Story ProfessorGAC May 2025 #5
After the war I worked Codifer May 2025 #7
I knew people who had wads and wads moniss May 2025 #8
Thanks for sharing this tory - I love stories about days gone by. n/t iluvtennis May 2025 #9
Well, we never did that DFW May 2025 #11

underpants

(194,887 posts)
1. Reminds me of when my uncle died
Tue May 20, 2025, 02:17 PM
May 2025

His wife (my mom’s sister) had passed a few years before.

My cousin starting looking through the shoe boxes in the closets. Every receipt for 50 years was in these. In order by date too. He even had his family’s ration book from during WWII.

moniss

(8,705 posts)
2. Thanks for the memory about the ration book
Tue May 20, 2025, 02:20 PM
May 2025

and I remember my paternal grandmother telling me about managing the business of the family, the farm etc. during those times.

EverHopeful

(645 posts)
3. A while after my Dad died
Tue May 20, 2025, 02:31 PM
May 2025

while clearing out closets and drawers, I found boxes of old check registers from their joint accounts. My favorite part of the task was finding validation for a story my Aunt had loved to tell.

Many of the memos on the registers had "N. Y. D. B." According to my Aunt, when my Dad asked what the check was for, my Mom would answer "None of your d**n business."

Guess it worked for them. Never heard them fight about money.

3Hotdogs

(15,032 posts)
4. My daughter has my mother's ration coupon book.
Tue May 20, 2025, 03:46 PM
May 2025

My father was in the Navy (Pacific - Iwo Jima) and I remember my mom taking us on the bus to Newark, N,J. to the O.P.A. (Office of Price Administration.) to get an increase in stamps.

moniss

(8,705 posts)
6. Yes indeed I remember
Tue May 20, 2025, 03:53 PM
May 2025

my grandmother explaining to me about having to figure out needs ahead of time versus what you thought you could get in increases etc.

3Hotdogs

(15,032 posts)
12. I'll give you an even stranger one. At the beginning of the FDR administration, there was an attempt at price
Tue May 20, 2025, 10:29 PM
May 2025

stabilization. - similar to what was tried during the Ford administration. It was probably part of the Works Progress Administration (W.P.A.) One of the first tasks was to categorize jobs. A barber that used to cut my hair was part of a group of barbers that went to Washington to explain their profession..... seriously..... The classification they came up with was, "artisan."

Artisans were not allowed to charge more than .25 for a haircut and so forth. Mr. Masi was in his 90s when he was still working one day a week. - 1960's. His claim to fame was that he had cut Buffalo Bill Cody's hair when Bill's Wild West show was in Newark (NJ).

He would cut a patron's hair and then step back. Approach again and take one or two more snips of the scissors. This would be followed by his exclaiming, "Trifling makes perfection and perfection is no trifle."

Mr. Masi came from Italy and was a tailor. Unfortunately, Italian tailors were not employable. At that time, there were large numbers of Italian immigrants and this caused the usual fear and hostility like we are seeing with Latino immigrants today. A friend told him, since he knew how to use scissors, just become a barber. At the turn of the last century, there was no licensing requirement to be a barber.

ProfessorGAC

(75,852 posts)
5. God Story
Tue May 20, 2025, 03:53 PM
May 2025

I'm glad I read it.
I have a similar future in-laws story, but I won't derail your thread.

Codifer

(1,152 posts)
7. After the war I worked
Tue May 20, 2025, 03:58 PM
May 2025

nights at a gas station (Enco) while in school.

Gas was 19cents a gallon and that was with steak knives and triple Green Stamps (remember those).

Oh, and I pumped the gas (first typo was pimped) washed all the windows and headlights, checked the oil, water and battery levels and adjusted the tire pressure.

Strange days.

Edit to say: The war was Vietnam

moniss

(8,705 posts)
8. I knew people who had wads and wads
Tue May 20, 2025, 04:10 PM
May 2025

of green stamp books all filled up and giant rubber bands around the stacks of them. Cigarette coupons also. Best friend in high school worked at a full service. No store like today. Just a soda machine and a couple of choices of candy bars. The whole inside of the place was maybe 7 foot by 25 foot and part of that 25 was for bathrooms at each end that you entered from the outside with a key. The "office" was more like a broom closet.

One gas island with two pumps. They sold recycled motor oil too. That station was one of the small chains and they gave away water glasses.

DFW

(59,730 posts)
11. Well, we never did that
Tue May 20, 2025, 05:18 PM
May 2025

But my wife's family definitely knew what it meant to start anew from nothing. Everything they had except the four walls of the house they lived in was gone, including the ability to feed themselves. Her mom's family was on the verge of starving, but her dad's family were farmers, and they were able to grow some food and help the family of his new girlfriend (later his wife) survive. He couldn't help much, since he had a leg blown off by an artillery shell at age 18 in the war, but his family could, and he took some courses and went to work for a local bank helping out recovering farmers with loans. Their gratitude was shown at his funeral when four hundred locals came to pay their respects, and show their gratitude for his help when it really counted. My wife's mom found his honest nature more important than his being minus a leg--luckily for me!!

My family, by then all concentrated in the New York area, never experienced that kind of desperation during the war or after it, although my mom's dad was at rock bottom during the Great Depression, earning nickels and dimes by accompanying other people's children to school along with his own daughters. He never lost his wit, which got him a job with a Madison Avenue advertising agency, but that was much later in life. He was the who paraphrased LBJ, wanting to start a "War on Puberty to combat the Copulation Explosion."

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