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PSPS

(15,217 posts)
Tue May 20, 2025, 09:02 PM May 2025

Turns Out, Trump's Qatar Private Jet Wasn't Even a Gift

Turns Out, Trump’s Qatar Private Jet Wasn’t Even a Gift
Donald Trump’s excuses for accepting the luxury plane continue to blow up in his face.
There’s no such thing as a free plane.

Donald Trump’s administration specifically sought out the luxury Boeing 747-8 jumbo jet from Qatar’s government to replace Air Force One, despite the president’s insistence that the plane was a gift, sources informed CNN. A senior White House official told CNN that Trump tasked Steve Witkoff, the president’s special envoy to the Middle East (and shady crypto partner), with tracking down a replacement for Air Force One, after Trump learned that Boeing would not have new jets ready for another two years. Witkoff ended up leading initial conversations with the Qatari government, according to the White House official.

Boeing provided the Pentagon with a list of other clients who might be able to help with America’s search for a new plane, three sources told CNN. One of those sources said that Qatar was included on that list of clients and that the U.S. reached out about purchasing the luxury plane from the Qatari Defense Ministry, which indicated it was willing to sell. There were also discussions about leasing the plane, said another source.

Legal negotiations over the plane’s transfer are still ongoing, and it’s unclear how the plane went from being a potential purchase to a $400 million gift. Trump and his administration have repeatedly stressed that the plane will be free of charge, a gift of goodwill from a foreign government—sparking major backlash on both sides of the aisle over concerns of foreign corruption.

White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt called the potential transfer a “donation to our country” on Monday, but the plane is much more of a personal gift to Trump himself than to the people of the United States, whose tax-paying dollars could end up funding the costly rebuild for the president’s supposedly free gift. Trump reportedly toured a Qatari plane with aides in February and began lamenting how luxurious the plane was compared to his own transportation options. Last week, Trump whined that the current Air Force One is a “much less impressive” plane than the lavish ones dictators use.


From: https://newrepublic.com/post/195484/donald-trump-qatar-jet-not-a-gift
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harumph

(3,112 posts)
1. To me, it sounds like Boeing is covering for Trump.
Tue May 20, 2025, 11:13 PM
May 2025

You know, the company where the doors of its products literally fall off mid flight? The feckless company that
was recently awarded the contract for the next gen navy fighter? This all sounds like a big fat manufactured
story in a lame attempt to take the heat off of Trump.

canetoad

(20,211 posts)
2. What troubles me the most
Tue May 20, 2025, 11:25 PM
May 2025

About this plane business is that trump plainly wants to keep it after his term is finished. Giving it to HIS presidential library is pretty much the same as making it the trump luxury 747.

Then there's the cost to the American people; remove the Qatari fittings and decor, bring it up to Presidential security and safety standards and all that entails - not going to be cheap.

And after all this trump gets his very own AF1 clone? What about the new plane/s on order? What will it cost to back out of the order?

This is not a deal, it's another raid on America's shrinking pockets by the trump mob.

karynnj

(60,779 posts)
3. This makes little sense if you consider it takes a year or so to upgrade
Tue May 20, 2025, 11:32 PM
May 2025

That means Trump uses the existing planes for a year of the two years until the new plane is ready. The mention of leasing is sillier because we would be paying to upgrade all the needed security features ... which I assume contain a lot of highly classified systems. This means we can't return it without paying to take all of that out!

If DOGE was looking for waste and knew of this, they really weren't looking for waste!

DFW

(59,730 posts)
4. The only way this plane is "Gift" is when using the word in German
Wed May 21, 2025, 12:31 AM
May 2025

“Gift” is the German word for “poison.”

DFW

(59,730 posts)
8. Depends on where you put the stress, though!
Thu May 29, 2025, 05:11 PM
May 2025
Giftet means "the poison"

Giftet means "the marriage"

or the other way around, I always forget!

(and never the twain shall meet, or so one hopes, anyway!)

LetMyPeopleVote

(174,948 posts)
5. Trump's Air Force One deal with Qatar not final, despite U.S. claims
Thu May 29, 2025, 08:54 AM
May 2025

The delay reflects lingering concerns about legal liabilities stemming from a White House maneuver to transform what was originally a sale between two countries into a “gift.”

WAPO - Trump’s Air Force One deal with Qatar not final, despite U.S. claims

The delay reflects lingering concerns about legal liabilities stemming from a White House maneuver to transform what was originally a sale between two countries into a “gift.”

Lola Gayle (@lolagaylec.bsky.social) 2025-05-29T11:26:16.712Z



https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/05/28/trump-qatar-air-force-one/

Despite claims by the Defense Department to the contrary, legal teams representing the U.S. and Qatari governments have not finalized an agreement for transferring the luxury Boeing 747-8 jetliner that President Donald Trump wants for Air Force One amid outstanding requests by Qatar for Washington to clarify the transaction’s terms, said officials familiar with the matter.

Qatar is insisting that a memorandum of understanding between Washington and Doha specify that the aircraft’s transfer was initiated by the Trump administration and that Qatar is not responsible for any future transfers of the plane’s ownership, these people said.

The delay reflects lingering concerns about legal liability stemming from the White House maneuver to transform what was originally a sale between two countries into a “gift” that Trump continues to tout as a major deliverable from his recent trip to the Middle East....

Trump initially said it was Qatar that reached out and offered him the luxury jet free of charge. In fact, it was the Trump administration that first approached Qatar this winter about acquiring the plane through a sale after the president made clear to aides that he was upset about delays of two Boeing jets purchased during his first term for $3.9 billion, officials said. Discussion about the sale later evolved into Qatar agreeing to provide the plane as a gift, a development reported previously by CNN and the New York Times......

After Trump toured the jet, Air Force officials reviewed the aircraft and found that it was “very poorly maintained” and would require millions of dollars just to bring it up to satisfactory maintenance conditions, said one person familiar with the matter. The Air Force assessed then that there was no way the jet could ferry the president in its current state.

The Air Force estimated then that it could cost $1.5 billion to meet those requirements. To then remove the military gear and convert it for civilian use after Trump leaves office could cost an estimated $500 million, said two people familiar with the matter.

trump lied about Qatar offering to give him this plane. This is a pure bribe that will cost the US $2 billion ($1.5 billion to refurbish and $.5 billion to take military equipment out)

RobinA

(10,467 posts)
7. Nothing Says
Thu May 29, 2025, 11:19 AM
May 2025

"shithole nation" quite like running from door to door looking for a handout to use as Air Force 1.

DFW

(59,730 posts)
9. I couldn't get over Tommy Tubular trying to say what good economic sense it would make to take the gift of the plane
Thu May 29, 2025, 05:17 PM
May 2025

We have several others on order, and Tommy Tubular was going on about how much more sense it made to take a $400 million gift that it would to spend a billion on a plane from scratch. He conveniently ignores the fact that to make a plane used for 13 years by another nation would have to be stripped bare for listening and monitoring devices (all of which, our guys would almost certainly NOT find), a process which would take years and cost UPWARDS of a billion.

I guess it's no miracle that Tommy coached football, and did not teach engineering, electronics or arithmetic.

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