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Quiet Em

(2,520 posts)
Tue May 20, 2025, 07:09 PM May 2025

Is Trump's base racist? Social scientists begin to weigh in

President Donald Trump’s most ardent supporters are motivated by their prejudices, not economic concerns, social scientists contend. Will Democrats stop trying to win their votes?

During the life of his podcast, California Gov. Gavin Newsom has worried one topic more than others: How can the Democratic Party attract the young men tilting toward President Donald Trump? The query has taken Newsom, an odds-on 2028 presidential contender, into polarizing, even satirized territory, criticizing trans athletes with conservative influencer Charlie Kirk and platforming — rather than challenging — MAGA provocateurs Steve Bannon and Michael Savage.

While a couple of polls — including this month’s Berkeley IGS survey showing a majority of Californians think the governor cares more about a presidential run than his current job — suggest “This Is Gavin Newsom” is hurting its host’s popularity, it probably won’t win over any Trump fans either, says political sociologist David N. Smith.


It goes something like this: Trump’s biggest supporters are motivated by bigotry and want him to hurt the people they dislike.

“A lot of people find it really hard to believe that people would really want what Trump represents,” said Smith, who began researching authoritarianism as a sociology graduate student more than 40 years ago. “My experience is the hard core of people who support Trump election after election is they really mean it. They support him because of what he says and does, not in spite of it.”



https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/trump-authoritarian-voters-20327399.php

For those who are looking for a deep dive into what happened and what is going on, this is it. The cold hard truth.
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Is Trump's base racist? Social scientists begin to weigh in (Original Post) Quiet Em May 2025 OP
Firmly believe at least 80% of trumpsters are racists/bigots. What really is disgusting is Silent Type May 2025 #1
I'm not a Social scientist nor am I any other kind of scientist but I've known all along they were racists and bigots. 2MuchNoise May 2025 #2
Is the Pope kacekwl May 2025 #3
Yeah, not exactly breaking news. krkaufman May 2025 #14
Does a one-legged duck swim in a circle? LudwigPastorius May 2025 #16
Psychologists have found that people vote for cachukis May 2025 #4
They are a whole lot of -ists and -isms all piled into a deplorable basket Hekate May 2025 #5
Bigots, Sexists, Racists, Haters, all of them. Clouds Passing May 2025 #6
Maybe they should investigate if the Pope is Catholic Mysterian May 2025 #7
Ya think...? dlk May 2025 #8
Is trump a convicted felon and an adjudicated rapist? BOSSHOG May 2025 #9
Only Bill Maher thinks they arent racist Johonny May 2025 #10
The dems DENVERPOPS May 2025 #11
I feel like it's not just one single motivating factor. Jedi Guy May 2025 #12
What a silly question. Gimpyknee May 2025 #13
Really good article yliza May 2025 #15
Far too many voters are uninformed, disinformed, disengaged, and/or have a very shallow understanding Martin Eden May 2025 #22
I've known that from the beginning. Aristus May 2025 #17
To paraphrase John Stuart Mill: SCantiGOP May 2025 #18
they're either racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, xenophobic..... Skittles May 2025 #19
It's all of the above LS0999 May 2025 #21
That must depend on who is allowed to define or point out racism. Drum May 2025 #20
K&R UTUSN May 2025 #23
 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
1. Firmly believe at least 80% of trumpsters are racists/bigots. What really is disgusting is
Tue May 20, 2025, 07:17 PM
May 2025

white wingers - despite all their privilege - who believe they are being discriminated against. You know, the ones who were not accepted to Harvard or something.

2MuchNoise

(716 posts)
2. I'm not a Social scientist nor am I any other kind of scientist but I've known all along they were racists and bigots.
Tue May 20, 2025, 07:18 PM
May 2025

It's the racism, stupid.

cachukis

(3,618 posts)
4. Psychologists have found that people vote for
Tue May 20, 2025, 07:37 PM
May 2025

whomever most closely represents their worldview. We all do.
Getting our worldview voters to the polls should be a primary target.
We are not going to separate those whose power comes from their belonging to a cadre until they recognize a failing in that cadre.
Even then, they will blame that failing on others and stick to their guns convinced they made the right choice of allegiance.
It will take a deep reflection of advanced introspection for them to give up the falsehood that gave them their righteousness.
We should spend less energy on that endeavor and work hard to nourish the rest of us.

Hekate

(100,131 posts)
5. They are a whole lot of -ists and -isms all piled into a deplorable basket
Tue May 20, 2025, 07:38 PM
May 2025

I have not believed that shit about economic anxiety being the prime mover since observing my very well-off neighbors hang an unbelievably huge banner off their second story for trump’s first term.

Johonny

(25,298 posts)
10. Only Bill Maher thinks they arent racist
Tue May 20, 2025, 09:23 PM
May 2025

Just look at RW programming. It is a white nationalist message 24/7.



DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
11. The dems
Tue May 20, 2025, 09:24 PM
May 2025

should ALL be going ALL out to forget about the racist Trumphumpers, and concentrate on the getting all the minorities registered to vote, and to vote.......
They also need to get someone great who wants to organize and most importantly be a LEADER of efforts, and tell the dem politicians, who are choosing to sit on the sidelines.......come along or get primaried.

Jedi Guy

(3,399 posts)
12. I feel like it's not just one single motivating factor.
Tue May 20, 2025, 09:38 PM
May 2025

People and their motivations are generally more complex than that. Some, perhaps most, Trump supporters are racist or, at the very least, harbor racial prejudice.

At the same time, they can also have anxiety about the economy. For many of them, they either didn't have the resources or necessary qualities or desire to attend college or university, and now they're being left behind in an increasingly service-driven economy. They may end up having the last laugh as AI more fully integrates itself into the economy. Like an open casket funeral, remains to be seen.

At the end of the day, the takeaway for the Democratic Party should be that even if we address the economic anxiety, it won't matter much. We might pull some of Trump's voters from the GOP, but we won't get enough to matter. We'd have to compromise on values that are integral to who we are.

It just isn't worth it. There's zero sense in giving up who we are and what we value for that kind of measly gain. You don't sell your soul for a bag of Doritos.

yliza

(196 posts)
15. Really good article
Tue May 20, 2025, 09:47 PM
May 2025

Too bad it’s behind a paywall. I have Apple News+ so I was able to read it. Unfortunately I am not able to share it.

What really leapt out for me was the following:

“In my opinion, millions of potential voters stayed away from the polls because they didn’t believe that Democratic centrism represents a genuine and progressive alternative,” he said in a follow-up email. “If that’s true, then trying again — with an even more centrist approach — is a recipe for yet another failure.”


So all the folks who are trying to move the dems back to the center are really not accurately reading the situation. I think a lot of the disappointment people felt with Biden wasn’t because he was too progressive but rather because he wasn’t progressive enough. Or at least that’s how it sounds to me.

Martin Eden

(15,315 posts)
22. Far too many voters are uninformed, disinformed, disengaged, and/or have a very shallow understanding
Wed May 21, 2025, 06:58 AM
May 2025

Of how our government works and how specific policies affect their lives. They know far too little about history and the global political/economic system. They get their views from TV, and increasingly from social media and friends with the same extremely flawed manipulative sources.

If the majority of voters understood how the specific policies of the two parties actually impacted their own economic self interest and well being, the Party of Trump would lose badly at the polls.

A representative democracy succeeds only when the electorate is well informed and engaged.

American voters as a whole fall far short of that mark.

SCantiGOP

(14,647 posts)
18. To paraphrase John Stuart Mill:
Tue May 20, 2025, 09:52 PM
May 2025

Not every MAGA is racist, but all racists are MAGA.

(The original, circa 1860’s, was that not all
Conservatives are necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are Conservative.)

Skittles

(169,263 posts)
19. they're either racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, xenophobic.....
Tue May 20, 2025, 10:01 PM
May 2025

or they are SUPPORTING A PARTY that is all of those things and more

THEY ALL SUCK

LS0999

(278 posts)
21. It's all of the above
Tue May 20, 2025, 11:47 PM
May 2025

This explains how Trump was able to expand his support outside of the traditional Klan base.

Drum

(10,557 posts)
20. That must depend on who is allowed to define or point out racism.
Tue May 20, 2025, 10:36 PM
May 2025

And this administration is fighting mighty hard.

Get up stand up!

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